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Old 03-15-2012, 04:36 PM   #1521
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I'm furious again thinking about Jack Marston's voice

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Old 03-15-2012, 04:57 PM   #1522
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Ill just ignore the personal attack, Jim.
And about half of my point as well. Though that may have been for convenience, or because you were too fucking stupid to get it. Really not certain at this point. But let's go on:

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When you began the game, you cannot tell me for a second that you expected the ending from the start.
Did I ever claim I knew it was coming from then? They haven't even laid out most of the primary themes of the game at the very beginning, let alone reenforced them. Did you just completely ignore that portion of what I said? Kinda sounds like you did. Though it beats making up my hatred of the game from whole cloth.

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As time went on in the game, I guess I expected something of the sort though I still wasn't entirely sure as I believed
So you were shocked and didn't see it coming at all, but you expected something of the sort.Huh. Howabout that. You had mutually exclusive feelings on a single subject. It almost sounds like you're retconning now that you've been caught.

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I understood the themes and knew something grim was likely going to happen
I bet you'd have to look them up on Wikipedia or a similar site to even tell them to me if I hadn't already alluded to a couple.

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As for the Joker, I saw The Dark Knight on opening day so I could hardly fall in line.
And you were a fanboy before day one, so that doesn't mean a damn thing.

Also, Nicholson WAS horrible. He didn't play the Joker at all. He was Jack Nicholson in face paint. That's one of the things that makes just about everyone else who played the part better. I know it's common to love guys who don't play a character at all, but that's really shit. With the possible exception of Tommy Lee Jones.

But that's not really to the point.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:00 PM   #1523
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Incidentally, I love the fact that the big turn was really hinted at even before the game dropped, though I doubt anyone took the meaning at that point. That's right, Fangerl, even I didn't know at that point.

The oft used tagline:

SPOILER: show
Outlaws to the End


Really turned out to be truth in advertising.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:37 PM   #1524
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La Noire ending the same way kinda ruined both endings for me.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:05 PM   #1525
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And about half of my point as well. Though that may have been for convenience, or because you were too fucking stupid to get it. Really not certain at this point. But let's go on:

Did I ever claim I knew it was coming from then? They haven't even laid out most of the primary themes of the game at the very beginning, let alone reenforced them. Did you just completely ignore that portion of what I said? Kinda sounds like you did. Though it beats making up my hatred of the game from whole cloth.

What I alluded to as you began to find out more about Marston was that he wanted a normal life with his son and wife. You can usually draw a conclusion that this would have something to do with the end of the game in him getting that.

So you were shocked and didn't see it coming at all, but you expected something of the sort.Huh. Howabout that. You had mutually exclusive feelings on a single subject. It almost sounds like you're retconning now that you've been caught.

Nope, not retconning. A poor selection of words in the former statement would make it seem so. The games message is painfully obvious that even a neanderthal such as myself understood it fine.

That the mistakes of your past will always make trouble for your future. Its a good message and one that was cleverly spun into the ending. However as much foreshadowing it had when

SPOILER: show
John gets to settle down for that brief period of time and be a family man after redeeming himself by hunting down his old gang (furthering the message that they couldn't escape their past either)

The brilliance of the ending in my opinion is that to end the game, you have to have his son kill the man responsible for his fathers death. Even he couldn't escape his fathers mistake. Though the ending was a farcry from the standard boss fight it fit the story beautifully and I will reiterate that it was an exceptional story.


I bet you'd have to look them up on Wikipedia or a similar site to even tell them to me if I hadn't already alluded to a couple.

ill admit I just did to check for anything that I missed that wasn't as apparent as the main theme and the underlying one that settling the west had come at the cost of the Native Americans being slaughtered.

Another theme that's readily apparent as it is in nearly all westerns that the towns and communities were run by the biggest and best gun if the law wasn't present and lends to the fact that without laws in place we would be a bunch of animals.


And you were a fanboy before day one, so that doesn't mean a damn thing.

This is both right and wrong, I liked the Joker long before this movie but only read his backstory and Batmans backstory AFTER seeing Batman Begins as I wasnt aware he trained with ninjas in the mountains. I've always enjoyed the Joker character as he seems to be the ideal fit for Batmans code of morals.

Also, Nicholson WAS horrible. He didn't play the Joker at all. He was Jack Nicholson in face paint. That's one of the things that makes just about everyone else who played the part better. I know it's common to love guys who don't play a character at all, but that's really shit. With the possible exception of Tommy Lee Jones.

I think the Burton Batman films still had too much of the
campiness that the 60's show had and that Nicholson's Joker reflected that. The movies still receive fanfare due to them being done first and people being fans o
f the franchise but I believe Nolan captured the true essence of Gotham far better then Burton did.

Though from what I can tell from watching Req play Arkham City for 10 mins, Nolan was outdone on that front.


But that's not really to the point.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:08 PM   #1526
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Incidentally, I love the fact that the big turn was really hinted at even before the game dropped, though I doubt anyone took the meaning at that point. That's right, Fangerl, even I didn't know at that point.

The oft used tagline:

SPOILER: show
Outlaws to the End


Really turned out to be truth in advertising.


Never even thought about that.

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La Noire ending the same way kinda ruined both endings for me.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:11 PM   #1527
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The LA Noire ending pissed me off at first, but then thinking about it afterwards it was pretty decent, didn't quite have the same effect on me as this ending though.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:52 PM   #1528
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:55 PM   #1529
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:22 PM   #1531
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La Noire ending the same way kinda ruined both endings for me.
Like, as in it's more or less a retreat of the same ending?

That blows.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:23 PM   #1532
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:43 AM   #1533
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:23 AM   #1534
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:39 AM   #1535
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Damn it now u spoiled LA Noire's ending for me. Not cool, not cool at all. I just beat RDR yesterday and DAMN that ending was sad. I kept wanting to see a threesome with Marston, his wife, and Bonnie, that wouldve been great.
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No they just dont want me cuz im not attractive enough
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Learn from John Marston. Kill some guys, lasso a chick, and if she doesn't go for you, Snidely Whiplash her!
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Damn it now u spoiled LA Noire's ending for me. Not cool, not cool at all. I just beat RDR yesterday and DAMN that ending was sad. I kept wanting to see a threesome with Marston, his wife, and Bonnie, that wouldve been great.
Sorry I spoiled LA Noire for you. I sort of assumed after 1+ year anybody who was going to play it already did.
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:43 AM   #1547
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Sorry I spoiled LA Noire for you. I sort of assumed after 1+ year anybody who was going to play it already did.
Some of us are trying to get caught up on the good games from 2007-2011. I included.

I see where you are coming from but the three seconds it would have taken to put spoiler tags, just in case would have been much appreciated by us both.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:12 AM   #1548
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Sorry I spoiled LA Noire for you. I sort of assumed after 1+ year anybody who was going to play it already did.
This is a website where people whine if you don't put up spoilers on a decades old movie.

Hell, I bet Fangerl would bitch if I spoiled the ending of Super Mario Bros.

I totally won't, though.
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:15 AM   #1549
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:44 AM   #1550
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DAMN YOU! THAT GAME IS ONLY 27 YEARS OLD!
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Old 03-20-2012, 09:44 AM   #1551
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I am sorry I just dont have time to beat through and play through every big new release as soon as its out.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:02 AM   #1552
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Apparently you do. You don't have a job, a social life, a love life, and you live at home.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:03 AM   #1553
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Apparently you do. You don't have a job, a social life, a love life, and you live at home.
I do have a job, I'm at work all the time, Im just at the computer a lot during work so I can post
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:08 AM   #1554
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Still, you seem to admittedly have nothing that occupies your time.
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Still, you seem to admittedly have nothing that occupies your time.
No way im occupied by work
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:19 AM   #1556
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I remember in 2008 thinking that there was a crazy amount of good games released in one year. That has continued every year since, and as a result, I have yet to play many quality games of this console generation.

Same is probably true for a lot of people on here. I haven't even got around to playing heavy rain yet, nevermind L.A. Noire.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:22 AM   #1557
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I mean fuck, didn't this very thread get bumped because someone had just now started playing the game for the first time?
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:51 AM   #1559
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I remember in 2008 thinking that there was a crazy amount of good games released in one year. That has continued every year since, and as a result, I have yet to play many quality games of this console generation.

Same is probably true for a lot of people on here. I haven't even got around to playing heavy rain yet, nevermind L.A. Noire.
To be fair, you're a pretty excitable young fellow, there.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:53 AM   #1560
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Though to be fair, there are a lot of bipolars on this site, so you're still probably right.

I mean, the site was founded by a guy who throws "amazing" around like it was going out of style.
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