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Old 05-19-2010, 01:58 AM   #1241
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:01 AM   #1242
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So we are like 2 weeks behind in the U.K?

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Old 05-19-2010, 02:01 AM   #1243
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So now my question is what or who was the mother protecting the light from in the first place because there was no Smoke Monster. Was thier some other "evil?" ugh

I think it was just protecting it from anyone. That includes the ancients, Dharma, and of course the MIB.
MIB became the monster, but he wasn't really a threat until he killed Jacob. He couldn't hurt Jacob and Jacob was there to protect against him.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:07 AM   #1244
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What a horrible ending for Richard
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:07 AM   #1245
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Amazing episode. Loved Ben and Desmond throughout.

So like, did Richard die or what?
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:21 AM   #1246
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I don't think Richard is dead. Jack will probably release him from his "life forever" thing in the finale.

What I want to know is where Miles got off to. Thought he went into the closet with Widmore.
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:25 AM   #1247
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Miles "took his chances running through the jungle". I wonder what part he's going to play in the finale, seems kind of like the odd one out in all of this.

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Old 05-19-2010, 07:52 AM   #1248
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"He doesn't get to save his daughter."
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:08 AM   #1249
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"He doesn't get to save his daughter."
Im glad they wrapped up the Ben-Widmore storyline like they did. Ben absolutely took advantage of the situation in (Michael Cole alert) VINTAGE Ben fashion.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:56 AM   #1250
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So we are like 2 weeks behind in the U.K?

Fuck, I need torrents.
You might be, but we're not.

The ep shown in the US on a Tuesday night is shown a Friday, so last's night episode will be on this coming Friday. The finale is on Sunday in the US and will be shown on the usual Friday slot over here.

All in all, the UK has been 3 days behind the entire series.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:06 AM   #1251
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So we found out why Kate's (and Claire's for that matter) name was crossed out.

Also that Jin was the remaining candidate which in turn is probably why Sun didnt flash back till the 70's with the Ajira people.

My take on Ben's comment regarding summoning the smoke monster ("I realized he was summoning me"): I think by summoning the monster, you are doing exactly as he wants: Kill people, destroy, etc. etc.

This goes back to my theory that MiB came to the ancients on the Island as a God and had them build these temples. He manipulated them into doing exactly what Jacob was hoping they wouldnt.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:16 AM   #1252
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The ancients were the ones who built the statue, as well as the chamber that housed the frozen wheel, also the underground chamber where MIB 'judged' Ben. There are hieroglyphs that show they worshipped smokey like a god.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:19 AM   #1253
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The ancients were the ones who built the statue, as well as the chamber that housed the frozen wheel, also the underground chamber where MIB 'judged' Ben. There are hieroglyphs that show they worshipped smokey like a god.
Yes I know. I shouldnt have called it my theory, but this is what I mean. Basically Smokey used them to do his bidding.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:59 AM   #1254
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Richard cant die no matter what right? Like he cant be murdered?
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:15 PM   #1255
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Richard cant die no matter what right? Like he cant be murdered?
thats what I am thinking. He will show up to save the day...maybe miles helps him...and then he will be wrapped up. IF thye dont mention his death I assume he is alive.

I wish we could have learned more about Widmore before he went.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:52 PM   #1256
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What's the deal with the alt-timeline concert anyway? Seems they will all be there, except Sawyer and Miles but including Dogen of all people.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:12 PM   #1258
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What's the deal with the alt-timeline concert anyway? Seems they will all be there, except Sawyer and Miles but including Dogen of all people.
I got a feeling Desmond will make a call to Sawyer and Miles regarding Kate and Sayid's whereabouts at the concert and that's how they will make it there.

Also, let's not forget Juliet will be there!!
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:21 PM   #1259
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Care to refresh me why Juliet will be there?
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:22 PM   #1260
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The general theory going around is that Juliet is going to be the mother of David (Jacks Son)
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:27 PM   #1261
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Aha, I was wondering if they will reveal the mom to be someone from the actual island storyline and Juliet makes perfect sense.
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Old 05-19-2010, 02:32 PM   #1262
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I'm kinda interested because Miles 'spoke' to her and she told him it worked, the bomb. Just makes me think she is special like Desmond kinda, but they prob won't go that way regardless.
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:07 PM   #1263
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They got something like 1.5 hours of tv time at max, and I doubt they will pull in so much detail in there.
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I know.

I'm not going to judge until the end, but I don't see it ending on too many explanations, I dunno we'll see soon enough I guess.

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Old 05-19-2010, 03:23 PM   #1265
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I got a feeling Desmond will make a call to Sawyer and Miles regarding Kate and Sayid's whereabouts at the concert and that's how they will make it there.

Also, let's not forget Juliet will be there!!
Actually, Miles said he WOULD be at the concert during last night's episode. Remember he was putting on a tie in the police station and then Sawyer asked him if "the red head" would be there?
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Old 05-19-2010, 03:28 PM   #1266
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Miles said he will be there....His dad works at the museum with Charlotte. SDawyaer will go with Miles or to see Charlotte.

Daniel Faraday and Jacks son are playing there. Jack will bring Claire.

Penny will be a guest with perhaps charlie also playing.

Kate, Sayid, Hurley and Desmond will be there.

The question is, how do the Kwons, Locke and Ben fit in.
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Well Charlie was supposed to be playing with Daniel that night, maybe he will show up.
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So I'm a bit more clear on MIB's endgame. His primary goal has been to get off the island all along. He's like a prisoner there.
Killing MIB was for revenge, and so he could get away.
Obviously...bear with me.

But then he had to kill the candidates to be free, so he cooked up the plane/sub idea. I think it's safe to say that was never an option, since if he could sneak off so easily he'd have done it.
He just wanted to kill them.

So he wants to leave, plain and simple. I assume that Jacob's line about them having to protect the light from them is either a secondary thing, or part of how he intends to actually leave the island.
That's what caused confusion a bit. I figured "wait, if he's trying to leave why the hell is Jacob worried about them protecting the light from him. Wouldn't they just have to keep him there?" I guess it's a bit of both.

Either way, I think now that he realizes Jacob/Whidmore/The Candidates have something up their sleeve to keep him from leaving, he's had it and just wants to destroy the whole fucking place to spite everyone and gain his "freedom" that way.
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Miles said he will be there....His dad works at the museum with Charlotte. SDawyaer will go with Miles or to see Charlotte.

Daniel Faraday and Jacks son are playing there. Jack will bring Claire.

Penny will be a guest with perhaps charlie also playing.

Kate, Sayid, Hurley and Desmond will be there.

The question is, how do the Kwons, Locke and Ben fit in.

Don't forget about Christian's body. I don't think having it be misplaced by the airline was for nothing, and they finally brought that back up last night. They called Jack to tell him it had been found.
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Don't forget about Christian's body. I don't think having it be misplaced by the airline was for nothing, and they finally brought that back up last night. They called Jack to tell him it had been found.
No they didnt.....Desmond did....
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Miles said he will be there....His dad works at the museum with Charlotte. SDawyaer will go with Miles or to see Charlotte.

Daniel Faraday and Jacks son are playing there. Jack will bring Claire.

Penny will be a guest with perhaps charlie also playing.

Kate, Sayid, Hurley and Desmond will be there.

The question is, how do the Kwons, Locke and Ben fit in.
Maybe Locke will come as Jack's guest and to pay his respects for Jack fixing his spine?

Perhaps Ben will go with Alex and Rousseou?

As for Sun and Jin, I have no effing idea.
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I was thinking about how Locke will get to the concert; it's a bit of a shit way to have it, but isn't the concert THAT night? like a few hours forward from the point we left everyone at? are they really going to have it where Locke has a life changing operation, and have him able to work pass any kind of rehab and walk straight away? seems to me they shoulda just had Jack operate earlier on in the season.

If they don't do it that way, I can see Jin and Sun and Locke not being present at the concert because they are dead. But then again so is Sayid and he will be there so I dunno.
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I was thinking about how Locke will get to the concert; it's a bit of a shit way to have it, but isn't the concert THAT night? like a few hours forward from the point we left everyone at? are they really going to have it where Locke has a life changing operation, and have him able to work pass any kind of rehab and walk straight away? seems to me they shoulda just had Jack operate earlier on in the season.

If they don't do it that way, I can see Jin and Sun and Locke not being present at the concert because they are dead. But then again so is Sayid and he will be there so I dunno.
Technically, so are Charolette, Whidmore, and Faraday and they'll all be present.

Also loved the interaction between Hurley and Ana Lucia last night.

"Oh, I didn't know Ana Lucia was coming with us?"

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They will be there. Also, I'm sure this was all planned out well before the season started so I wouldn't start second-guessing the decision to have Locke not operated on yet
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Technically, so are Charolette, Whidmore, and Faraday and they'll all be present.

Also loved the interaction between Hurley and Ana Lucia last night.

"Oh, I didn't know Ana Lucia was coming with us?"

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Yeah but Jin, Sun and Locke were candidates, the other were not. I can see being a candidate more of an important factor for whatever happens.

Think it's a bit of a cop out as well having just Hurley be the one who suddenly recalls everything way before 'whatever happens'. He coulda just done the favor for Desmond knowing it's important and pivotal to remembering and have whatever is going to happen, happen. Guess I'm nip picking again. But still.
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Technically, so are Charolette, Whidmore, and Faraday and they'll all be present.

Also loved the interaction between Hurley and Ana Lucia last night.

"Oh, I didn't know Ana Lucia was coming with us?"

"Do I know you tubby?"
That was funny. "Oh hey Ana Lucia..oh wait, I don't know you"

Obviously Desmond has filled Hurley in 100% on what's going on, and he either shared information or he's become enlightened too.
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They will be there. Also, I'm sure this was all planned out well before the season started so I wouldn't start second-guessing the decision to have Locke not operated on yet
Yeah fair enough, but still. Having a life changing back operation, then a few hours later attending a concert, just seems like a wrong way to go about it imo.
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Yeah but Jin, Sun and Locke were candidates, the other were not. I can see being a candidate more of an important factor for whatever happens.

Think it's a bit of a cop out as well having just Hurley be the one who suddenly recalls everything way before 'whatever happens'. He coulda just done the favor for Desmond knowing it's important and pivotal to remembering and have whatever is going to happen, happen. Guess I'm nip picking again. But still.
I don't know why it would have to do with candidates. There's been no indication of that. Everyone is involved, whether they're living, dead, or a candidate in the original timeline. It's been that way since the first episode of the season.
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