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Old 09-25-2009, 03:38 PM   #121
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:46 PM   #122
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I'm going to say this again.

By all fighting logic Roy Nelson should destroy Kimbo Slice.

People who are saying that Kimbo wouldn't be on the talk show circut if he lost in the first round, are mistaken. I'm sure Kimbo is getting paid to be on The Ultimate Fighter, and part of them paying him is him being obligated to do press for the UFC. So reguardless of if he got knocked out in the third fight or if he made it to the finale he's probably contractually obligated to do the press tour.
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I'll tell you right now, i KNOW Kimbo will put up a better fight than the last two dudes Rampage put in there.
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Wes can be a solid fighter if he gets his cardio up
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I'll tell you right now, i KNOW Kimbo will put up a better fight than the last two dudes Rampage put in there.
I would put up a better a fight then those 2.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:18 PM   #127
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:50 PM   #129
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holy crap that was probably the most fucking shit fight i have ever seen. shivers was fucking useless and dead within half a round, and that other tit was going in with flying kicks and giving away his back loads and had pretty shite stamina too. worst of all those was the way the lanky fella was there for the taking about 6 fucking times and instead of capitalizing mcsweeney steps back for a breather, disgusting.

honestly thought mcsweeney would be good when i saw him doing padwork, he has good speed and technique but it's obvious his head isn't there when it actually comes to fighting. when they showed the stats before the fight and i saw he was 3-3 alarm bells started ringing.

i can't believe they even get the chance to compete for a UFC contract with stamina that bad and such an absolute lack of desire. it makes a mockery of the whole ultimate fighter show tbh.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:03 PM   #131
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to be fair to shivers, when your built like him at his size, it is very hard to have good cardio. Look at bob sapp. When you have all that muscle and mass to pump blood too, your body just isnt capable of getting oxygen to where it needs to go if your that big.
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yeah i accept that but really he was fucked within 2 minutes. there isn't a chance of him lasting 5 5 minute rounds, to be honest i doubt he'd last 1 with anyone of skill.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:20 PM   #133
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ANOTHER THING. i mean really if you can't make it outside of one round without gassing i think you need to look at another sport. i think almost anyone in the know would agree that MMA is probably the most cardio intensive sport going at the moment. i wouldn't ever go into an MMA fight without being at the fittest i had ever been.
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Old 09-28-2009, 11:21 PM   #134
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Yea totally... but thats why theres such a huge drop off from the elite to everyone else.
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:34 AM   #135
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ANOTHER THING. i mean really if you can't make it outside of one round without gassing i think you need to look at another sport. i think almost anyone in the know would agree that MMA is probably the most cardio intensive sport going at the moment.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:57 PM   #142
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I'm going to say this again.

By all fighting logic Roy Nelson should destroy Kimbo Slice.
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:59 PM   #143
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You said "destroy". Roy didn't destroy him.
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You said "destroy". Roy didn't destroy him.
Alright, fair enough. He didn't "destroy" him. But he made Kimbo look like a vastly inferior fighter.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:03 PM   #145
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Roy is a bitch.

I missed the preview for next week is kimbo possible for fighting?
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:07 PM   #146
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Yeah they are making it seem like Kimbo could be fighting again because that big black guy collapses.

I don't know. All this talk of Nelson and the performance he put on was not impressive. If Kimbo lost it wasn't gonna be anything new and we've already seen what kind of fighter he was in his last fight and he hasn't really trained that much between then but if he improves he could really be something. If he had good take down defense or could have gotten himself free at will then I believe he could have knocked Nelson out or at least win by decision.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:12 PM   #147
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I understand why that was stopped, but it didn't look like Kimbo was hurt at all?
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:27 PM   #150
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Man I was hoping Kimbo would beat the odds. Dude needs to just drill takedown defense and escaping from the bottom for the rest of the time he is on the show. If he can keep a fight up on the feet I don't see anyone giving him problems. It looked like he had Roy in trouble before the takedown, but Roy was just too experienced and knew exactly what to do.

I really didn't like the way the fight ended. Everyone could see those shots where not hurting Kimbo at all, but Kimbo couldn't defend himself properly so what can you do? Thought we would see some kind of submission from Roy, but whatever gets you the W works I guess.

Hope Kimbo gets another chance sometime before the show ends.
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #151
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Dude really needs some takedown defense, or escapes. Thought he had Country after he tagged him a couple times
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Old 09-30-2009, 11:35 PM   #152
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Really hope Roy Nelson gets the shit knocked out of him. Cannot stand the fat fuck.
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:08 AM   #154
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I forgot to say that Rampage was simply brillant tonight. From him making fun of McSweeney's accent to the talking head of him just going to town on Roy. How do you get the Moon off of you? lmao.
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Rules are rules I guess but that was mad dumb. Can't blame the dude for doing it though. He even said it during the show, if you continually punch someone (hard or not) and there's no response they gotta stop it.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:16 AM   #156
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I disagree with the whole " he need takedown defense stuff " yah he can be better, but he showed a few things. 1st round he got parked up against the fence and Nelson was trying to get him down, but Kimbo showed some really nice wrist control. He didnt let Roy Nelson get his sencond hand around him. Eventually Nelson got him down, but ultimately Kimbo's wrist control saved him from getting TKO'ed the first round because by the time Nelson locked his arms to the ground and started pounding him, the round was over.

Kimbo does need better ground defense, but consider this...BJ Penn got put into the same position and got pounded out by Hughes. And you can say " well Hughes is so much better then Nelson on the ground ", but you can also say " BJ Penn is one of the greatest ground technicians in the game ". So either way. Kimbo has some work to do.

I personally dont think Kimbo has a major future in MMA, but who knows. I was put off by Nelson's arrogance after the fight.
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Nelsons a fatty who thinks he's better than he is. He's decent at best, but because he beat Kimbo, he acted like he just won the heavyweight championship via girlie punches in a crucifix. It was a bitch win, plain and simple.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:28 AM   #158
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Did what he needed to do, I'm pretty sure he doesn't care what we think.

I was impressed by Kimbo's stand up, it actually looked reasonably crisp, but obviously as soon as it hit the ground he was lost.

He looked like a legit tough dude in there, once he gets a semblance of takedown d, he could be a legit banger in the heavyweight division. Put him against someone else who likes to brawl and you've got yourself marketable fights and that's all anyone can want from Kimbo at this point.
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heard a rumour he got beat in the first fight though
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The punches were weak, but I think the position was more devastating than anything else. Kimbo was more or less defenseless, and had no answer for Crucifix position. At that point, it doesn't really matter how hard you hit.
As for Dana's bitching, well, I also agreed with what he had to say after the Shivers-McSweeney fight. Oh yeah... he didn't say SHIT about that abomination. Hey, at least Roy ended the fight.Also, the after fight thing, I thought it was more about him joking about how fat he was, which he and Dana did BEFORE the fight. Dana also laughed about the whole Double Whopper thing at the time. He only talked shit AFTER the fight, during the commentary.

Seriously, out of the three people who have fought and lost, Kimbo will get a second shot. Abe probably won't get cleared after the cut and Shivers looked like the drizzling shit.
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