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Old 09-20-2018, 11:12 PM   #1
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I've been down this road with you before, but I still don't see how Wonder Woman and Man of Steel are similar at all really. (Aside from being superhero stories where the hero leaves home, finds out about themselves, and fights a bad guy.... which happens in a lot of superhero movies.)
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Old 09-20-2018, 11:24 PM   #2
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Doesnt just happen in a lot of superhero movies it happens in a lot of movies.

There arent that many plots to begin with once you strip them down to their bare bones
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I don't really see that in alot of superheroe movies though. Not every origin story is that on point with most aspects like these two were. Destor said it was Captain America with boobs but the only similarities in the two to me was that they were both war pieces, the story told was way different.
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Old 09-21-2018, 12:08 AM   #4
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Still haven't seen Wonder Woman. Somehow can't get to it. Probably because it's about a girl and girls have cooties.
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Still haven't seen Wonder Woman. Somehow can't get to it. Probably because it's about a girl and girls have cooties.
You should see it tho. Its very good.
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It's been sitting on my HD for ages.

So has the last Star Wars flick.
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Well, as much as I don't give a shit about the WW character, I'll still take it over Star Wars.
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The last Star Wars flick was also not very good
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Old 09-21-2018, 01:41 AM   #9
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If youre in the target demo ep8 was good. If youre outside of that it was bad.


The choice to make long time fans anything other than your target demo might be a mistake. We'll have to see what the 8 year old audience theyre after thinks in 15 years.
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If youre in the target demo ep8 was good. If youre outside of that it was bad.


The choice to make long time fans anything other than your target demo might be a mistake. We'll have to see what the 8 year old audience theyre after thinks in 15 years.
I think the numbers for Solo speak well enough on that.
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I think the numbers for Solo speak well enough on that.
I dont. I think solo shows that alienating the die hards and then making nostalgia films doesnt work. You have to commit. Going all in this new cannon could still work.

The portion of the audience that has accepted the new stuff are as fanatical as the old gaurd; i wouldnt write it off just yet.

Im skeptical though.
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So is it worth what I assume is 3 hours of my time?

I'm not a Star Wars fan. I thought The Force Awakens was pretty cool but it was just random sci-fi stuff to me.
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So is it worth what I assume is 3 hours of my time?

I'm not a Star Wars fan. I thought The Force Awakens was pretty cool but it was just random sci-fi stuff to me.
No, honestly. If you werent feeling ep7 this one wont change your mind
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No, honestly. If you werent feeling ep7 this one wont change your mind
It was ok. So was Rogue One.

That Solo flick looks hilarious, though. Hilarious as in ridiculous. That guy looks like a baby.
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If there is one thing we can all agree on, it is that Suicide Squad was a giant turd and two hours of your life that you would prefer to have back.

If you doubt me...
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Easily their worst movie. What a pile of steaming shit that was
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Old 09-21-2018, 05:04 PM   #17
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Ep9 will be very telling
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Ep12 will.
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I think youre saying that glibbly but it really will be. Where the franchise is in...5 years? That to me me very telling. What does a trilogy look like once theyve ran through the nostalgia acts?
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I just saw Solo, and it was way better then I thought it was going to be. I’d rather watch Solo again then Last Jedi.
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Solo could be the greatest film of all time it wouldnt change the fact it bombed
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If it was that good it likely wouldn't bomb. But it's not as bad as they claim either. Collateral damage.
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I loved Episode 8, and I liked Solo. Solo definitely deserved a better box office run. But I'm not a diehard and I'm always open for a different or risky take.
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I liked Suicide Squad more than BvS. Still was not a great movie at all, and had terrible editing/story-telling.... but even with that, it still beat BvS for me.
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Liking a movie and acknowledging its bad are two different things.

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Would you not feel like an outcast as the only child on an island?
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Would you not feel like an outcast as the only child on an island?
Not if I was raised on an island where everybody loved me, and the very ideals of the society was so different that probably even the concept of "outcast" wouldn't occur to me.
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Not if I was raised on an island where everybody loved me, and the very ideals of the society was so different that probably even the concept of "outcast" wouldn't occur to me.
I mean we seen the movie differently then because she was an outcast to me being the only child on the island. She even showed that it bothered her a bit being the only child. Also being the only child on the island made her universally loved but I don't see that being any different than the love the Kent's had for Clark. Both knew they were something special but didn't really know what that special was and took a cautious approach to raising them.
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Being an only child does not make you an outcast. Thats reaching
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Being an only child does not make you an outcast. Thats reaching
Not being an only child, she was the only child. No other kids to play with at all. How's is that not an outcast? She and Superman were different than everyone around them, they were outcast.
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Not being an only child, she was the only child. No other kids to play with at all. How's is that not an outcast? She and Superman were different than everyone around them, they were outcast.
No one cast her out. She was lovingly embraced by all. Not having kids to play with =/= outcast
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An outcast usually means someone who's not wanted by anyone and that's clearly not the case with WW.
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Andre 3000 could play Wonder Woman and she still wouldn't qualify as outcast.
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