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Old 07-15-2015, 08:49 PM   #1
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I thought the ladder match was fucking outstanding for Ambrose as far as one night booking of his character. But when you have a guy show that much heart, practically getting murdered and still basically being a fluke away from winning the world title and then a week later he's back to just losing because of a distraction to make someone else look good... it kinda takes you out of caring because it shows how little anything matters long term.
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:50 PM   #2
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I still think Bray Wyatt can be the "new Undertaker" but it's going to take a lot of rehab work. Like, have him say spooky shit but deliver on what he says in the promos. People should feud with Wyatt and win or lose, be changed.

He could have lost to Cena at Wrestlemania but he should have driven Cena so crazy that he had to resort to cheating or savagely beating him to get it done. He should have exposed his dark side.

Imagine if that happened and he went over the Undertaker.

Instead he feuds with Cena, then Cena wins the title. He destroys Ambrose and Ambrose gets a title shot. He breaks Ryback's ribs, Ryback gets the Intercontinental title.
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:54 PM   #3
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Dean Ambrose needs to stop being a fucking goofball prop comedian too

Seems so forced

Dude has such a natural "coolness" and humor to him and they bury it beneath poorly written bullshit
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:10 PM   #4
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Dean Ambrose needs to stop being a fucking goofball prop comedian too

Seems so forced

Dude has such a natural "coolness" and humor to him and they bury it beneath poorly written bullshit
Yeah, Ambrose was better when he was less "comedic crazy" and just more "I'm going to punch your teeth out crazy".
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:01 PM   #5
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can i just say that rusev calling lana things like "that dumb blonde-headed witchy woman" are some of my favorite moments of any raw? he is so funny on the mic, and he's not even trying to be. i never imagined he would be as good as he is when he was in nxt
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Rusev makes me lol consistently

Something about him hobbling around on crutches with his foot booted spouting off these insults

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Ambrose can promo. Like actually talk people into wanting to see a match. They should let him do that more.
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Rusev's performance on RAW was great. Now that he's back in the ring, he's going to get to CRUSH and re-build himself. Wins over him still mean something. He's only been pinned once.
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Much better when talking about "rearranging Seth Rollins' face" then he is trying to force "Justin Bieber" comparisons on him....
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:14 PM   #10
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i still don't get the justin bieber thing...
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i still don't get the justin bieber thing...
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Neither do I.... Like zero similarities......
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Neither do I.... Like zero similarities......
Honestly I think they keep bringing it up so Bieber will show is on the show

Best promo Ambrose cut was saying what he was going to do to Rollins, no hot dog carts or anger management.
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Pretty sure it's just a reference to Rollins' highlights making him come off like a teenybopper.
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:23 PM   #15
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They don't know how to build guys up in a losing effort. That's the issue. Ambrose in that ladder match would have actually been a good job of doing it if they followed up with it.

Just imagine Wyatt losing to Cena or Taker but instead of just taking the clean, uneventful loss, he passes out after a ridiculously long time in the STFU or Hell's Gate and just before he passes out, he laughs maniacally and yells something creepy to them. "See you in your dreams John/Dead Man" or something along those lines. Then after the bell rings, they can't even celebrate because they're so creeped out. They just look down at him like "What the fuck..." It accomplishes the same thing for the guy who won and actually puts Wyatt over more despite losing.

Instead, they have Wyatt look scared shitless of The Undertaker on top of being beaten in the match. It's not hard to put a guy over in a loss. They just don't seem to understand the concept anymore.
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:47 PM   #16
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AMbrose would be doing 10 times better right now if the just gave him a story after losing to Rollins
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I think Beiber has highlights in his hair?

Anyways I think He looks more like AJs friend Kaitlyn.
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Rollins/Beiber analogy is because Beiber is an entitled whiny prick who hides behind his bodyguards and is all talk and no action, which is Rollin's heel character behind the Authority.
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I feel bad for him, he's got a great gimmick, plays the character well and can go in the ring. He works really hard. He carried the ENTIRE Undertaker feud (thanks for contributing some Powerpoint slides, deadman) and managed a halfway decent match against a 50 year old who works once a year with a rolled ankle. Then he just lies down instead of beating the bulletproof senior citizen who's on the show once a year.
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Old 07-16-2015, 04:15 PM   #20
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Is it just me..... or did Owens get COMPLETELY out shown by Rusev and Cesaro this week?
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I wouldn't say that, Owens bailed on the match early on which is perfect for his character. Didn't get to show much. He already has his shot on Sunday and he knows that he, or anyone else isn't beating John Cena after a rough triple threat.

Rusev can fuckin hang with anyone though, I think the match showed
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I wouldn't say that, Owens bailed on the match early on which is perfect for his character. Didn't get to show much. He already has his shot on Sunday and he knows that he, or anyone else isn't beating John Cena after a rough triple threat.

Rusev can fuckin hang with anyone though, I think the match showed
I'm just talkin from an overall standpoint. Considering what he's done in a short time, beat up a shitty rapper (the Kelli guy not Cena), almost attacked the commentary team, got a victory over Cena, gotten a lot of TV time.... the crowd was almost dead when his music hit. He completely got out popped by Rusev and then by Cesaro. Then, like I said it may have been just me, he looked like he completely got outshined by Rusev and Cesaro in the ring for the time he was in there. It's not a knock on him by any means (Rusev and Cesaro are genetic freaks of nature and two of my favorite wrestlers) but for the "go home show" before a PPV.... he kinda came of underwhelming to me
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I'm just talkin from an overall standpoint. Considering what he's done in a short time, beat up a shitty rapper (the Kelli guy not Cena), almost attacked the commentary team, got a victory over Cena, gotten a lot of TV time.... the crowd was almost dead when his music hit. He completely got out popped by Rusev and then by Cesaro. Then, like I said it may have been just me, he looked like he completely got outshined by Rusev and Cesaro in the ring for the time he was in there. It's not a knock on him by any means (Rusev and Cesaro are genetic freaks of nature and two of my favorite wrestlers) but for the "go home show" before a PPV.... he kinda came of underwhelming to me
How dare you speak ill (even just a tad) of the internet darling!

I hate Owens. He impressed me the first night on RAW but has been meh ever since.
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Did Rusev kill Dolph? I think I missed something. If he did then hell ya to Rusev being back in action. I hope he drops Summer sooner than later though to keep this emotional roller coaster going.
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I agree with what #1-wwf-fan has said about Wyatt. I had this idea that after he loses to Reigns, he targets Randy Orton with the taunt "You're going to make me better, Randy" so he can eventually take another shot at Reigns down the line.
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It would be really cool if Bray beat Reigns.
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Does Rusev have a match for Battleground yet? Or is it assumed to be Cesaro for their rubber match?
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This man will never be main event material.
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Rusev vs Cesaro would be a good addition with the IC title match off the card. If they decide to end the Cena/Owens feud at Battleground it'd be a good #1 contenders match - though I think Cena/Owens probably concludes at Summerslam.
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Rollins could be money as a babyface down the line.
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I thought he was on the way when The Shield turned face.... He was on fire, and I thought that the fans would rally behind him and much to WWE's chagrin, he would become the breakout face star of the group. He had that high paced, high risk, "controlled frenzy" style akin to Daniel Bryan.
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Lesnar has plenty of momentum. He always does. Over-saturation would kill it. His more sporadic appearances and not having matches constantly work well for WWE's booking.
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He did, but the heel turn made sense from a storyline perspective. Ambrose and Reigns were having clashes of ego and Rollins was the glue holding the group together. When the team got its wins against Evolution, Rollins decided that his best bet was to stop kicking water uphill and join the side with the power, and leave the egos of Ambrose and Reigns to destroy each other.

Perfect. But what hasn't been perfect is the lack of confidence that Rollins conducts himself with. His promos have been good, which people had concerns about, but he did some great work last year putting over his opponenets as "Good...but not on the same level as me good." I don't mind the character showing some vulnerability, but at the end of the day, two things need to be left clear about Seth Rollins:

1) He's very smart.

2) He's very good and knows it.

Why risk enraging his former Shield comrades if he had any doubt he could survive even an organized assault from the two? Why would he cash in on Brock Lesnar knowing full-well that The Beast would be coming for him. That's why I do believe that Seth Rollins should retain the WWE World Heavyweight Title at Battleground. Rollins has to have more of a plan. He's also got to look like he's skilled enough to belong in the same bracket as Lesnar whilst he does it.

I guess there is some drama to be milked in Rollins booking himself into a corner -- but that would imply that the flame is out. For Rollins to be defeated, it would mean that his character has kind of met an end. If this were an HBO show, Rollins would be killed at Battleground and become just a memory of a character that had a few good seasons. If we're really going to be introduced to an iconic member of the show's legacy, however, Seth needs to pull something out of the hat.

In time, that survivalist nature could lend itself to people cheering Rollins. Eventually people will come around and see in Seth Rollins what he has always seen in himself. And he can play the plucky underdog, and his offense is exciting and easy to get behind. I think the best way to test the waters with Seth as a face, in an immediate sense, would be to have Sheamus cash-in on him and try to take his spot as the sponsored Superstar of The Authority. Sheamus calling Seth "little fella" might be enough to get the crowd behind Rollins on its own.

Of course, Rollins would need to prove that he's able to beat Sheamus, but whether they put the title right back onto Rollins or have him screwed out of it and have him walk a longer journey to the follow-up question.

Having Ambrose retain his animosity for Rollins would also make sense, and could also lead to some curious face vs. face matches, or even a heel turn for Ambrose if Rollins picks up enough momentum as a babyface.
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I hope he gets the IC title instead, They did a lot of work building up the US title (where it is now apparantly a better trophy than the WWE title.) Please don't give it to Rusev who is stuck in 50/50 hell.
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