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Old 07-23-2006, 03:30 PM   #1761
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Old 07-23-2006, 03:37 PM   #1762
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What happened to Liriano? He left after 5, i'm having to follow the games on mlb.com gameday so i've no idea whats actually happening there.
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I think his pitch count was getting up there, in the 90's I believe.
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95, still woulda thought they'd put him out for the 6th as well :\
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Pelfrey was damn impressive the first few innings today, shame he fell apart.

Kinda had a bad feeling about today. Though seeing Delgado hit an absolute SHOT was awesome.

I can't wait to see the Aaron Heilman screwup on replay. For those who didn't see, there was a man on 3rd and 2 outs, routine grounder to Heilman, and for some reason he decided to nonchalantly jog to 1st instead of toss it to Delgado, and Burke beat him to the bag, run scores.

From what I hear, the ump blew the call but I dunno. Didn't get a real good view of the play at the stadium and they didn't show replays. Still, I can't forgive Heilman for putting himself in that situation anyway.
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LOL at Beltre striking out after swinging at a pitch after it touched the ground.

7-7 game right now though
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Old 07-23-2006, 07:08 PM   #1767
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Great, the team with the best fielding pct. in baseball just made 2 errors in one play for Beltre to run all the way home.

I can understand Crisp misplaying where the ball was gonna hit the wall (even though he REALLY misplayed it) cause the sun was in his eyes, but then Manny picks it up barehanded and bobbles it. Had he not bobbled it we would have been able to at least hold Beltre at 3rd.
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I'm glad Gardy took Liriano out today. I wasn't watching the game, but we've really got to be careful about over-using him. I was surprised that they left him in for 8.2 even though the Twins had like a 8-0 lead over the Devil Rays, but I guess the Twins have a pretty good history of knowing how to develop pitchers, so meh.
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:16 PM   #1769
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Old 07-24-2006, 09:41 AM   #1770
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Toronto is at Seattle next. Back a couple months ago I had begun plans to go down and see these games. More wishful thinking than anything. I would have called out the Miz to meet up.
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I'm not in Seattle right now, but tell me next time you want to come down here for some games
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ESPN reporting CWS are close to acquiring Soriano from WAS with Brandon McCarthy going the other way, and Mike McDougal from KC for an AA pitcher.
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This deal is official:

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Old 07-24-2006, 04:19 PM   #1776
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ESPN reporting CWS are close to acquiring Soriano from WAS with Brandon McCarthy going the other way, and Mike McDougal from KC for an AA pitcher.
Both deals could be announced as early as tonight.
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Awful deal for Chicago IMO. You don't trade an elite SP prospect for a slugger when you have the best offense in the league and pitching is your problem

I like the MacDougal deal though
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Awful deal for Chicago IMO. You don't trade an elite SP prospect for a slugger when you have the best offense in the league and pitching is your problem

I like the MacDougal deal though
I feel the same way actually. I really would hate to see BMac go.
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:00 PM   #1779
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Right, any website gunna give me baseball highlights that go back to last Thursday, I need to see my boys beating the Yankees.

Also, is www.mlb.com the best place to go for Baseball news or can someone point me to a better site. Anything but Sky Sports news, it only updated today for the Fri-Sun results.
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:03 PM   #1780
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I go to CBSSportsline.com a lot, but for all sports not just baseball. Probably a better baseball specific site out there I guess
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:07 PM   #1781
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Where do you watch coverage if you miss a game on TV. Bollocks to staying up till 5am Sunday with work the next day. There must be websites with loads of footage
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:13 PM   #1782
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Use ESPN, MLB, or CBSSportsline for game recaps and play by play. For footage, I dunno, if you go to the official Toronto website on MLB.com they'll have like a 45 second highlight clip for each game but other than that Ionno
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Old 07-24-2006, 05:15 PM   #1783
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White Sox get:
RP Mike MacDougal

Royals get:
RP Tyler Lumdsen (AA)
SP David Cortes (A)

Now a done deal. Love it for the White Sox. Don't know much about the two prospects, but I suspect the Royals could've done a little better. They have the right idea at least
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Yeah I saw the clip on Torontos site but thats not nearly enough, I watched games for 4 1/2 hours, it cannot be compressed into 45 fucking seconds . Will try out those other sites for news though, cheers.
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Finally a decent trade.
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Yeah I think it is kind of tough to get clips of full games and things like that since they actually want people to watch them on TV and not on the internet. I dunno if you can MLBTV over there? You pay a certain amount and you can watch any game going on on the internet, I'd assume they'd have replays that you could watch. I dunno if you can get it outside of the US though, but I don't see why not.
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ou Yeah its available outside the US. So worth it if you're a huge baseball fan. $80 bucks for every single game the whole season. Seen like 93 Mariners games this year
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I was gonna go for the MLBTV thing but having no money was spanner to my plans, may well go for it next year though as a graduation treat

I've found it harder to get hold of highlight clips this year, i think on mlb.com you need to subscribe to see most stuff now
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55 quid eh, I'm guessing theres not much choice of what game you watch, you just get what your given yeah?

Also, any good sites to learn about how good players are, as I have no fucking idea right now, all I know is I likes what I've seen from the Blue Jays, probably don't know anyone outside of them to be honest.
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I think the best way to learn about who the good players are is to play fantasy baseball. Kinda late for that though.
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55 quid eh, I'm guessing theres not much choice of what game you watch, you just get what your given yeah?

Also, any good sites to learn about how good players are, as I have no fucking idea right now, all I know is I likes what I've seen from the Blue Jays, probably don't know anyone outside of them to be honest.
http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analy...ue=fantasy/mlb

Brandon Funston isn't the brightest guy but he has a list of the top 50 players in fantasy. The only problem is fantasy doesn't count things like defense, team chemistry and undervalues middle relief, but lists like that are a pretty good place to start for the best players out there today.
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These are more or less the "elite" players to get you started

Albert Pujols
Alex Rodriguez
Vladimir Guerrero
Ichiro Suzuki
Manny Ramirez
David Ortiz
Jim Thome
Miguel Cabrera
Travis Hafner
Miguel Tejada
Johnny Damon
Derrek Lee
Michael Young
Paul Konerko
Carlos Beltran
Carlos Delgado
Jason Giambi
Vernon Wells
Andruw Jones
Bobby Abreu
Carlos Lee
Jason Bay
Joe Mauer

Johan Santana
Pedro Martinez
Francisco Liriano
Barry Zito
Roger Clemens
Curt Schilling
Roy Halladay
Carlos Zambrano
Jose Contreras
Chris Carpenter
Andy Pettitte
Jason Schmidt
Gil Meche
Mariano Rivera
BJ Ryan

Dunno, left off a bunch of guys prolly
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Old 07-24-2006, 07:38 PM   #1795
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I'm gonna list guys who are sort of the "faces" of each franchise.

AL East
1) Boston Red Sox: David Ortiz (1B/DH), Manny Ramirez (LF), Curt Schilling (SP), Jonathan Papelbon (CL), Jason Varitek (C), Josh Beckett (SP)

2) New York Yankees: Derek Jeter (SS), Alex Rodriguez (3B), Mariano Rivera (CL), Jason Giambi (1B/DH), Johnny Damon (CF), Mike Mussina (SP)

3) Toronto Blue Jays: Vernon Wells (CF), Roy Halladay (SP), Alex Rios (RF), BJ Ryan (CL), Troy Glaus (3B)

4) Baltimore Orioles: Miguel Tejada (SS), Melvin Mora (3B), Chris Ray (CL), Erik Bedard (SP)

5) Tampa Bay Devil Rays: Carl Crawford (LF), Scott Kazmir (SP), Jorge Cantu (2B), Johnny Gomes (DH)

AL Central:
1) Detroit Tigers: Justin Verlander (SP), Jeremy Bonderman (SP), Joel Zumaya (RP), Magglio Ordonez (RF), Ivan Rodriguez (C)

2) Chicago White Sox: Jim Thome (1B/DH), Tadahito Iguchi (2B), Joe Crede (3B), Mark Buehrle (SP), Bobby Jenks (CL), Jermaine Dye (RF)

3) Minnesota Twins: Torri Hunter (CF), Francisco Liriano (SP), Johan Santana (SP), Joe Nathan (CL), Justin Morneau (1B)

4) Cleveland Indians: Travis Hafner (DH), Grady Sizemore (CF), Victor Martinez (C/1B), CC Sabathia (SP), Jhonny Peralta (SS)

5) Kansas City Royals: N/A

AL West
1) Oakland Athletics: Rich Harden (SP), Barry Zito (SP), Nick Swisher (1B), Bobby Crosby (SS), Frank Thomas (DH), Huston Street (CL)

2) Texas Rangers: Michael Young (SS), Mark Teixiera (1B), Gary Matthews Jr. (CF), Akiori Otsuka (CL), Hank Blalock (3B)

3) Los Angeles Angels Of Anaheim: Vladimir Guererro (RF), Bartolo Colon (SP), Jered Weaver (SP), John Lackey (SP), Francisco Rodriguez (CL)

4) Seattle Mariners: Ichiro Suzuki (RF), Raul Ibanez (LF), Richie Sexson (1B), Kenji Johjima (C), Gil Meche (SP), JJ Putz (RP)

NL East:
1) New York Mets: David Wright (3B), Jose Reyes (SS) Carlos Beltran (CF), Pedro Martinez (SP), Billy Wagner (CL), Carlos Delgado (1B)

2) Atlanta Braves: Chipper Jones (3B), Andruw Jones (CF), John Smoltz (SP), Brian McCann (C), Edgar Renteria (SS)

3) Florida Marlins: Miguel Cabrera (3B), Dontrelle Willis (SP), Dan Uggla (2B), Hanley Ramirez (SS), Mike Jacobs (1B)

4) Philidelphia Phillies: Jimmy Rollins (SS), Ryan Howard (1B), Chase Utley (2B), Bobby Abreu (RF), Aaron Rowand (CF), Tom Gordon (CL), Brett Myers (SP)

5) Washington Nationals: Alfonso Soriano (LF), Nick Johnson (1B), Jose Vidro (2B), Chad Cordero (CL)

NL Central
1) St. Louis Cardinals: Albert Pujols (1B), Chris Carpenter (SP), Jim Edmonds (CF), Scott Rolen (3B), Jason Isringhausen (CL)

2) Cincinatti Reds: Adam Dunn (LF), Ken Griffey Jr. (CF), Ryan Freel (Utl), Aaron Harrang (SP), Bronson Arroyo (SP)

3) Houston Astros: Roger Clemens (SP), Roy Oswalt (SP), Lance Berkman (1B), Craig Biggio (2B), Brad Lidge (CL), Aubrey Huff (3B)

4) Chicago Cubs: Derek Lee (1B), Mark Prior (SP), Juan Pierre (CF), Aramis Ramirez (3B), Greg Maddux (SP), Kerry Wood (SP)

5) Pittsburgh Pirates: Jason Bay (RF), Jose Castillo (2B), Sean Casey (1B), Freddy Sanchez (SS)

NL West
1) San Diego Padres: Trevor Hoffman (CL), Jake Peavy (SP), Chris Young (SP), Brian Giles (RF), Mike Piazza (C)

2) San Francisco Giants: Barry Bonds (LF), Jason Schmidt (SP), Moises Alou (RF), Omar Vizquel (SS)

3) Arizona Diamondbacks: Brandon Webb (SP), Chad Tracy (3B), Jorge Julio (CL), Orlando Hudson (2B)

4) Los Angeles Dodgers: Nomar Garciaparra (1B), Brad Penny (SP), JD Drew (RF), Jeff Kent (2B), Eric Gagne (CL, injured),

5) Colorado Rockies: Matt Holiday (LF), Todd Helton (1B), Jason Jennings (SP), Brian Fuentes (CL), Brad Hawpe (RF)

If you know about those players you should be pretty good.
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Yeah, that list is better. LOL @ "N/A"
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Yeah I saw the clip on Torontos site but thats not nearly enough, I watched games for 4 1/2 hours, it cannot be compressed into 45 fucking seconds . Will try out those other sites for news though, cheers.
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get mlb.tv, you can watch any game that is not broadcast on national tv which is most,

and you get east access to every game from the last 2 seasons.
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3) Minnesota Twins: Torri Hunter (CF), Francisco Liriano (SP), Johan Santana (SP), Joe Nathan (CL), Justin Morneau (1B)
hey I forgot who is leading MLB in batting average?
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3) Arizona Diamondbacks: Brandon Webb (SP), Chad Tracy (3B), Jorge Julio (CL), Orlando Hudson (2B)
I really hate to nit pick this, since you just did it to be nice, but Julio has been their closer for 3 weeks. Luis Gonzalez has been the main bat in the Arizona lineup since at least 2000. I mean, since he got off roids he's terrible, but I feel he is really the face of the D'Backs.
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Making a list like this is pretty impossible. Renteria is not a face of the Braves franchise. Not as much as Francouer, who is known around the league for swinging at every pitch ever and having one of the best throwing arms from the outfield. He's a Georgia boy too.
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