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Old 12-14-2012, 12:58 PM   #161
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Nah, Sandow is the goods. He can go in the ring, too.
So could the Genius...
So could the Genius 2.0 (aka Dean Douglas)
So could the Genius 3.0 (aka Matt Stryker)
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:00 PM   #162
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Sandow is better on the mic than all three of those. The voice helps obviously but his promos actually have content.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:00 PM   #163
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Maybe I was just too young to appreciate it, but I never saw Lanny Poffo have an awesome match. I remember him more as a manager than anything.

I wouldn't call Dean Douglas the Genius 2.0, either. Not really the same gimmick, him being portrayed as an ACTUAL teacher and all. Matt Striker was pretty much Dean Douglas 2.0, though.

Either way, no reason to nay-say. Sandow is pretty fucking good.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:02 PM   #164
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Ol' Booger Red Undertaker was his best work.

The only Ric Flair matches I ever enjoyed were with Randy Savage at Wrestlemania 8 and with HBK at Wrestlemania 24.

Alberto Del Rio deserves a lengthy title run. He's never had a great story to work with.

Edge was never very entertaining outside of his tag team with Christian.

Skip Sheffield in Nexus was more bad ass than Ryback.

Jack Swagger's World title run was one of my personal favorites ever.

TNA is really fucking good right now.
Swagger cut some killer promos. He was just booked horrendously
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:09 PM   #165
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I never enjoyed Stone Cold Steve Austin as a face.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:12 PM   #166
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I agree, never did either.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:13 PM   #167
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I never enjoyed Stone Cold Steve Austin as a face.
He was never meant to be face. The turn in the crowds cheering for the bad guys and booing the good guys is what made him face. This is a pinnacle of when the wrestling fan dynamic of the business changed in the mide to late 90's. It was taboo and over the hill to cheer the guy with the big muscles that told you to say your prayers and eat your vitamins. Families stopped coming to wrestling events and the working class guys and gals who could relate with Austin's anti corporate, march to the beat of your own drum gimmick is why he started getting cheered. Hence Bret Hart being so pissed off at WM in their submission match when he got booed out the building and Austin was getting standing ovations.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:29 PM   #168
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I agree with everyone who's said AJ is not hot. Also I never hear anyone praise Aksana whilst I find her possibly one of the most incredible women to have been in WWE.

I find Christian so dull and can't stand most of his matches.

I don't really care for having an established tag team division.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:58 PM   #169
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Triple H was significantly better than Shawn Michaels.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:17 PM   #170
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I agree with everyone who's said AJ is not hot. Also I never hear anyone praise Aksana whilst I find her possibly one of the most incredible women to have been in WWE.

I find Christian so dull and can't stand most of his matches.

I don't really care for having an established tag team division.
It's her hair

Face Christian is awful

I don't get how people say tag wrestling draws. It's just a nice compliment, although I do enjoy tag wrestling
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:52 PM   #171
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I don't have any statistics to back it, but I feel like the Hardy Boyz were a draw.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:12 PM   #172
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I don't have any statistics to back it, but I feel like the Hardy Boyz were a draw.
The Hardys were not the type that did guest shots on USA shows or make appearance on Fallon and Conan but people knew them. It's anecdotal but I've dated women who did not know or watch wrestling but they knew the Hardy Boys for one reason or another. I think their style and risks made them accessible to the mainstream in one form or another.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:26 PM   #173
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I agree with everyone who's said AJ is not hot. Also I never hear anyone praise Aksana whilst I find her possibly one of the most incredible women to have been in WWE.

I find Christian so dull and can't stand most of his matches.

I don't really care for having an established tag team division.
Yeah, Aksana had a unique look for a WWE Diva with her catsuit and saxophone theme.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:46 PM   #174
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Sadly while I am enjoying "The Attitude Era" DVD I also find myself critiquing things I once found so awesome.
Yep, don't get me wrong, I did *enjoy* a good percentage of what happened, but it's like has been said before, I think maybe on this board, The Attitude Era really aged badly.

For every HHH/Rock ladder match we got The Oddities, for every 'DX invades WCW' we got Mae Young and Mark Henry, and for every Lita/Trish we got Patterson vs. Briscoe in an evening gown match.

No era of pro wrestling was ever perfect, but I think people tend to look at that particular period like it was the everlasting epitome of awesome, when it was anything but.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:42 AM   #175
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I thought The Oddities and the Patterson/Brisco feud were hilarious and entertaining.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:43 AM   #176
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If it wasn't for The Oddities, I'd argue ICP has no purpose on Earth and should have been killed ages ago.
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Old 12-15-2012, 04:51 PM   #177
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I found the short-lived Juniors Division on SmackDown! amusing.

Worse, I still think that.
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Old 12-15-2012, 05:36 PM   #178
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I found the short-lived Juniors Division on SmackDown! amusing.

Worse, I still think that.
I found it amusing too, so you ain't alone.
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:17 AM   #179
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Here's a few from me.

I don't find AJ attractive at all.
I like Cena and I think he's at his best when he's not in the title hunt.
I think Bret Hart is a bit on the overratted side.
A part of me doesn't want to see another Attitude Era.
I think Jack Swagger should get another World Heavyweight Championship run.
Ryback is getting a bit stale to me.
Del Rio is slowly beginning to bore me.
As much as I love Wade Barrett, a part of me doesn't want to see him as WWE/World Heavyweight Champion for unknown reasons.
I agree with a surprisingly lot of these. Especially the Wade Barrett bit. I can't put my finger on what it is, but I just don't want to see him as champion yet. Would love to see him take the IC Title from Kofi again, though.
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If it wasn't for The Oddities, I'd argue ICP has no purpose on Earth and should have been killed ages ago.
They were outstanding in WCW and they keep Sabu employed
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Sabu is also vastly under rated, guy was innovative as fuck in the 90s, even with all the botches.
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Ol' Booger Red Undertaker was his best work.

The only Ric Flair matches I ever enjoyed were with Randy Savage at Wrestlemania 8 and with HBK at Wrestlemania 24.

Alberto Del Rio deserves a lengthy title run. He's never had a great story to work with.

Edge was never very entertaining outside of his tag team with Christian.

Skip Sheffield in Nexus was more bad ass than Ryback.

Jack Swagger's World title run was one of my personal favorites ever.

TNA is really fucking good right now.
Another post I almost completely support.

I think Swagger should have been World Champion for much longer than he was, and probably should have held the title until Survivor Series at the earliest. And even then, I don't know if he should have lost it. He was tremendous, a breath of fresh air and just needed to be pushed as a guy who could back up his spot.

Also, as much as I am sure the man behind the character is hard working, dedicated, appreciates the business and is truly a worthy person of the spot he is in -- I just cannot get behind Ryback. I find him boring, 2D and I just can't buy into it. As Skip Sheffield, I totally got behind the dude.
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Can't say enough good about Jack Swagger's World Title reign. I also think that he should have won the Breakout Battle Royal and gone against John Cena at TLC in 2009, and beaten Cena there and become WWE Champion. And that Swagger's cash-in should have happened at WrestleMania. Jack Swagger would have then been the first man to have been WWE, World Heavyweight and ECW Champion, and I think it would have been a great bragging right for him.

Also, does it seem to anyone else that the WWE sort of embraced that they were presenting Swagger as a Kurt Angle clone, and then stepped away from it, before stepping back into it again?
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Here's one I've been saying for a while: Dolph Ziggler isn't World Champ material.
Kind of agree with this, although I do love Ziggler. I think he can be World Champ material, but right now he's just not someone I want to see with the belt.
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I haven't watched it in some time, so I'm not sure if my tastes have changed, but I feel that Billy Kidman vs. Paul London from No Mercy 2004 is one of the best professional matches I have ever seen. Seriously.





I say this as a big Paul London mark, but as someone who never really got into Kidman. I recognise that was always pretty good, but just never marked out for him like I do other guys.
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:48 AM   #186
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:32 AM   #187
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:34 AM   #188
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:35 AM   #189
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Can't say enough good about Jack Swagger's World Title reign.
lol. It's almost a joke that people praise it so much now while saying how crazy of a concept it is to have had enjoyed it.

It was Smackdown. There wasn't a lot of stock put into it. But it wasn't really anything special and it didn't get Swagger or the title over. There were some unique moments that came from it. It just didn't serve much of a purpose.
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Old 12-16-2012, 07:37 AM   #190
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David Arquette was a talented and deserving champion.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:44 PM   #191
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:15 PM   #192
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:58 PM   #193
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:13 PM   #194
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I don't get why Christian is praised.... or Swagger. I find them both boring as hell.

I find Edge to be overrated and never could consider him a legit world champ.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:25 PM   #195
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lol. It's almost a joke that people praise it so much now while saying how crazy of a concept it is to have had enjoyed it.

It was Smackdown. There wasn't a lot of stock put into it. But it wasn't really anything special and it didn't get Swagger or the title over. There were some unique moments that came from it. It just didn't serve much of a purpose.
Yeah they didn't serve much of a purpose but they were still entertaining moments.

I mean, who could forget the best part of Swagger's title run?

SPOILER: show
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:27 PM   #196
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Also, I said that Del Rio was slowly beginning to bore me.

Since his face turn at TLC, I'm interested in seeing where he goes. Though hopefully it's away from 6 man tag matches with The Miz and "mystery guest".
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:48 AM   #197
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I think Survivor Series is a less important ppv than MITB.
I generally can't stand WWE from the time period after SummerSlam until the Royal Rumble/WM build begins.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:53 AM   #198
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Backlash was always better than Rasslemania
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:24 AM   #199
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*fistbump* That's so true. It's the same with Extreme Rules as well.

I also think Ziggler's overrated.
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:32 AM   #200
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Attitude era main events were shit, they were basically boxing matches

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