Bradshaw picked on us all when we were at school :(

[The Lone Drinker]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight No, because I haven't been able to get through your post without falling out of my chair laughing. It makes it hard to rebut... but at least you've gotten off your conspiracy theories...

Nice excuse, and a good way to save face too. But you are still wrong.

[big_bluto]

Originally Posted by big_bluto Lone Drinker - take the hint here. (18 posts / -200 reps) = not a good start

Hello........Lone Drinker......
Anybody Home?


Okay, apparently you can't take the hint.
So you started posting and someone disgreed with you?
Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it seems that since neither Kane Knight or yourself will agree on this/these issues, maybe you need to step back and have a look at what you've written.

Now then, given KK has what? 55,000 posts and mega rep points, that would suggest that he has been posting for a while, and a lot of people have agreed with things he's said for quite a while.
You, the new guy, have very few posts, and your reps are in the minus.
Applying logic to this, would suggest that your posts are either stupid, ignorant, or you can't let go and would be out of your depth in a car park puddle.

I don't believe that's the case.
Is it maybe that you found this great website, started putting your opinion out there (just like everyone else) and found that your opinion or argument wouldn't stand up to close scrutiny?
Perhaps as a result, you feel backed into a corner and have to stand up for yourself? (hence the eye-poking, nipping, biting and name-calling)

It's getting you nowhere.
Just do me a favour and step back from your anger, and have a read over everything again, from the very start.
Then when you get to the end, type an emotionless response that is clear, based on fact, and can stand up to argument.
Then you'll see how good a site TPWW.net really is........

Then again, maybe you'll read all of this, get defensive and call me a dick?

Who knows, the ball is in your court..........

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by The Lone Drinker Nice excuse, and a good way to save face too. But you are still wrong.

I'm not the one who needs to save face here.

[PureHatred]

Lone Drinker, you stupid piece of shit. Read my post again. I never said Bradshaw's age was the problem. What I was pointing out was that he's had a long career and at no time has he shown enough talent to merit a main event push.

Now you can sit there and criticize the so-called internet smarks all you want, but they are a pretty good reflection of the tastes of the fan. Before Eddie and Benoit got their pig pushes, I can recall thread after thread on just about every site I visited saying how much they wanted to see these two men in the main event scene. Eddie and Benoit as champs is the payoff for many fans who have followed these two talented workers throughout their career.

At no time in the last, say, 8 years have I seen a single thread where anyone has wondered: "Why isn't the WWE pushing Bradshaw?" At no time have I seen a discussion where someone tried to show how he's underappreciated. It's not as if the roar of the crowd every time Bradshaw came out was deafening. And in that time, plenty of pure brawlers have headlined the WWE. So it's not just his ring style; it's that no ne cares.

As a member of a tag team, he was entertaining as comic relief. But when he got a singles push as the hardcore champion with those horns on the belt: no one cared. He was a face and people were pissed off, he was getting X-Pac(lone drinker) heat. Now as a heel he is again met with more apathy than anything. That sound you hear every Thursday is the channel being changed when Bradshaw shows up on TV. The ratings are way down. The buy rate is going to suck. They couldn't sell out the arena for a PPV he headined. Obviously, its more than the smarks you hate so much that have no interest in Bradshaw.

Yes, we as fans do like new main eventers. But we'd also like them to have talent. If Christian all of a sudden got a two month push into main eventing SummerSlam, you'd probably hear zero complaints. Hell, if they'd run the same exact angle with Charlie Haas, I think the response would've been tremendous. Because both of those men would be getting a push based on their work. Bradshaw is getting his out of some twisted sense of loyalty; a reward for being with the company for so long.

Mainstream fans don't give a fuck about Bradshaw. Internet fans don't give a fuck about Bradhsaw. You are certainly entitled to you opinion- even if you're the only person who believes it-but when you blame the whole world for disagreeing with you you come off as a paranoid asshole who can't just accept when he's wrong.

[big_bluto]

Logic > Lone Drinker

[The Lone Drinker]

PureHatred - Bradshaw was over in his A.P.A. days. He was more over then Shawn Michaels during the days of the Rockers. So you can't blame the WWE for trying.

Then again, Shawn Michaels was a little guy and a high-flying wrestler. Not a brawler and your kind hates brawlers with a passion.....I bet if Bradshaw was a little guy and he wrestled the style you like, you'd have no beef with him.

I think the reason why compter nerds hate big men so much is because they remind them of the bullies who kick their asses at school or did kick their asses at school. And they cream their pants for little guys because the little guys are tough guys and are the type of men they wish they could be.

And it's even more odd how all the wrestlers they love are pretty boys and are also the same guys who the girls love too like HBK and Y2J. Then again in the words of Bradshaw, it is 2004 and I don't judge........

Originally Posted by big_bluto Hello........Lone Drinker...... Anybody Home? Okay, apparently you can't take the hint. So you started posting and someone disgreed with you? Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but it seems that since neither Kane Knight or yourself will agree on this/these issues, maybe you need to step back and have a look at what you've written. Now then, given KK has what? 55,000 posts and mega rep points, that would suggest that he has been posting for a while, and a lot of people have agreed with things he's said for quite a while. You, the new guy, have very few posts, and your reps are in the minus. Applying logic to this, would suggest that your posts are either stupid, ignorant, or you can't let go and would be out of your depth in a car park puddle. I don't believe that's the case. Is it maybe that you found this great website, started putting your opinion out there (just like everyone else) and found that your opinion or argument wouldn't stand up to close scrutiny? Perhaps as a result, you feel backed into a corner and have to stand up for yourself? (hence the eye-poking, nipping, biting and name-calling) It's getting you nowhere. Just do me a favour and step back from your anger, and have a read over everything again, from the very start. Then when you get to the end, type an emotionless response that is clear, based on fact, and can stand up to argument. Then you'll see how good a site TPWW.net really is........ Then again, maybe you'll read all of this, get defensive and call me a dick? Who knows, the ball is in your court..........

Clearly you have mistaken me for someone who gives a shit about rep points.

Originally Posted by Kane Knight I'm not the one who needs to save face here.

If you are so smart, then why don't you respond already?

After all, I am the bad guy here and your bitches will love you even if you make some stupid post, so what have you got to lose champ? I guess because you realize I am a non-computer nerd unlike these virgins here and you don't want to make yourself to be more foolish then you already are.

But I will do you one favor. Like I said, I am above insults and I know the game you and your slaves are playing. You are trying to turn this whole topic about me and make this into a flame war. You also don't know much about me, being a newbie and all and I think you also sense I can do some serious damage on the flames too which is why you want me to flame you in hopes I will get banned.

So until you do respond to my post about Bradshaw, I will walk away from this thread. You and your prags can keep telling you that you won over and over again if you wish, but you and I know the real results don't we?

[91]

Originally Posted by Rob As for the Flair comments, when he goes up to Mick Foley after Mania and shakes his hand thanking him for the oppotunity to work with him and then 2 weeks later says what he did about him, the guy comes off like a dick.

I've missed this one - what did Flair say about Foley?

As for Blackjack Bigot, I've long since stop caring about his nonsense. I've never seen a match of his that I've enjoyed (Eddie might have gotten a good match out of him, but like I was going to go out of my way to watch that PPV), I've never read anything of his on his little column that I've particularly agreed with him for and as for not having done anything more athletic than checkers - pah, when I was in school me and my friends used to have some pretty wild games of Monopoly.

On the plus side, if he keeps doing the Ted DiBiase "I'll give you $500 for doing something" shtick, we might find the next Rob Van Dam, so I don't entirely dissaprove. Just don't let him wrestle.

[PureHatred]

Lone Drinker, are you seriously resorting to the same kind of tactics that Bradshaw used? You're going to bust out the gay jokes and computer nerd comments? What are you, 12?

You're on a computer you gimp. You must post on these message boards in between driving your corvette, ropin' steer, and huntin' injuns. "YEE-HAH! I'M A MANLY MAN. I ONLY LIKE ME RASSLERS THAT DURN USE THEIR FISTICUFFS AND SIMULATE PRISON RAPE IN THE SHOWERS!!"

Once again, brawlers as a whole don't get criticized. Just brawlers like Bradshaw with a low workrate who don't sell much. Jesus Christ, Mick Foley is a god to most wrestling fans and he does maybe 6 real moves in a match.

And during their recent runs, at what point was Bradshaw over in the APA? I must have missed those deafening Bradshaw chants at Wrestlemania.. ..the APA was over around 2000/2001. They tried to give Bradshaw a singles push. It failed miserably. The WWE is trying again. it's failing again.

You get all bent out of shape but you're still missing the point. It's not just Internet fans who don't like Bradshaw. The ratings, the buy rates, and the attendance all show that no one (mainstream & smart, alike)is interested in his main event push.

You can go off and insinuate how we all are fags and queers because we like "little guys" and you can martyr yourself for speaking yor mind and blame the fickle internet for not giving JBL a chance but the fact remains that at no previous time during his time in the WWE has Bradshaw done anything which makes the fans want to see him in the main event.

Not when he was Justin 'Hawk'Bradshaw. Not as a part of the Blackjacks. Not as an Acolyte. Not in the APA. Not as the hardcore Texan. Not as JBL. He's a midcarder. Period.

And maybe you should get an objective party to read this thread to you. No one is taking Kane Knight's side because you're a "n00b" or he's a "face" (god, join us in the real world, huh?), they are disagreeing with you because they don't like Bradshaw and because you come off as an arrogant, overly-sensitive prick.

[BasicThuganomics]

Lone Drinker, you need to respond to the fact that ratings have been going downhill since WWE gave Bradshaw his main event push, the fact that Bradshaw is known for being an asshole backstage and someone who likes to pick on newer guys in the lockerroom, the fact that it took nearly up until the day of the PPV to sell out the event ( in an area of the country where Eddie Guerrero is extremely over), and the fact that WWE officials are even expecting a low buyrate for the PPV.

It's not just us internet fans that aren't showing faith in Bradshaw, there have been numerous reports of Bradshaw's push being criticized by WWE management, and even the wrestlers themselves.

[CosaNostra]

Originally Posted by The Lone Drinker Eddie and Beniot are around the same age as Bradshaw and they are just now being pushed too.

I guess Benoit's WCW title win a few years ago doesn't count as a "push" or is "main event".

But this IS 2004........

[CosaNostra]

Originally Posted by The Lone Drinker And it's even more odd how all the wrestlers they love are pretty boys and are also the same guys who the girls love too like HBK and Y2J.

HBK and Y2J? Oh.......... you mean those guys with t-al-e-n-t! And who can use a mic? And are more personable? And who get more pops or heat (wether face or heel) and..........

Need I go on?

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by The Lone Drinker If you are so smart, then why don't you respond already?

For the same reason I don't keep punching someone after they've been knocked out.

No point. Your argument's total shit, and you're the only one that seems to not get it. You're entitled to your opinion and all, but that's about the only thing that hasn't been ripped to shreds by someone thus far.

But hey, why let that stop you? Keep declaring yourself a winner. Big Bad Kane Knight is just a bully, you're a genius and master debater, and Bradshaw's the Savior of Smackdown. Everything else and anyone who tells you different is part of a TPWW-wide conspiracy of faces versus n00bs.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by CosaNostra HBK and Y2J? Oh.......... you mean those guys with t-al-e-n-t! And who can use a mic? And are more personable? And who get more pops or heat (wether face or heel) and.......... Need I go on?

He forget, Benoit (The guy all the girls get wet over), Kurt Angle (Oh, he's soooo dreamy ) and so on.

But he's good at bullshit arguments without any substance and selective ignorance.

not to mention that Jeff's a "Pretty boy," all the girls love him, and the internet "Smarks" hate him.

but why let that get in the way of implying that us smarks r fagz?