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Old 12-22-2011, 12:10 AM   #1
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See it's like this boy. Money in the Bank is a tool for creative to change the world title picture as they see fit. Granted, they usually take the easy way out; if you can't see the possibilities for the whole scenario from a booking standpoint I don't have to make you look like a fool because you already do.
but it damages the credibility of the champion these days and it is also damaging the credibility of the world championships by giving every last average joe a title reign
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:22 AM   #2
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but it damages the credibility of the champion these days and it is also damaging the credibility of the world championships by giving every last average joe a title reign
That's all in the way it's booked, not the gimmick itself.
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:51 AM   #3
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See it's like this boy. Money in the Bank is a tool for creative to change the world title picture as they see fit. Granted, they usually take the easy way out; if you can't see the possibilities for the whole scenario from a booking standpoint I don't have to make you look like a fool because you already do.

I shouldn't have to press you to create a rational thought. I knew you'd come around though.


I appreciate your input as long as it's not a cheap shot, HHH cock sucking input like you've done earlier. I get it-- HHH is the best thing in wrestling... EVER



As far as the creative team being given "a way to change the world title picture", I will say again-- If it takes money in the bank to swerve us in wrestling we need to think totally non-stop about the direction in WWE wrestling.


You say "a way", I say "a bail out" for the creative team to serve up horse shit. Not any worse than Russo's horse shit but horse shit none the less.


Something about a title changing hands after a one fall match seems wrong to me. Maybe I am just old school. But you guys have been watching way longer than me
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:01 PM   #4
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I appreciate your input as long as it's not a cheap shot, HHH cock sucking input like you've done earlier. I get it-- HHH is the best thing in wrestling... EVER
You're confusing me with James Steele dumbass.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:33 PM   #5
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Money in the Bank IN NO WAY "damages" the credibility of the Champion.

Short title reigns DO damage the credibility of the Champion.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:25 AM   #7
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What is wrong about it?
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:00 AM   #8
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I think the mitb match makes the morbid poverty special and gives them.a good long lasting story that always has you guessing. Its just a prop for storytelling. Some mitb runs are executed excellently, others not as much. I don't think its the concept that's flawed though.
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Old 12-22-2011, 10:03 AM   #9
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:52 PM   #10
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It's a neat concept that the WWE has beaten to death just like everything else.
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Old 12-23-2011, 01:14 AM   #11
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CM Punk might have never gotten over without it. So, it's automatically the best thing ever.
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:21 AM   #12
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Hey guys, long time follower of wrestling. I've been a fan since I was a kid in 1996 when Marcus Bagwell & Too Cold Scorpio beat Roma and Orndorff at Clash of the Champions 16. I'm only 25 but hell, that was 1996 so I figure I've been watching long enough to say-- in what sector is it appropriate for a world champion to be pinned AFTER winning the the title??
Oh, Hi, I'm FourFifty. I've been a fan since you were your dad's Kool-Aid Man Fantasy. Anyways, with your views on Money In The Bank, you're kinda way out there. I bet you line your hats with tinfoil to prevent Big Brother from stealing your brainwaves.

MITB is one of the best things that can happen. It has been a reason to get new blood and fresh faces in the title scene. Hell, it can even get old blood back in the title scene. Look at Edge and CM Punk who were MITB winners. Look at RVD, who should have been in the title scene on his own awesomeness. He got in there because of MITB. Kane got a nice push because of MITB. And hey, who can forgot The Miz teasing his cashing in MITB. And Jack Swagger... Well ya can't win 'em all, point goes to Team You.

Does it have to be a 34728945 man ladder match? No. Does it make the match better? Not all the time. But still, the match itself serves as a great symbol of the winner climbing the ladder to the main event.

So just enjoy it, and remember when you think you've been around the block, you'll find someone who has been around the city.
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:30 AM   #13
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To be honest, I kinda smirked when I read "Hey guys, long time follower of wrestling".

Then, "I've been a fan since I was a kid in 1996" .
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Old 12-24-2011, 03:57 PM   #14
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To be honest, I kinda smirked when I read "Hey guys, long time follower of wrestling".

Then, "I've been a fan since I was a kid in 1996" .
To be fair, 15 years is a long time.

Especially since it's the majority of the lifespan of the majority of posters here.
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Old 12-25-2011, 03:22 AM   #15
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To be fair, 15 years is a long time.

Especially since it's the majority of the lifespan of the majority of posters here.
I've been watching American wrestling since 1994, and I would never call myself a "longtime follower", especially since I missed so much in the 80's.
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Old 12-25-2011, 05:02 PM   #16
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I've been watching American wrestling since 1994, and I would never call myself a "longtime follower", especially since I missed so much in the 80's.
Just because you're a dumbass who has set up arbitrary restrictions doesn't mean everyone has to be.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:35 AM   #17
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Just because you're a dumbass who has set up arbitrary restrictions doesn't mean everyone has to be.
aguakate, Kane Knight just OWNED you! LMAO


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Old 12-24-2011, 02:40 PM   #18
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:35 AM   #19
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No way four fifty I just don't have the time.....
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Old 12-25-2011, 08:59 AM   #23
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Except for Owen/Bret I don't see much to have gotten hooked into in 1994. 17 years is a long time watching wrestling. It might not be as long as others have been watching (around WM4 for me), but it's still a longtime. Though I call bullshit on 1996 because it means he only started watching wrestling because of the New World Order. Fuck that shit.

Like I said before there is nothing stopping you watching the 80s stuff on the internet or wherever. It's not like just because you missed it the first time that you can't go back. It's alot better than the stuff on today at any rate. It's going to be great going back to watch it all over again if the WWE Network gets on my cable box.
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Except for Owen/Bret I don't see much to have gotten hooked into in 1994.

I moved to the United States in 1994, and the first time I watched wrestling w/ my uncle, and saw Razor Ramon, I was hooked ('cause he was "latino").
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Old 12-25-2011, 11:56 AM   #25
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I haven't posted much on this site but however I have been watching wresltling for a long time ,probably longer than anyone else here..lol. As for MITB i agree with some others .It was good for edge cause that his thing,being opportunistic,but i agree where it really kinda doesn't make the guy who cashes it in credible.take Daniel bryan for instance,I mean i like the guy and i think he is a great wrestler,kind of reminds me of Bob Backlund in that plain just wrestles no gimmicks type, but i would have rather seen him beat show straight up then doing it that way.the WWE (and TNA for that manner) should go back to having longer reigns .Look at it this way,the best way to really be credible is knocking off the champ who had the belt for like 6 months to a year then knocking off a guy who won it by beating someone when then just finshed defending the belt after 20 minutes or so.If they let the guy keep the belt for a long time, i bet they'll get more better ratings .Well that's my opinion anyway ,thanks.
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It serves the same purpose as King of the Ring did, but is more of a spectacle.

I dont see how thats bad in any way.
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FACES
Lex Luger
Bret Hart
Undertaker
Razor Ramon
Randy Savage
1-2-3 Kid
British Bulldog
Doink
Adam Bomb
Sparky Plugg
Marty Jannetty
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Mo
Fatu
Samu
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Cousin Luke
Cousin Butch
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Owen Hart
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Shawn Michaels
Bob Backlund
Jerry Lawler
Jeff Jarrett
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Jim Niedhart
Bastion Booger
Kwang
Jacques
Pierre
Tom Pritchard
Jimmy Del Ray
Timothy Well.
Steven Dunn
Bam Bam Bigelow
King Kong Bundy
Irwin R. Shiester
Tatanka

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Steiner Brothers
Smoking Gunns
Men on a Mission
Headshrinkers
Heavenly Bodies
Bushwhackers
Well Dunn

WOMEN
Alundra Blaze
Bull Nakano
Leilani Kai
Luna Vachon

MANAGERS
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Mr. Fuji
Johnny Polo
Harvey Wippleman
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1994 WWF ROSTER

FACES
Lex Luger Shit
Bret Hart Great
Undertaker (Gone from competition Jan-August)
Razor Ramon Awesome.
Randy Savage Announcer wrestled like once.
1-2-3 Kid - Wasn't very good.
British Bulldog Rejoined in September, but used just as a "hart family member" role.
Doink- Shit.
Adam Bomb- Shit.
Sparky Plugg- Shit.
Marty Jannetty- 1993 was his year, not 1994.
Earthquake - Did nothing at all and then released to WCW.
Rick Steiner Didnt do much in 1994
Scott Steiner: same as his brother.
Billy Gunn- lol
Bart Gunn lol
Mabel - Whomp there it is was played out 2 years before this.
Mo - Same.
Fatu- Pretty Sweet guy
Samu - Yeah, but they fired him for Barbarian.
Sionne - Never fit with Fatu.
Cousin Luke - lol
Cousin Butch- lol
Virgil- Superstars jobber.

HEELS
Yokozuna- Pretty fucking sweet.
Owen Hart - Same thing.
Diesel.- Yeah he was pretty good.
Shawn Michaels - Great.
Bob Backlund - awesome.
Jerry Lawler - sweet.
Jeff Jarrett- sucked.
Crush - blew.
Jim Niedhart - boring attache to owen.
Bastion Booger -wrestlecrap.
Kwang - Savio Vega sucked then too.
Jacques- awesome/
Pierre; not as awesome as jacques rougeau.
Tom Pritchard- did nothing after jobbing summerslam 1993.
Jimmy Del Ray; Same.
Timothy Well.-jobber
Steven Dunn- jobber
Bam Bam Bigelow: great.
King Kong Bundy: pretty rundown at this point.
Irwin R. Shiester; never clicked again after splitting with ted dibiase.
Tatanka: sucked.

TAG TEAMS
Quebecers: great tag team.
Steiner Brothers did nothing in WWF in 1994.
Smoking Gunns: they sucked.
Men on a Mission they sucked.
Headshrinkers: changing team members killed this team.
Heavenly Bodies: Only plus was James E. Cornette.
Bushwhackers: Yay whoa hongi Sucked.
Well Dunn: blew.

WOMEN
Alundra Blaze: No.
Bull Nakano Yes.
Leilani Kai: is this 1994 or 1984?
Luna Vachon: didn't wrestle in 1994 that much but great as bam bam manager.


MANAGERS
Ted DiBiase: great.
Jim Cornette great
Paul Bearer wasn't around cause taker wasnt around.
Mr. Fuji: very tail end of his career as a manager had to have cornette be yoko's real manager.
Johnny Polo: Never really clicked.
Harvey Wippleman: Adam bomb sucked so he sucked in 1994.
Lou Albano: Good until they changed the members of the headshrinkers.
Afa: same.
Oscar. shitty.
Dink worst thing ever.
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1994 was a fairly good year for Wrestling.

The Royal Rumble ended on a tie, with Bret Hart and Lex Luger going on to WrestleMania. The Razor/HBK Ladder Match. Owen Hart won the King of the Ring, thereby becoming "The King of Harts". HBK superkicked Diesel a couple of times, eventually leading to Diesel becoming turning face and winning the WWF Championship in about 8 seconds.

And a lot more stuff. It was a good year to become a fan.
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1994 was a fairly good year for Wrestling.

The Royal Rumble ended on a tie, with Bret Hart and Lex Luger going on to WrestleMania. The Razor/HBK Ladder Match. Owen Hart won the King of the Ring, thereby becoming "The King of Harts". HBK superkicked Diesel a couple of times, eventually leading to Diesel becoming turning face and winning the WWF Championship in about 8 seconds.

And a lot more stuff. It was a good year to become a fan.
That all sounds like shit except Razor/HBK. lol 8 second match for the title gr8 year
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The eight second match happened at a house show, to be fair.

Also, if you call Bret/Owen at Wrestlemania X "shit", I'm going to have to ask for you to be banned forever.
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No that match was great but 94 was pretty awful overall
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LOL "94 was pretty awful overall".
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LOL "94 was pretty awful overall".
Yeah, it was. WCW was more interesting to me in 94 and that was before they got Hogan.
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I blame Lex Luger.
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He did have a pretty sweet bus, and I DID mark out when he "hip tossed" Yokozuna...but still.
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You know what year was amazing? 1992.
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1992 was the last awesome year until like 1997 in my honest opinion.

for WWF that is. WCW was awesome in 96
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