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Old 09-24-2009, 09:14 AM   #81
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It's just a rumour, I don't know if it's true or not. But considering Kimbo got his ass handed to him my both Seth Petruzelli and James Thompson up until he got that lucky ass stoppage, I dunno, I have to say a true badass like Roy Nelson is gonna have his way with him.
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no chance Kimbo wins unless Dana White pays Nelson to go down.
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It's just a rumour, I don't know if it's true or not. But considering Kimbo got his ass handed to him my both Seth Petruzelli and James Thompson up until he got that lucky ass stoppage, I dunno, I have to say a true badass like Roy Nelson is gonna have his way with him.
Someone on here was stating he has been doing a lot of training since then.
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Nobody said anything about his knockout power jackass. You stated that he has had 6 KO's which is false, as he has only had 1. Thanks for the new word though. Testimate lmao. Oh and I see you figured out that edit function too. Way to go kiddo.
way to read all the posts in the thread dumbass
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:19 AM   #85
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any link to the second episode btw?
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Someone on here was stating he has been doing a lot of training since then.
A solid fighter, even under trained, does not look like a fish out of water against c level fighters.

It'd be nice to see him do well, I'll just believe it when i see it.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:32 AM   #87
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he'll probably lose and get a second chance in the tournament or something
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i imagine if he fucks it up this time he'll be back next time theres a heavyweight TUF. dana would probably pay the guy to go train with the best in everything everywhere, just because the guy is worth that much to him businesswise.
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I thought Shivers won that fight. The first round was a toss-up, but the second should have went to Shivers. I think what lost him the fight was a lack of octagon control, not taking the fight to the other guy and his mid-round rest breaks.

But in terms of fighting, I think he hurt McSweeney more than McSweeney hurt him.
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I think the first round was no question shivers and the second was a tossup
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IM CALLING IT RIGHT NOW!!!


Kimbo loses to roy. Someone gets injured or cant fight for some reason, and kimbo steps in to take his place.
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Old 09-24-2009, 05:24 PM   #92
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Wow my bad I phrased my sentence wrong. I never said anything about his KO power before you attacked me for proving you wrong.(I mean how hard is it to read a wikipedia page?) And if you wanna keep up the personal attacks I can do that all day you chicken dick fuck wad lol.
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well considering wikipedia is not factual information most of the time because it is edited by the users of the site, forgive me if i dont read that bull shit.

The only difference between a KO and a TKO is how quickly the ref steps in. So theyre really not that different are they? And considering the point I was making, before you decided to poke your ass into the picture, I was right to count the two as the same. Especially considering any site that keeps stats on fighters (sherdog, mmafighter, etc)groups them the same as well (not really too hard too look at one of those?).

But if you want to be an incoherent n00b and troll the forums then please be my guest.
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Wow my bad I phrased my sentence wrong. I never said anything about his KO power before you attacked me for proving you wrong.(I mean how hard is it to read a wikipedia page?) And if you wanna keep up the personal attacks I can do that all day you chicken dick fuck wad lol.
dude, shut up. you have like 17 posts here.
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whos sock is he?... he fires back like fabien but he gave me shit on a post where I was correcting krispy. Id say it could be krispy but me and him like eachother. spelling errors and debating the precise definition of a word is not rob's style and rob is too smart to reference wikipedia. so whos sock are you mcnasty???
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:18 PM   #97
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Im hoping Kimbo makes it past next episode...cuz lets be honest, we're all really watching this for Kimbo now that Rampage and Rashad arent even going to duke it out.
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I still don't see how you can class a TKO and a KO as the same thing. They are not! The simple fact that a TKO can be awarded if a fighter receives a cut and the ref decides the fighter is unfit to continue should tell you that. I'm going to count you as being retarded if you keep that argument up.

Wikipedia might be questionable about some of its facts, but was it wrong this time about Roy's record? No. So I don't see how you corrected Krispy in the first place when he was right all along, and you where wrong.

Why am I a sock? Because I called you out for making a stupid statement, and trying to pass it off as a fact?

Oh and Loose Cannon hop off my nuts kid. Nobody is talking to you.
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Theres a reason why stats classify them in the same category. While TKO does encompas cuts, fighters unable to finish, etc. it also includes when fighters are out and taking shots and the ref has to stop the fight. Did you catch that? The fighter is out... taking shots... and the ref steps in to stop it. Now this happens a lot when the ref isnt fast enough to catch it or when the fighter is completely out but their bodies are still moving (in a way that doesnt make sense because their cognitivly unconscious). But theyre still out.

Now if you look back to the whole reason we;re talking about this anyway, Krispy was discrediting Roys punching power when he had 6 victories via KO/TKO with those TKOs being the result of punches which means the fighters were out. Which would tell Krispy that Roy has power because to put people out you need power.
But if you think its just me saying this or that "im crazy" heres the stats exactly how you see them at sherdog.

Name: Roy Nelson
Nick Name: Big Country

Record: 13 - 4 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)

Wins: 6 (T)KOs ( 46.15 %)
4 Submissions ( 30.77 %)
3 Decisions ( 23.08 %)

Losses: 1 (T)KOs ( 25 %)
3 Decisions ( 75 %)

Weight: 249lbs (113kg)
Birth Date: 1976-06-20
City: Las Vegas
Country: USA


Oh and the reason you are a sock is because you know whats going on around here and because 17 posts into your time here your already combative instead of getting acclimated to the people in the forum. That tells me youve been through that all before and you want to either come in and show off a shittier side of your personality because your a coward and you want everyone to like you with your other name,or you have been banned and this is the way your coming back. Not to mention you have a gimmick user name.

Of course maybe you really are new here and you developed your personality in a car crash and this is how you are in real life with the people around you. Which if you are new here Id have to say Id classify YOU as retarded because Loose Cannon is the MOD here and you just told him off.
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I get what you're saying, but there IS a difference between a Technical Knockout (TKO), and a Knock Out.

Technical Knockouts can be had by a referee looking in the best interests of the opposing combatant.

But, it still is proof that he has power.

If Kimbo loses, I won't watch this show anymore, I'm calling it now. No point without Kimbo. Why spend so much effort pumping it, and hyping it down my throat if Kimbo doesn't do well?

I don't care about any of these has beens, or never will be's. Kimbo is why they're getting my ratings.
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u realize he could come back into the show if he loses?
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Why they may be similar their still not the same are they? You would've been correct in saying "Yeah he has 1 KO but he also has 5 TKO's due to him pummeling someone with his fists" but you went with ignoring the differences and classified them as the same exact thing. If your going to list sherdog as a source for why they are one in the same, I ask you to look at how the UFC lists the stats of their fighters.

A TKO can also be called when a fighter isn't intelligently defending themselves. That doesn't really show the stopping power of the fighter dealing the damage, only the inability of the fighter receiving the shots to deal with it. That could be due to poor training, him panicking, or a number of factors. Or the ref seeing that he will be out soon, but that isn't always the case.

I'm curious to know what I said that makes me look like I know what is going on here. The fact I wasn't shy to correct you on your erroneous statement, or advise you to use an edit feature when you had three posts back to back maybe? What a sock of me to know how to use a simple internet messaging board function.

Also if you worded your posts better than simply trying to correct someone with a one liner, maybe I would know what your getting at. But instead of trying to prove a point with your post, you tried to discredit someone by stating they made a false statement. Which is ironic because they didn't at all, but you clearly did.

Loose Cannon may be a mod, but he was jumping in on our discussion just to basically call me a noob. Nothing else. No adding to the argument, no providing another viewpoint. How else should I react?
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Speaking of jumping into someone elses conversation... Anyway, after you decided to enter the conversation, i went on to tell you "what i was getting at" which was a point that krispy would have figured out without you.

I am aware of all the different types of finishes that are under the TKO umbrella ( I mentioned some in my last post) and good for you, you were able to throw some out too! Just for shits and giggles I went to the UFC website and looked at the stats. For example when lesnar "TKOed" Couture, it was clear that he had Randy at one point in time unconscious OR when Jardine "TKOed" Forrest, and the ref let forrest's head bounce off the canvas 3 or 4 times before he stopped it (forrest was out). All the while all those finishes came from a big punch putting them down, which is how Roy does it.

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FLCL is amazing, but I'm sure you already know that. Trigun is pretty good, and I've heard they are making a movie soon.

Besides the ones on your list though, I would suggest Spirited Away. Pretty good anime film, with some interesting characters.
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That doesn't sound like someone with 5 posts to their name.

hmmmm im not the only one to see something wrong here.

but seriously dude shut the fuck up. Just stick to modern warfare jacking it to anime and wishing you were a fighter.
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I wasn't referring to how the UFC decides what exactly is a TKO. Just the simple fact that they don't consider a TKO and a KO to be the same thing.

Dude do you realize your arguing with me for something I've never said lmao. I've never once said that a TKO can't be a testimate to someone's KO power. I've simply argued that a TKO and a KO are not the same thing. Which really shouldn't be that hard to understand. Geesh.

Like I said earlier if you had worded your original post better, showing what you where trying to say, instead of claiming Roy had 6 KO's to his name when he clearly doesn't. We wouldn't be arguing right now. But you didn't do that. Instead you chose to get all butt hurt when I corrected you, and began hurling silly insults my way.

About that post of mine you quoted. What can I say I dislike stupidity. But if you wanna keep being paranoid that is your business. I could also go through your posts, and dog you about anything you've ever commented about, but I don't find you that interesting really. Sorry.
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It's not me, Reav. Kris P Lettus is my Sock account.

All I can think about with Kimbo, is he has done TV interviews in the last few weeks promoting TUF, and I believe the entire series was in the can by then... Would he be doing this if he got beaten in the first round?
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Now im positive hes a sock... and from the UK...


Fabien, I think someone isnt going to be able to fight and then hes going to come back after his first loss. Happens every season, and... Matt Mitrione (the heavywweight tha played for the jets) has been at Overtime for the last few weeks and he runs his mouth a lot. And he hinted towards what Im saying.
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A friend of mine told me that Kimbo goes the distance. Then I also hear that he gets killed in his first fight.

It all means fuck all and is all speculation. We will know when the show goes on the air.
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I have a feeling Kimbo will never be knocked out because his beard will absorb all punches.
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A friend of mine told me that Kimbo goes the distance. Then I also hear that he gets killed in his first fight.

It all means fuck all and is all speculation. We will know when the show goes on the air.
he could get killed his first fight and still go the distance
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True. Wanna speculate together for a bit?
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kimbo might have a massive underbite but his beard hides it, so nobody ever hits his chin
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I think that he wins!
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u realize he could come back into the show if he loses?
Yeah, but it wouldn't be the same. It would negate all the hype. Why watch a "beast" fight if the last two fights he's had, he's gotten his ass kicked?

Kind of hurts his credibility.

Even though, everyone loses at some point, I want to see Kimbo Smash.
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Oh Man, that sneak peak, mays Roy look like a fat slob. He was even getting his ass kicked in training if you watch it.

I wonder if Kimbo has been training hard before TUF.
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I think he beats brock
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Yeah, but it wouldn't be the same. It would negate all the hype. Why watch a "beast" fight if the last two fights he's had, he's gotten his ass kicked?

Kind of hurts his credibility.

Even though, everyone loses at some point, I want to see Kimbo Smash.
Hes fighting the best guy on the show first fight.... him losing hurts nothing
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