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Old 12-16-2009, 09:55 PM   #81
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I'm sensing HBK/Taker 2 at Mania, only this time, Bret screws HBK out of breaking the streak.
but bret had a stroke and cant wrestle so why?
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:56 PM   #82
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but bret had a stroke and cant wrestle so why?
I don't know. He can either send DH Smith or Tyson Kidd as a surrogate. Kidd vs Michaels would be a great match, similar to what Michaels had with Benjamin a couple of years ago.
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I still think it's interesting how the most knowledgeable posters on this forum (i.e. Loose Cannon, Rob, Zen v.W.o., 91 from back in the day, and The CyNick from back in the day) ALL AGREE that Bret Hart was a bigger star than Shawn Michaels.

Very interesting to say the very least.

Posters on here should take note of that.
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I don't know. He can either send DH Smith or Tyson Kidd as a surrogate. Kidd vs Michaels would be a great match, similar to what Michaels had with Benjamin a couple of years ago.
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Wait for it... wait for it...
This still is irrelevant do my interests.
I have gotten over a wrestler who I have not seen in action in over 10 years. I respect him, and seeing him as a potential guest host will be a great change of pace from all of the non-wrestling personas we have seen as guest hosts.
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Benoit's death was a much bigger story and sent shockwaves through the industry. Nothing like the Screwjob did.
yea. i'd turn RAW on if news that Benoit has signed a contract
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:07 PM   #91
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The Screwjob is huge for fans and insiders, but nobody else knows about it or ever gave a fuck. The Benoit story made a much bigger splash both in and out of the wrestling industry. Particularly the latter.
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Old 12-16-2009, 11:19 PM   #92
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Well maybe this can end WWE doing the screwjob every 6 months
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Pretty psyched about this.

I just wonder what type of role he will be in.

Hopefully more than just a manager for the Next Generation Hart Foundation.
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i dont think this has any truth to it. If it did vince would have kept it quiet and just dropped hints all the way.

If it is true and they go the guest host route it will be dissappointing. The need to turn DX heel first , have them align with Mr Mcmohan and beat the piss out of the hart dynasty for a few weeks to warrant the return of bret hart. Him just showinh up to guest host is pretty meh
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There were also rumors of the Rock showing up on the 1/4 Raw too. If he and Bret both get announced for Raw that week TNA isn't going to have a chance.
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If this is true .... fuck yesssssssss
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if anything, they could so capitalize on Bret's on camera interaction with Vince. Doesn't even have to be Bret having anything to do with HBK, or even wrestling because it is well known that Bret can't physically wrestle anymore. Bret simply being face to face with Vince in the center of the ring live on RAW would be electric.

If this is true, just glancing at WWE's live event schedule, there is no RAW booked for the Monday before Wrestlemania 26. If they were smart......

Put RAW in Montreal.
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This news is quite shocking, and I am excited to see how this develops!
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They'll announce 1/4 as a special guest host.

Beginning of the show, the host still won't be there. About halfway, Vince will probably be pulling some bullshit.

All of a sudden...

"Do you smell what the Rock is cookin'?" will blare over the PA system, crushing all your little hearts.

And, either one of the following will happen...

A.) Rock will come out, clear the ring, and be face-to-face with Vince McMahon. When all of a sudden, Bret will come out and turn complete heel and beat the Rock down.

B). The Rock will come out, and host the show. Then, as CWK so thoughtfully mentioned, they will announce the RAW after 'Mania being in Montreal.

Either way, they'd get your ratings by baiting you in.
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Awesome news. I will definitely be tuning in for the return of the Hitman. What's interesting is that I'm already having trouble deciding which to watch, TNA's Monday night debut or Bret Hart's return to RAW. One can only hope that the new decade has more of this in store; feels like the good old days.
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is it me or is it ridiculously stupid they would let something like this leak when the surprise factor could make it one of the most memorable angles of all time.
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is it me or is it ridiculously stupid they would let something like this leak when the surprise factor could make it one of the most memorable angles of all time.
I think they are at the stage where they have to leak stuff to generate interest especially if it is a direct counter to the TNA/Hulk Hogan thing.
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It will either be epic or a real letdown. Expectations will be high so I tend to think it will be a letdown for most people. If they get a good storyline out of this, I'll be interested because I can't remember the last one that grabbed my attention.
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Awesome news!

Although id like to thank TNA for lighting a fire under Vinces ass. He's needed that.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:29 AM   #112
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I may actually watch raw now. TNA I was rooting for you but you cannot compete with the Hitman. Hogan, you said if you fail you'll pack your bags...don't the door hit you on your plastic hip on the way out.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:32 AM   #113
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Call me crazy, but I don't see Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels in the ring at the same time. If indeed, Bret will be on Raw, I see it going like this:

Bret Hart comes out, gives a speech about how he and Vince McMahon have had a checkered past, they've had their differences, but let bygones be bygones. He says he's glad to be in a WWE ring again, in front of all his WWE fans, on the 1st Raw of the New Year.

He announces, to kick the New Year off right, we're gonna have a title match. DX will defend the unified titles against Jericho and Big Show.

Sometime during Raw, we get obligatory Santino Marello, Chavo Guerro, Hornswoggle, Jillian singing some Celine Dion for Bret since he's Canadian, Bella Twins, Chris Jericho glad to see Bret, a fellow Canadian, because maybe he'll finally get some respect/appreciation, Randy Orton claiming there's a conspiracy to keep the title off of him.

Bret Hart comes out to do commentary for the Tag Team Title Match. Sometime during the match, Jericho has Shawn Michaels in the Walls of Jericho. Before Shawn has given up and is ready to reverse it, Bret Hart calls for the bell to ring, thus screwing Shawn out of the tag team titles. Bret, Jericho, and Big Show walk up the ramp and when they get to the top Bret has a big smile on his face as Raw goes off the air.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:43 AM   #114
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If theres not another Bret DVD set I dont care.

I hope Vince screws him over again and he goes whining to TNA.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:56 AM   #115
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I think they are at the stage where they have to leak stuff to generate interest especially if it is a direct counter to the TNA/Hulk Hogan thing.
i think it'd be worth like not guarenteeing viewers on the night for nailing them for repeats or just generating future interest though. i mean it's kind of like buying a book and turning to the back page, for me. like it's the sort of thing people can discuss and turn someone else onto it, yet if you know about it before hand it kills the surprise and all the emotion that entails.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:56 AM   #116
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I guess it depends how Bret is brought in, the disposition of his character and his current condition. I'm going to have to assume that he still can't wrestle.

Face route

McMahon comes to the ring as a heel

He tells the world that money makes the world go round blah blah blah

He brings out Bret

Bret calls out Michaels

Bret talks about 97 and that it needs to be buried and left behind. At the end of the promo, Bret asks Michaels to shake his hand if he agrees. Michaels takes his hand. Bret asks for a favour from Michaels, for old times sake DX versus Hart Dynasy for the tag titles. Michaels agrees.

McMahon is bemused by it all and Bret turns to McMahon demanding an apology for 97. McMahon refuses. Bret says ok but he's the GM so tonight McMahon will kiss The Hitman's ass. The Hart Dynasty can help with this making McMahon do it.

McMahon is livid afterwards.

Tag title match can be a close encounter with a ref bump. McMahon comes down to the ring and some screwjob ending occurs with DX coming out on top. DX can fake not knowing what is going on but then shake McMahon's hand and lay a beat down on the Hart Dynasty leaving Bret seething at the end of Raw or DX's involvement in the screwjob can be dragged out over a few weeks.

The payoff would be some PPV tag team title match with Bret in one corner and McMahon in another.

Heel route

I guess it would centre around Bret wanting to get rid of the 'cancer' of WWE, DX who after all these years still make him sick to his stomach.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:57 AM   #117
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:57 AM   #118
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i think it'd be worth like not guarenteeing viewers on the night for nailing them for repeats or just generating future interest though. i mean it's kind of like buying a book and turning to the back page, for me. like it's the sort of thing people can discuss and turn someone else onto it, yet if you know about it before hand it kills the surprise and all the emotion that entails.
Yeah I agree, this was the cool thing about the Monday night wars - this kinda thing did happen and it was amazing to watch but I think I am right in saying that the surprise factor has been sucked out of wrestling over the years.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:00 AM   #119
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Bret can't wrestle. He'd be stupid to consider it.

BUT... a brawl where he doesn't take a single bump? A complete squash where he just beats someone up and barely takes a lick the entire match?

I'm calling Bret Hart vs Vince McMahon in a Street Fight at WrestleMania, and just hope enough old school viewers remain for the audience to care about it. If this had happened 5-10 years ago, that may well have been a monster buyrate. In 2010, I'm not so sure.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:00 AM   #120
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Yes unfortunately. It's all about guaranteed ratings now.
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