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View Poll Results: Jerichos return sucks yay or nay? (yay means it sucks, btw)
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:34 PM   #81
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You've never seen the best of 7 Booker/Benoit had in WCW? That shit is legendary.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:36 PM   #82
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Flair/HBK > MVP > Monty Brown > Chris Jericho > Jushin Liger > Booker T > Most everything else > Sand in your eyes > Swift kick in the groin > Kennedy > Teddy Hart > Carlito
Liger and Booker are interchangeable.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:37 PM   #83
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Flair/HBK > Vader >Jushin Liger > MVP > Monty Brown > Chris Jericho > Most everything else > Sand in your eyes > Swift kick in the groin > Kennedy > Teddy Hart > Carlito

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Old 12-04-2007, 03:37 PM   #84
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:37 PM   #85
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You've never seen the best of 7 Booker/Benoit had in WCW? That shit is legendary.



Some of the best stuff ever, IMO.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:40 PM   #86
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You've never seen the best of 7 Booker/Benoit had in WCW? That shit is legendary.
I recall see a match or 2. I just was a dumb mark at the time and was WWF all the way for what that was worth. I don't recall any of it besides Booker's box hair cut and Benoit was wearing the tights with that wierd diamond gooch.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:43 PM   #87
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Ok, here it is:

HBK/Flair > Taz > doesn't matter after Taz.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:47 PM   #88
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HBK/Flair > Taz > Doesn't matter after Taz.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:15 PM   #89
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I'm really reticent to comment on this, because no doubt someone will try and simply peg me as wanting Jericho to fail, despite statements to the contrary.

But yeah, It's seemed pretty lackluster from the beginning, and it's already getting weaker. I was more interested in Jericho last week, and I don't care who you are, a slow start only works as an argument if things get better. Really, the high point so far has been his return, and even that seemed lackluster.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:46 PM   #90
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I'm a HUGE Jericho mark! Have been since 1998 with him in WCW. Only man who I've owned 2 t-shirts for and even have been considering to buy the Save_Us.222 shirt. Can't say there is anyone I like more than him...but his return is lack lustered.

It was driving to school today that I actually thought about this a little, and how much it annoys me that everyone has been taking the piss out of him since the return. I tried to think of a way to argue it out in my head...but couldn't. Most naysayers have been right about Jericho, but can't say he hasn't been trying.

His return to wrestling reminds me of Christian's coming to TNA. They came in trying too hard to be top dog, and looked quite dull and boring in the process. However, after awhile he got back on track and pretty much is back on the ball. I think that will be the same for Jericho, where he will eventually find his groove. As said by others, people like Ric Flair (and Shawn Michaels) are rare...can't really be compaired to that level. They have natural charisma, and while Jericho has some himself, a great deal of his mic skills I think is self trained and he'll probably have to start picking up on what the fans want to see before he changed the current path.

Also I have to blame WWE too for right now as well. Even before his return, people on this forum have been stating that a return right to the main event is stupid and I agree. Could have placed him in so many spots besides the World Championship. One for instance is Regal, current GM of Raw and long time nemesis of Chris Jericho. Restarting that feud could have been gold, and the whole save_us.222 thing could have been saving WWE from corporate or something. Or there is a number of people coming up like Morella who he could have had a program with. He didn't need to be rushed to the top...Jeff could have easily been plugged in there (I don't see him winning the title any time soon anyway, but the feud may have been nice for something before the Rumble).
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:47 PM   #91
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You know, maybe it is my fault. Maybe I was expecting to much too soon. I promise, as long as it isn't flat out god awful, next week I won't bitch and moan because Jericho isn't saving us yet.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:50 PM   #92
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I'm a HUGE Jericho mark! Have been since 1998 with him in WCW. Only man who I've owned 2 t-shirts for and even have been considering to buy the Save_Us.222 shirt. Can't say there is anyone I like more than him...but his return is lack lustered.

It was driving to school today that I actually thought about this a little, and how much it annoys me that everyone has been taking the piss out of him since the return. I tried to think of a way to argue it out in my head...but couldn't. Most naysayers have been right about Jericho, but can't say he hasn't been trying.

His return to wrestling reminds me of Christian's coming to TNA. They came in trying too hard to be top dog, and looked quite dull and boring in the process. However, after awhile he got back on track and pretty much is back on the ball. I think that will be the same for Jericho, where he will eventually find his groove. As said by others, people like Ric Flair (and Shawn Michaels) are rare...can't really be compaired to that level. They have natural charisma, and while Jericho has some himself, a great deal of his mic skills I think is self trained and he'll probably have to start picking up on what the fans want to see before he changed the current path.

Also I have to blame WWE too for right now as well. Even before his return, people on this forum have been stating that a return right to the main event is stupid and I agree. Could have placed him in so many spots besides the World Championship. One for instance is Regal, current GM of Raw and long time nemesis of Chris Jericho. Restarting that feud could have been gold, and the whole save_us.222 thing could have been saving WWE from corporate or something. Or there is a number of people coming up like Morella who he could have had a program with. He didn't need to be rushed to the top...Jeff could have easily been plugged in there (I don't see him winning the title any time soon anyway, but the feud may have been nice for something before the Rumble).
Jericho needed to stalk Randy longer or just shown up on Cyber Sunday and beat the shit out of Randy and taken the title there.
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:37 PM   #93
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:49 PM   #94
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I've thought about it. There is a fairly simple thing they should have done which would have made the whole return better and not seemed slapped together.

When Orton asked what are you saving us from, Jericho shouldn't have said you, but instead said from wrestling itself or from yourselves or something to that effect. Then say he is starting by taking out Orton because Orton represents all that is wrong.

Because as of this moment, if Jericho wins the belt and beats Orton he is done, there is nothing more to save us from because he finished saving us from Orton. If Jericho loses then he will look like a impotent tool.

Now, if he did what I suggested, he would have options. If he loses to Orton, then he turns on the crowd saying they are the real problem and he could be his cockyself or something. Or he could say the problem is bigger than Orton, and it is the rules that play into Orton's favor and seek to change those and keep coming back. If Jericho using my method, that is just the first step. Sure he beat Orton, but the problem still exist and he could go about solving the problem with a pretty title around his waist.

It is something so fucking small and simple that would make this whole thing 20 times better.
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:11 PM   #95
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it was poorly put together. You would think with all those video packages, he would come back and be the Sting of 97, but it's been shit. He gets put in mid card matches, his promos are decent, but nothing special and he's not even getting that big of pops as he should be. I don't know, he's nothing then your average upper mid card guy right now. He's showed he can be tremendous on the mic in the past, but i have yet to see it. Santino's promo against him was 10x better that Raw.

so to some it up, it's been very lackluster thus far.
Gotta agree with LC. After the huge build-up, his return has failed to grab the fans - that's gotta be WWE's fault. I still think it may turn into something good (or maybe I'm being too optimistic).

For me, it's not "Yay" or "Nay" (yet) so it has to be LC.
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