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Old 09-17-2005, 07:29 AM   #1
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I'm sorry, it's obviously Jesus in a can, because you're creaming yourself over it.

Wonder if you'll still have your cock out when the onvelty wears off.
How about you see the full picture before you start to say stupid fucking things like that in the first place.

Not creaming myself over it, but I can see the potential of it and you were obviously not seeing the whole fucking picture. So fuck off with your personal attacks when you haven't even got all the facts straight, or are just so stupid as to ignore them.
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How about you see the full picture before you start to say stupid fucking things like that in the first place.
Howabout this. Stop being an idiot fanboy, and I'll stop taking the opposing side.

I don't know how you fucktards don't notice this, but I've actually taken both sides on this issue in relation to the extremists. So sit down, shut up, stop being part of the problem, and I'll have less to react to. Sweet Jesus, y'all are fucking dense.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:46 PM   #3
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Just wait until you try it before you shit all over it. Just because it doesn't look like a regular controller, doesn't mean it'll suck. Fuck.
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Old 09-16-2005, 02:53 PM   #4
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The FPS contributions will be legendary. I don't see fighters doing as well. Racing games will be natural. WWE Day of Reckoning 3 will be VERY interesting.
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The FPS contributions will be legendary. I don't see fighters doing as well. Racing games will be natural. WWE Day of Reckoning 3 will be VERY interesting.
Switching from the analogue stick to the A+B was bad enough, but now you'll probably have to wiggle the remote...I mean controller...
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I like the idea of doing my own knife edge chops. Reaching for the ropes myself. Tagging my partner. That's the future of wrestling games, touching the wrestlers...
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^ What springs to mind is what kind of effect will "doing your own knife edge chops" have with parents nowadays?
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^ What springs to mind is what kind of effect will "doing your own knife edge chops" have with parents nowadays?

If they complain just hit them with a few chops of your own.
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We should've seen this coming! Nintendo's last couple of peripherals resulted in making us gamers look more like losers than the general population already labeled us. Using a 'stylus'? A 'bongo controller'? Screaming into a mike for Mario Party? They've been giving us clues for a while.
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Yes, because violence is the answer.


Didn't you learn anything in school?
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:36 PM   #11
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Didn't you learn anything in school?

I learned how to chop, and very effective it is too.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:30 PM   #12
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Umm, I dont see how that controller iwll do all that.

They should just release a 3d headset with some gloves if they want to do something awesome.
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I'm going to wait until it comes out to officially pass judgement, but I have this sinking feeling that this is going to be worse than the Virtual Boy.
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Old 09-16-2005, 03:41 PM   #14
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I tempted to see what happens with ports. If you'll need all new coding or if the system takes care of that itself. This isn't just a bad idea for players but this would cause developers to come up with a whole different product in order to get them to the Revolution. We all know how the 3rd party support is with Nintendo already, I'm afraid this could be one of the final blows.
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I saw someone post on gamefaqs that same N64 controller argument. Almost word for word.
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I saw someone post on gamefaqs that same N64 controller argument. Almost word for word.
Feck, I haven't been on Gamefaqs for days.
My thought process has become that bad?
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But I'm with you by saying this will be the goods.
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You're correct Jonster, I was too lazy to click the link. If I had some sort of remote I could have pointed at it with that could be used for Microsoft's browser it would have been so much easier and entertaining. But then again, I use a 3rd party browser. Does that mean I'd have to buy a whole new pointing device, such as a mouse, in order to get full features?
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You're correct Jonster, I was too lazy to click the link. If I had some sort of remote I could have pointed at it with that could be used for Microsoft's browser it would have been so much easier and entertaining. But then again, I use a 3rd party browser. Does that mean I'd have to buy a whole knew pointing device, such as a mouse, in order to get full features?
1) The italicized sentence makes no sense. However you already have a mouse to click it with.

2) I know what you're getting at with the rest of it, but you're being kinda silly with the 3rd party browser/mouse analogy. There are many types of keyboard and pointing devices for computers, however they all run through the same standards to work, and the software is designed with that in mind. Besides browser software isn't responsible for those types of inputs, it's handled by the operating system.

They haven't said whether or not the more traditional controller will be included with the console or not, but I would imagine so due to people seemingly fearing change.

3) Oh and it's new not knew.
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I think your best arguement in that whole post was the fact you corrected my grammer. I'm sorry the mistake was unable to get my point across, and I have fixed the mistake. You're right, the analogy sounds ridiculous, but so does the thought of having to have seperate controllers for different games.

How has Sony's EyeToy done? Not so well. So who is to say this is innovating. It's the same thing right? You use your movements to play the games.

The thing I don't understand is why you are taking this so personal. I stated in the first post that I haven't held one so I am not going to say it won't work, but my first impressions are unwanting. Sorry if I offended you. I also took extra precaution to have proper grammer in this post, as we all know the internet is not a place for mistakes.
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I think your best arguement in that whole post was the fact you corrected my grammer. I'm sorry the mistake was unable to get my point across, and I have fixed the mistake. You're right, the analogy sounds ridiculous, but so does the thought of having to have seperate controllers for different games.

How has Sony's EyeToy done? Not so well. So who is to say this is innovating. It's the same thing right? You use your movements to play the games.

The thing I don't understand is why you are taking this so personal. I stated in the first post that I haven't held one so I am not going to say it won't work, but my first impressions are unwanting. Sorry if I offended you. I also took extra precaution to have proper grammer in this post, as we all know the internet is not a place for mistakes.
I'm suprised you thought I took it personally, I didn't, you just put my name in the last post so I replied. Not offended in the slightest, just annoys me when people say things without all the facts (that have been put out there).

If the console comes with the traditional controller, the remote and the analogue expansion, then that's all you'll need right there. The traditional controller will have an analogue stick on it and the remote fits into it, so could still be used for anything that needs it.
Anything that needs more would be released with the game if need be. The Eyetoy was still a standard price game, even with the extra hardware needed to use it.

You're right that it's similiar to the Eyetoy in that it uses movement to play games, but the eyetoy only recognises movement and was a pain to use if you weren't against a plainish background, the Revolution controller recognises position and movement in 3D. And I can instantly think that the latter will have more uses than jumping around in front of a camera.


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I think your best arguement in that whole post was the fact you corrected my grammer. I'm sorry the mistake was unable to get my point across, and I have fixed the mistake. You're right, the analogy sounds ridiculous, but so does the thought of having to have seperate controllers for different games.

How has Sony's EyeToy done? Not so well. So who is to say this is innovating. It's the same thing right? You use your movements to play the games.

The thing I don't understand is why you are taking this so personal. I stated in the first post that I haven't held one so I am not going to say it won't work, but my first impressions are unwanting. Sorry if I offended you. I also took extra precaution to have proper grammer in this post, as we all know the internet is not a place for mistakes.
In the interest of fairness...

Don't we have "light guns?" DDR mats (Which started iwth the NES)? Headsets? Keyboards? Don't we already have "separate controllers?"
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In the interest of fairness...

Don't we have "light guns?" DDR mats (Which started iwth the NES)? Headsets? Keyboards? Don't we already have "separate controllers?"
I give you the DDR mats but the others aren't needed. But you're right. The docking case will be nice, I just don't see why they wouldn't go straight to that and put the sensors on it.
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Old 09-17-2005, 02:17 AM   #31
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I give you the DDR mats but the others aren't needed. But you're right. The docking case will be nice, I just don't see why they wouldn't go straight to that and put the sensors on it.
None of them are "needed," unless you want to play specific games. The thign is, there's a history of this stuff (I forgot a few, such as the SNES' mouse), whether it's necessary or not. Or even if we like 'em.

I think the idea of sliding the remote into the Rev controller is dumb, but it's better than nothing.

I just hope they support this better than the NDS. Hate to say it, but the only bad thing I can say about the DS is the lack of fucking GAMES.
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:53 PM   #32
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Also, what about carpal tunnel syndrome? Do they have that in Japan or are they in for a surprise when it's released?

I wonder if they gave this to a focus group as well and if it actually passed. I hope there isn't a website that answers all these common questions, that I just happen to have as well, that I'm missing.
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:59 PM   #33
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Also, what about carpal tunnel syndrome? Do they have that in Japan or are they in for a surprise when it's released?

I wonder if they gave this to a focus group as well and if it actually passed. I hope there isn't a website that answers all these common questions, that I just happen to have as well, that I'm missing.
It's my understanding that people with carpal tunnel syndrome may have trouble playing video games anyway.
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I didn't say anything about spelling.

I meant that this could cause carpal tunnel with the constant wrist flicking and movement. After watching the conference and the video they played, I believe they are going to be using the controller for the next Mario game and we all know how much you have to jump in a Mario game.

Again, I haven't tried it so I don't know how it will feel, but there seems to be a lot of concern from all types of gamers.
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It seems to me like this is a truly terrible idea. I bet no-one has ever picked up their remote and gone "wow if this was a controller it would be great". If anyone has been on one of those airplanes with games in the headsets then you'll also have some experience. Basically its a phone (practically same shape as a remote) and a controller in one. And its shit. But you know you're stuck on a 12hr flight and its free so you don't care.

Also all this "movement is great" idea is a bit rubbish. Eyetoys as mentioned have proven to be temperamental at best. EVEN IF movement is improved why go down such a shitty shaped route. The technology could have been put into a conventional shaped controller. WIN WIN. Why does it NEED to be this awful shape.
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Old 09-16-2005, 09:21 PM   #36
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I can't wait until the Revolution comes out.
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when DOES it come out? All this controller talk and the thought never even occured to me.
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Not for a while. They said that if you go to E3 and you don't play a Revolution game then it's they would be surprised. So they will at least have playable versions by summer next year. Maybe around this time next year or so.
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It's definantly going to be the last one released. Sucks I know.
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