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Old 04-25-2004, 04:45 PM   #1
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Pats drafted P.K. Sam from FSU...and they got a safety from Florida

ALSO they got Wilfork from Miami

Clean sweep of all the nasty teams in Florida
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Yeah P.K. Sam is a pretty good athlete

yeah my b, Torbor is a defensive end but I figure they will move him to Linebacker

Also Michael Turner is a steal for San Diego in the fifth round. Hes a beast
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Okay so on the draft board it said the Vikings got two HBs.


Now only one.



Ah well.
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Quincy Wilson from West Virigina in the 7th round

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LOL, I don't remember what team it was, but at the bottom of the creen it said that somebody drafted Nathan Jones.
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LOL, I don't remember what team it was, but at the bottom of the creen it said that somebody drafted Nathan Jones.
lol. Dallas drafted CB Nathan Jones in the 7th round.

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lol. Dallas drafted CB Nathan Jones in the 7th round.

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Someone want to tell me why the hell the Vikings picked two Halfbacks in a row when Tice said before the draft, QB and HB were the two positions the Vikings did NOT need depth in?

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Hey, at least they made all their picks on time this year.
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Baltimore had a trade on the table for Leftwich and pulled the trade off the table at the last minute.

I don't get it. Why did the Vikings deal picks with the Ravens this year? I would tell them to go **** themselves after making us look like idiots.

However, the Ravens lost their pick this year for BOLLER, and the Vikings have picked up blue chippers the last three years. This year, getting the best end available, who is still young and has a lot of room to grow, yet has the technique of a polished veteran.

You can talk to me about the stupidity of two years ago, but last year they got dogged by the Ravens and the media turned it into a matter of unpreparedness, which is untrue.

I mean hey, if Miami would have backed out of the trade with us, we would have been screwed again probably. So we lucked out there.
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There's no way Baltimore would have gotten Leftwich for all the tea in China.
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They were on the phone with the Vikings. They backed out of it at the last minute and the Vikings missed their time, which allowed two teams to pick -- one of them was Jax who got Leftwich. Baltimore wanted him, sucka.

Oh and I forgot, the Ravens are shady assholes in the personnell department because of the Terrell Owens deal, too. Going behind Owens' back to trade for him like that, when they knew he wanted to go to Philly. They knew it, but Newsome pulled off what was an awesome move, but still very shady, and ended up kicking them in the ass.
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They were on the phone with the Vikings. They backed out of it at the last minute and the Vikings missed their time, which allowed two teams to pick -- one of them was Jax who got Leftwich. Baltimore wanted him, sucka.

Oh and I forgot, the Ravens are shady assholes in the personnell department because of the Terrell Owens deal, too. Going behind Owens' back to trade for him like that, when they knew he wanted to go to Philly. They knew it, but Newsome pulled off what was an awesome move, but still very shady, and ended up kicking them in the ass.
Shady? Owens was traded, he should have gone there and played. Owens and his agent are Shady, and also don't know how to read a calander.
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Shady? Owens was traded, he should have gone there and played. Owens and his agent are Shady, and also don't know how to read a calander.
Not getting out of his contract was stupid.

But remember: Teams tend to court trade bait. They don't go behind their backs. Newsome KNEW Owens is a loose cannon, yet he went behind his back and traded him without talking to him first, OR his agent. He just talked to the 'Niners. It was not the way you're supposed to do things.

Remember, Portis, Bailey, Brunell etc. all had contracts signed before they were even traded. When you do something all clanedstine like Newsome did, *I* would be pissed, too! You take the player out of the equation and treat him like a piece of property, and when you're a guy like Owens, how are you supposed to take that? I'm sorry, I don't think Owens is a stand-up guy by ANY means. But I know that he had every right to be mad at the Ravens for what they did.
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The way I see it, the Vikings drafted 20th. They didn't have a million picks like the Pats. They made due with what they got, and got amazing players.

Detroit and Arizona? OF COURSE they did well in the draft. Holy shit. How can you not when you were that piss-poor last season?

I don't count them as draft winners. They could have drafted anyone and been winners, with how high they drafted.
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Oh. I thought you were talking about this year, as in the Ravens were trying to trade for Leftwich.
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He's probably going to sign him to a long-term contract and bench him.

Or, put him on special teams so he shortens his career.

Or something really great.
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Lions had a great draft last year too and look where it got them.

Good drafts mean shit if you're still lacking where it counts...

(o-line, quarterback, possibly halfback since rookies don't usually make an impact)
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Oh not to mention TE, D-line, linebacker and safety.
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Lions are rebuilding, thats all

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They've been rebuilding for like 50 years.



Eh I'm just jealous. Mooch is going to turn them around.

At least the PACKERS are going downhill fast. Favre.
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Umm... no they aren't.
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Umm... no they aren't.
They are gradually getting worse at every position. Once Favre's age catches up with him, they've got nothing, really. McKenzie wants out, their WR corps without Favre will be shown to be the weakest in the league.

Everyone is just waiting for Favre to finally quit. As he gets older, he won't be able to handle the cold-weather games.

And think about it... throwing so many draft picks at the CB slot, and still can't stop Moss... they made it into the playoffs on a fluke and because Denver bent over for them. They won't be so lucky this year. They have Favre, but I pick the Lions to beat the Pack out for 2nd in the NFC North.
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I dunno Im a fan of JP. He's hella confident. There's a line between confident and cocky and I think he is right on that line.

We'll see how he does.
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Mel Kiper didn't even rank Detroit as having one of the top 3 drafts. He put Cincy, Houston, and Atlanta as his top 3. What a 'tard.

Detroit and Buffalo came out the best after the draft IMO. And Cincy had FAR from the best draft. They drafted a RB in the first round. I guess cause that Rudi Johnson guy sucks so much.
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Sorry, you just lost credibility there...

There's a chance that QB may turn out, but won't be for a few years, everyone says he's immature and just listening to him, so far I agree. Plus they gave up to much to get him, if they wanted to go QB, they could have gone for a better QB.

Friend of mine is a big bills fan, was happy when they traded back into the first, was pissed when the took that QB, he still would have been there in round #2 or possible later.

I like the WR, but w/o line help, Bledsoe won't get the ball to them.
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You may be right VEL about that J.P. whatshisname. The QB Buffalo picked up. A friend of mine was just telling me how he heard an interview with him where he was calling himself the next Bret Favre.
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Brett Favre threw what, 20 INT his first season? And he was erratic and a loose cannon before Holmgren. Losman could be Favre, but without a Holmgren to lead him, he'll become what Favre could have been.
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Brett Favre threw what, 20 INT his first season? And he was erratic and a loose cannon before Holmgren. Losman could be Favre, but without a Holmgren to lead him, he'll become what Favre could have been.
That's not the point. Something about a guy who hasn't even played his first pro game comparing himself to one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game just says "conceided asshole" to me.
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Sorry, you just lost credibility there...

There's a chance that QB may turn out, but won't be for a few years, everyone says he's immature and just listening to him, so far I agree. Plus they gave up to much to get him, if they wanted to go QB, they could have gone for a better QB.

Friend of mine is a big bills fan, was happy when they traded back into the first, was pissed when the took that QB, he still would have been there in round #2 or possible later.

I like the WR, but w/o line help, Bledsoe won't get the ball to them.
I have to disagree with you here. I've been a bills fan for a long time and followed this draft intently. They traded up to get Losman because Green Bay or St. Louis was going to get him. Think about it this way: They traded a 2nd and 5th this year and a 1st next year. They were going to need a QB next year so in a sense they gave up there 1st next year (which they would have used on a QB anyway in a much weaker class) and their 2nd and 5th are pretty much used on getting the qb they wanted and giving him a year's experiance under bledsoe learning buffalo's system. Pretty smart move if you ask me. As for Losman, he is extremely smart person, check out his wonderlic score, he scored quite well compared to the other qb's. As for his attitude, i think a qb needs a little ' i think i'm the best swagger' Dan Marino had it, Jim Kelly had it among many other's. Qb's need to be able to chew out their team mates when they f*ck up and also be man enough to take the blame for their own mistakes, that's what Losman brings to the table. Whether he pan's out or not, who know's, but i like him and think he will be really good IMO.
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I have to disagree with you here. I've been a bills fan for a long time and followed this draft intently. They traded up to get Losman because Green Bay or St. Louis was going to get him. Think about it this way: They traded a 2nd and 5th this year and a 1st next year. They were going to need a QB next year so in a sense they gave up there 1st next year (which they would have used on a QB anyway in a much weaker class) and their 2nd and 5th are pretty much used on getting the qb they wanted and giving him a year's experiance under bledsoe learning buffalo's system. Pretty smart move if you ask me. As for Losman, he is extremely smart person, check out his wonderlic score, he scored quite well compared to the other qb's. As for his attitude, i think a qb needs a little ' i think i'm the best swagger' Dan Marino had it, Jim Kelly had it among many other's. Qb's need to be able to chew out their team mates when they f*ck up and also be man enough to take the blame for their own mistakes, that's what Losman brings to the table. Whether he pan's out or not, who know's, but i like him and think he will be really good IMO.
Time will tell, but they could have gotten JP in round 2... and who knows, maybe he will be the next great QB... but from what I've read/seen... I don't think so.
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orrrrr they wanted a capable back up since they just lost a marquee running back and are moving Rudi Johnson to the full time 16 game starter
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orrrrr they wanted a capable back up since they just lost a marquee running back and are moving Rudi Johnson to the full time 16 game starter
I gotta admit, as I did in the other thread, Chris Perry wasn't that bad of a pick for where he was picked. There wasn't a lot of talent right there, to tell the truth.
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