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Love Vito's card so much. Del Rio vs. Cesaro is a perfect choice for a US Title match.
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However, maybe after a year on the shelf, Bryan will be fully healed and ready to have a high impact match. |
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I wanted to see Brock vs. Bryan at last year's WrestleMania, but I feel like the time for it has somewhat passed. I'd rather see Owens vs. Bryan now.
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I've changed my mind on Owens vs. Bryan. I now want to see Owens vs. Ziggler.
* The match will be good, and it will be one of the better IC Title showings at a Mania ever. * The dynamic between Owens and Ziggler -- visually and personality wise -- would create an aesthetic vibe about the match. * Ziggler has never had a one-on-one match at WrestleMania. Ever. A lot of people think that something is missing with him, and you can't quite put your finger on it. Maybe part of that intangible is that he's never been given the nod to actually try and properly steal the big show? I'd have Mick Foley paired up with Ziggler on-air. Not to talk for Dolph, but with him. The two could have some funny interactions together, Foley could put over Ziggler well, and sell Owens. |
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Something I want to float:
Would the idea of Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena for the WWE World Title at WrestleMania 32 disgust everybody? They're the two biggest stars the WWE has access to (not including The Rock). I've liked the idea of the Shield Triple Threat, which I didn't have for the title originally, then I did, now I don't again. Rollins, Reigns & Ambrose will get their moment and have their main events, but I'm not sure if it's meant to be now. I get that you can shove them out there and say "STARS!", but maybe there is more value in using them to pad out the undercard with meaning, then you can re-run the match at a later WrestleMania over the title. Brock beating Rollins and then Cena winning the Rumble sets up that obvious "here are the top two guys fighting for the World Title" match. You'd probably still run Triple H vs. Rock with the Steph/Rousey stuff on the go. The Undertaker will be there. Shield Triple Threat. That Owens vs. Ziggler match. The most anticipated Divas Title match in WWE history. The Night of Champions finish after the SummerSlam destruction of Cena was the last time these two interacted. It doesn't feel fresh, but there's the obvious story of Cena redemption with over 18 months rehab -- and make no mistake about it, they are rehabbing that match. This would probably leave you with something like: WWE World Heavyweight Championship Brock Lesnar (c) vs. John Cena If The Rock wins, Ronda Rousey gets 5 minutes with Stephanie McMahon Triple H vs. The Rock Casket Match The Undertaker vs. Bray Wyatt Triple Threat Match Seth Rollins vs. Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose Divas Championship Sasha Banks (c) vs. Charlotte Intercontinental Championship Kevin Owens (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler WWE Tag Team Championship The New Day (c) vs. The Usos 10-Divas Tag Team Match The Bella Twins, Alicia Fox, Paige & Asuka vs. Trish Stratus, Lita, Becky Lynch, Natalya & Bayley Money in the Bank Ladder Match Sheamus (holder) vs. King Barrett vs. Randy Orton vs. Cesaro vs. Neville vs. Tyler Breeze vs. Chris Jericho United States Championship Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. Samoa Joe Or something like that. |
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I'd feel better about Cena Taker, only because it's maybe the freshest match they could possibly come up with for those two.
Lesnar v Reigns (c)- WHC Cena v Taker Rollins v HHH Ambrose v Jericho Zayn v Owens- IC title Mysterio v Del Rio (c)- US title v mask match The Usos v The New Day (c)-2 on 3 for tag titles Sasha Banks v Charlotte (c)- Divas title The Rock v Bray Wyatt Andre the Giant battle royal- winner receives title match at Extreme Rules |
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I wouldn't really mind Cena-Lesnar if they built it right. My only problem is that they booked it last year as a B-show main event which kills some of the aura that a WrestleMania main event should carry with it. It's the same reason I was against Punk and Cena ever headlining WrestleMania. But if they did a good job of putting focus on the recent history and treating it as a "final showdown" it could work.
I've been thinking about a potential Reigns vs Cena main event just because it would be interesting to see what the crowd does. I don't think it would suffer from the same danger they were in if they went with Batista and Orton at 30 because, unlike with that, the crowd actually DOES care about Cena and Reigns. For better or worse. It would be interesting to see if the crowd gets behind Cena as he's gone a long way toward endearing himself to the smark crowd. Would they actually back Cena as the man who can prevent the birth of the next Cena? Last edited by #1-norm-fan; 11-01-2015 at 11:06 PM. |
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Cena Reigns does sound like an excellent headlining match
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Ideally, I think my preferred main event at the moment would be for Rollins to hold on to the title 'til WrestleMania, Lesnar to win the Rumble and then Reigns to dupe Sheamus into putting his MITB contract on the line somehow and winning it.
Then Reigns uses the case to announce before-hand that he's making the WrestleMania main event a rematch of last year a Rollins isn't gonna be able to sneak his way to a win this time. Maybe even hold the threat of a random cash-in over Rollins' and the authority's heads in order to get Austin put in as the guest ref/enforcer just so there's no chance of any funny business. As much as I don't like Rollins as a WrestleMania headliner and think his reign has been shit, I can't really think of a good marquee matchup for the title and at least this one would tell a good story based on last year. |
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Everything else is sound. I'm not sure if they could get Mysterio back, but the idea had crossed my mind. I'm going back to Del Rio vs. Cesaro. I've changed my mind, and as much as I do sincerely believe that a Samoa Joe Survivor Series debut and undefeated run into WrestleMania could shake things up -- he's either in or past his prime now, why hold back? etc. -- I think you could flesh him out on NXT and advertise him at WrestleMania for RAW the next night. The crowd will still be hot and you can feel like something is starting. Zayn/Owens I'm actually against. Not vehemently, but just on a preference level. I know they could have Zayn return and build it up on WWE TV, but I just feel like it's an "NXT feud." And beyond that, I think it shoots Zayn up above other stars, and I sort of like this idea of a "structure" that doesn't put too many first-timers on at WrestleMania. It's a bit old-school, and it's not something I've got set in stone, but I'd rather see Owens develop a feud with someone currently active, conclude the story with them, then move into a fresh feud with Sami Zayn post-Mania. It starts the new chapter of the wrestling book after Mania closes the old one. Ambrose vs. Jericho could work. I've wanted to see it for a long time. Again, I'm not sure if timing is right, but Heel Jericho vs. Face Ambrose is money as an upper mid-card program. If you're running it, in my opinion, I'd at least suggest the idea of having Zayn cost Owens the IC Title to Ambrose (or at least getting involved somehow), and Jericho vs. Ambrose actually being over the IC Title and Owens/Zayn being more personal. Not sure if it really matters, but it's worth pitching. The only other one that makes me...mmm, is Brock vs. Reigns II as the main event. I'm not against Brock vs. Reigns, per se, but if they run it, I'd like them to have Brock toss Reigns in the Rumble, and Reigns to show some balls by getting his in and tossing Brock. Make it more personal. It kind of gives the subconscious idea that the main event of Mania last year is the semi this year. So much innuendo in there... Good for a macho display of dominance, yeah? |
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Another idea for Brock/Cena is making it Title vs. Career, but that might be telegraphing too much. Cena could even drop a reference to an infamous line when he says "I need to beat you, Brock". Cena could -- hypothetically -- cheat to beat Brock, write him out of storylines, and Reigns could be built as a SummerSlam challenger. Not the current en vogue style of booking, but it could be done. Hypothetically, again. |
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My big emotional gripe is that it leaves Ambrose in the dark. I don't know if I'm being too attached, but I just feel that he should have some presence in whatever it is Reigns and Rollins do together, if it is, in fact, together. I guess Ambrose could get more shine elsewhere on the card and could potentially ride it to challenge or turn heel...but eh. I think I'm just on board with Ambrose vs. Rollins vs. Reigns too much. |
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Put Ambrose with Del Rio instead. Throw Jericho in the Andre the Giant Battle Royale and maybe have Mysterio come in to either save Ambrose after the match or cost Ambrose the match.
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Del Rio vs. Ambrose works.
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Reigns-Cena is a bad idea in front of a Mania crowd. There will be "you both suck" chants.
Hard to imagine Brock not in the mix for the title. Unless they have a part timer working with Lesnar. But Austin was the only outside guy that interested me right now. |
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That's when he explains his actions face to face to Ambrose... "The reason I've done the things I've done to you... is because I respect you. You've got an old soul. One that would have fit in quite well in this business when I was coming up. When it was full of men scratching and clawing their way past each other. But when I look at those guys backstage... they're soft. They're too busy playing video games to take that brass ring. Giving you all the opportunity in the world to leave them in your wake on the way to the top. But instead, you let them bring you down to their level. You became weak. I could have just accepted your offer and helped you against The Wyatts. But where would that leave you? I won't be around forever. And you'd be left weak and fragile. And I respect you too much to watch that happen. So I had to leave you to the wolves. It was the only way. If this new generation is to thrive, it doesn't need another passive, weak gaming nerd who comes begging for help when the odds are against him. It needs another Chris Jericho." When Ambrose goes to respond, Jericho decks him and proceeds to lay a beating on him that borders on non-PG. Maybe even throw him through the Jeri-tron ala HBK or something. Ambrose has to take a couple weeks off but through a in interview with Cole via satellite makes it clear that he'll be ready for WrestleMania. He does a little defense for "his generation" and tells Jericho that at WrestleMania, he's not gonna prove he's the new Chris Jericho. He's gonna prove something much more scary. That he's the first Dean Ambrose. From there, the drama mostly just builds over the next month or two via promos/hype videos and Jericho using other guys to send a message to Ambrose. Everytime Ambrose tries to get at him though, Triple H is sure to send tons of security to stop him since he's not cleared for action until WrestleMania and he doesn't want WWE to be held accountable for what might happen to him. I know Ambrose getting his hands on Jericho the very next week and the two of them trading wins back and forth through a variety of tag matches in the weeks leading up to WrestleMania would be the genius way to go for SOME people here, I feel like my idea is a better way to build heat/anticipation for the match. I DUNNO THO. |
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Will you marry me, Fan? Brilliant booking.
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Seth Rollins (c) vs Roman Reigns vs Dean Ambrose - World Title
Roman Reigns wins with the help of The Authority thus turning heel Brock Lesnar vs Bray Wyatt Lots of backstory with The Undertaker stuff. Would be a killer build up. Wyatt Family helps Bray squeak out a win. The Rock/Ronda Rousey vs Triple H/Stephanie McMahon John Cena vs The Undertaker - Last Match Ever Daniel Bryan vs Kurt Angle Build up is both of them talking about wanting to steal the show. To try to outdo all the past great Wrestlemania moments. Kevin Owens (c) vs Sami Zayn - IC Title Alberto Del Rio (c) vs Samoa Joe - US Title Alberto has an open challenge. Joe debuts and destroys him. The New Day (c) vs Dudley Boyz vs Lucha Dragons vs The Usos - TLC Match Charlotte (c) vs Becky Lynch - Steel Cage Match Andre the Giant Battle Royal - Winner is Money in the Bank - Big Show vs Kane vs Randy Orton vs Dolph Ziggler vs Rusev vs Cesaro vs Neville vs Ryback vs Sheamus vs Wade Barrett vs Stardust vs Jack Swagger vs Mark Henry vs The Miz vs R Truth vs Tyler Breeze vs Zach Ryder vs Damien Sandow vs Bo Dallas vs Curtis Axel |
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Roman Reigns (c) vs The Rock - WHC
The Authorities new face of the WWE goes over the Royal Rumble winner clean HHH vs Seth Rollins Face Rollins over HHH with help from Sting. Feud starts after HHH screws Rollins out of the WHC Brock Lesnar vs Ambrose Brock wins but only just. Match ends with a show of respect from Brock. Feud kicks off when Heyman claims Brocks has beat everyone there is to beat and no one is crazy enough to challenge him - Ambrose of course is crazy enough Undertaker vs John Cena Kevins Owens (c) vs Daniel Bryan - IC Title Owens over Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton Wyatt wins but post match his "monsters" beat him down writing off TV for a while before returning as a face Cesaro vs Alberto Del Rio (c) - US Title After a long chase Cesaro wins the US Title The New Day (c) vs The Usos vs The Dudley Boyz - TLC for the Tag Titles Becky Lynch vs Charlotte (c) vs Sasha Banks - Divas Title Pre - Show Andre the Giant Battle Royal Fatal Four-Way No 1 Contenders Match for the Divas Title |
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Owens over Bryan is another idea I had.
I thought it would be cool if they actually made a storyline about Bryan being cleared by doctors... but not the WWE doctors. Have Triple H try to prevent him from stepping back into the ring because he's not convinced it's safe. After a lot of fighting and maybe even a second "'Yes' movement" Bryan gets a match to reclaim the IC title against Kevin Owens. It seems like it's all leading to a triumphant WrestleMania moment for Bryan... but he loses. And from there you can have Triple H mockingly asking Bryan if he's okay the next night on Raw and basically spending the next few weeks saying "I told you so". This could lead to many possibilities including a feud between Bryan and a newly beefed up "Authority" stable that could keep him very relevant but not necessarily in the title picture. |
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Also, I'd like to place my vote now for broverboard as best new poster. He currently has the best success rate of posts I've ever seen.
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After Mania, and people may not be on board with this, I also had the idea that there would be a segment where Sami Zayn emerges as Owens' next IC Title challenger. Bryan is involved in the segment, and talks about how he laid it all on the line against Owens and came up short. He then turns his attention to Sami Zayn and asks him "Do you really think you can do what I couldn't?" and proceeds to kick the living crap out of an unsuspecting Sami Zayn. Would a Bryan heel turn work? Well, let me at least explain my reasoning for it: * Bryan's babyface style relies on him going balls to the wall. A heel style -- one which he also works fantastically well -- would mean he could throw himself around less and appear more methodical. It might prolong his career by quite a margin. * The best heel turns are the shocking ones. No one sees a Bryan heel turn happening (or working). * If anyone can get cheered against Bryan, it would be someone as likable as Sami Zayn. * It sort of passes the torch to Zayn as the new "We believe in you" guy. * I truly believe that a Daniel Bryan that has let the chip on his shoulder to come back and be the savior he was originally labelled mold him into a deluded maniac could be a really hot gimmick for him. Face Bryan, as beloved as he is, has lost any steam as being "the guy." |
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Bryan vs Owens would be great! In terms of match quality/star power, I'm liking the idea of:
Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Roman Reigns for the WWE title Kevin Owens vs. Daniel Bryan for the Intercontinental title And Brock Lesnar vs. The Rock for the big, mainstream attraction match. |
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Not really fussed about the Rock, but there's really nobody on Lesnar's level, nor anyone that genuinely looks like they could be a threat to Lesnar. Rock has enough star power, and I'd rather see him face Lesnar than Triple H.
Plus, he's fooking massive! If anyone looks like they could kick Lesnar's ass it's the Rock. |
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Yeah I know.
![]() I've gone over this so many times. I have no interest in seeing Triple H at Wrestlemania again. |
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Get some other old man to get his ass kicked by Triple H in his debut match at WM.
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Triple H v Goerge Foreman
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Heh, what good reason could Rousey have for signing up with WWE? Unless maybe when she's old and broken.
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The thought (OBVI) is that it would just be a one match blow off sort of thing so they can say they didn't have her and Rock interrupt HHH & Steph @ WM 31.
But whatever. Like others say, leave "Ravishing" Ronda Rude out of WM 32 altogether, no HHH or Steph in any match, and if they MUST find a way to have Rock on the show, maybe find some way to have him put over one of the up-and-coming guys without having to necessarily wrestle them. |
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On the subject of booking Wrestlemania, is it safe to assume Orton and Rusev will be absent. Slowly piecing together my (realistic) fantasy card. Oron and Rusev being injured gives me two less people to worry about.
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Fair enough. Rock looks like he could probably kill Balor.
Gonna hold off any fantasy booking Balor until next years Mania. His entrance would be incredible, but would be wasted if they did it at WM32 already. |
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Orton could be out 4 to 6 months I heard. Vould be back just in time for Mania, he's been 12 straight Manias so if he can I'd imagine he would. Don't know anything about Rusev though.
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