The Official 2004-2005 NBA Season Thread - Page 5

**Kid Robb** · 01-22-2005, 04:44 AM

Ginobli

Haven't seen a game like that where 3 guys just don't seem to be missing, Manu, Marion and Amare.

**FacelessBum** · 01-22-2005, 12:05 PM

ROFL BCWWF

Getting all excited to see the Suns falter like they did.

The thing about the way the Suns play is that they are going to get too tired too fast.

It doesnt matter if it's a young team, the year will drag on and the nights will get longer.

Anyway, Spurs are the man and I wish I could've seen the game.

(Went to a local hockey game to watch the team LOSE in sudden death)

**BCWWF** · 01-22-2005, 01:03 PM

The Spurs are the only team in the NBA that will be able to beat the Suns on a consistant level. Even if the Suns won last night I still think I would be saying that. They are too solid and consistant. The Suns could take any other team in a 7 game series, be it the Heat, the Mavericks, the Sonics, whoever. If they can figure out how to work Barbosa into the lineup or else trade and get a spark plug off the bench they cuold have a chance at the Spurs.

**The Miz** · 01-22-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BCWWF

The Spurs are the only team in the NBA that will be able to beat the Suns on a consistant level. Even if the Suns won last night I still think I would be saying that. They are too solid and consistant. The Suns could take any other team in a 7 game series, be it the Heat, the Mavericks, the Sonics, whoever. If they can figure out how to work Barbosa into the lineup or else trade and get a spark plug off the bench they cuold have a chance at the Spurs.

Wow. I can't wait till June so I can quote this.

The Suns can't play consistently like this for 81+ games. They don't play defense and they are going to be exhausted down the stretch. And past the starting 5, who do they have? Steven Hunter? Bo Outlaw? They simply dont compare in terms of depth with teams like Seattle, San Antonio, etc. The Suns have no one to come off the bench in the playoffs when Steve Nash and Amare Staudamire are incapable of standing up. Really, have you watched the Dallas Mavericks the last 4 years? Fun in the regular season, doesnt translate to championships.

**BCWWF** · 01-23-2005, 02:31 AM

I don't know if KG is struggling or playing more as a teammate or what, but his numbers have seemed low the past few games. In the meantime Eddie Griffin has been coming up huge on the boards and blocks and stuff. I can't imagine KG becoming less selfish then he already is, I guess now a distinguished forward with him is taking the pressure off. Now just to get rid of Olowokandi

**The Outlaw** · 01-23-2005, 02:38 AM

They now have Jim Jackson. He should be a spark off the bench actually.

**DaveWadding** · 01-23-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Outlaw

They now have Jim Jackson. He should be a spark off the bench actually.

We dumped off Jacobsen though, I really liked him. Great touch from the perimeter.

**BCWWF** · 01-23-2005, 04:31 AM

It is being reported that the Suns are trying to unload Joe Johnson in an effort to bring in Sameul Dalembert. Am I the only one who thinks that idea is awful? Johnson has been a key part of their success thus far, he is the top three point shooter in the league this season and the Suns live on the three point shot. If they are going to go after a guy like that, they just need to give up a draft pick and a guy that is expiring after the season, like Bo Outlaw. Samuel Dalembert backing up Amare with Barbosa or something starting instead of JJ is awful. If they want to trade Joe Johnson, why not for Shareef? That would make sense, more Marion back to SF or something. I am trying to think of a better backup to Amare that wouldn't require trading a starter...Joe Smith? Lorenzen Wright or Stromile Swift? Lee Nailon? Olowokandi? Ratliff? I dunno, just don't give up Joe Johnson for Samuel Dalembert PLEASE!

**The Icon of Elisim** · 01-23-2005, 01:22 PM

Dalembert is good because he is a big guy who can move and thus fits into their offensive system. Shareef would slow down the team considerably. Swift would be a great addition but they don't have the players to acquire him.

And these guys are right. The Suns won't go far in the playoffs. Q and Nash have bad backs and obviously they can't play without Nash. Plus the depth factor is huge and the fact that they won't see a really good half court defense until the playoffs

**BCWWF** · 01-23-2005, 03:29 PM

If Nash goes down, after last week it really is quite obvious that the Suns are done. Q would hurt a lot, but obviously not as much as Nash. If they go into the playoffs shorthanded like that then I can see them losing in the first round to the Lakers or something. If it works out where they come into the playoffs with their starting 5 healthy though, I don't see a team that can stop them besides the Spurs.

The Mavericks are just a poor mans Suns in my opinion.

The Kings are old, fragile, and overrated in my opinion.

The Timberwolves don't have any drive this year

The Sonics are too inexperienced and I expect them to break down, not completely, but I don't see them holding strong into the playoffs.

The Lakers will get there but they don't have the talent to go anywhere

The Rockets just don't seem to have the edge that it takes to win big games in the playoffs

I think that the Spurs will pretty much roll through the playoffs because they are so consistant and good on defense. I think that the West is still as a whole much stronger then the East, but the Spurs and Suns are the only two elite teams, before there were like four even five elite teams in the West. I don't think any team but the Spurs can hold of a healthy Suns.

**RoXer** · 01-23-2005, 03:58 PM

Suns want to get rid of Joe Johnson because he is going to ask for a zillion dollars next year. Q can fill his spot. Hunter can take center. Everything will be hunky-dory.

People who make predictions piss me off though. Suddenly they are "pshycic". What they don't know is that they are annoying and need to shut up. That's why I usually stay out of threads like this. I don't want to be told how to root for my team.

**BCWWF** · 01-23-2005, 04:05 PM

I guarantee you that taking away one of Phoenix's three point threats and adding Hunter into the mix will do nothing but hurt them. One of the reasons they are so successful now is because they can kick it out and have four well above average three point shooters.

**The Outlaw** · 01-23-2005, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

It is being reported that the Suns are trying to unload Joe Johnson in an effort to bring in Sameul Dalembert. Am I the only one who thinks that idea is awful? Johnson has been a key part of their success thus far, he is the top three point shooter in the league this season and the Suns live on the three point shot. If they are going to go after a guy like that, they just need to give up a draft pick and a guy that is expiring after the season, like Bo Outlaw. Samuel Dalembert backing up Amare with Barbosa or something starting instead of JJ is awful. If they want to trade Joe Johnson, why not for Shareef? That would make sense, more Marion back to SF or something. I am trying to think of a better backup to Amare that wouldn't require trading a starter...Joe Smith? Lorenzen Wright or Stromile Swift? Lee Nailon? Olowokandi? Ratliff? I dunno, just don't give up Joe Johnson for Samuel Dalembert PLEASE!

Are you talking about the highest percentage or highest total threes? Because he is second in %, hes in the top 10 (lower half) in three pointers made I think.

**RoXer** · 01-23-2005, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

I guarantee you that taking away one of Phoenix's three point threats and adding Hunter into the mix will do nothing but hurt them. One of the reasons they are so successful now is because they can kick it out and have four well above average three point shooters.

Jim Jackson then. Sure, it's a step down, but it's better than nothing. And every time Hunter is in, he does very well. He's 100 times better than Voskuhl. But it'd still be nice to get a different center. So in other words...

don't worry about it.

**The Miz** · 01-23-2005, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCWWF

The Sonics are too inexperienced

PHX average age: 26
SEA average age: 26

You can think all you want that the Susn are better, I dont care, but at least give a real reason. Next time try backing your statements up with support other than just saying "because it's my opinion".

BTW Hornets are the best team in the league in my opinion.

**BCWWF** · 01-23-2005, 10:04 PM

Average age is the least of the factors that I am talking about when I say they are inexperienced. I am talking about years as a starter, playoff experience, years together as a team, etc. IMO Ray Allen is the only all star caliber player on the Sonics right now and the only player with lots of experience. All five of the Suns starters could be considered all-star caliber in my opinion.

The average age factor isn't even accurate. The Suns don't play their whole team, Steve Nash is 31 and has been in the playoffs with the Mavericks for like the past five years or so. Shawn Marion is 27 and has been in the playoffs before. Marion and Stoudemire played in the Olympics. Johnson, Amare, and Marion have been playing with each other for three years now. Nash and Marion have both played in the all star game, Amare was rookie of the year, and Amare and Joe Johnson both played in the rookie all star game. That is experience and proven talent that I think the Suns have and the Sonics don't.

I like the Sonics as much as the next guy, they are one of my favorite teams too, but to honestly think that they finish the year as hot as they started is novice. I say in my opinion after I state my opinion because it is my opinion and if I didn't state that I would have the same people whining "Just because its your opinion doesn't mean its the only thing thats right."

**BCWWF** · 01-27-2005, 09:48 PM

Just a thought, if the Suns need Steve Nash to win because he gets so many assists, how come they don't trade and get Brevin Knight as a backup? It seems like he could be better then whoever they have now even though he sucks.

**DaveWadding** · 01-27-2005, 09:54 PM

We had Brevin Knight.

**The Miz** · 01-28-2005, 07:17 PM

Oh shit Steve Nash played in an all-star game, good point man that's all the experience you need.

If you've watched the Mavs at all the last few years Nash is always fatigued after 81 games. Staudamire was in the playoffs once, first round exit. Mad experience.

Also nobody is gay enough to post stuff like "Just because its your opinion doesn't mean its the only thing thats right." this isnt the wrestling forum

**BCWWF** · 01-28-2005, 09:33 PM

Well I guess its just me, but I consider all-star selections, playoff appearances, and team chemistry a better determination of league experience then age

OK, so Nash has a history of slowing down on the Mavs, but the Sonics have a history of what exactly? They came out of nowhere with hardly any established players based on anything except age, the Suns have players who are established as good, which is why they will finish with a better record then the Sonics. Good attempt to belittle me, but you'll have to have a little more then the teams average age (uncited mind you) and calling me gay to get a point across.

**BCWWF** · 02-04-2005, 05:40 PM

According to PTI, Phil Jackson could be taking over the Timberwolves next season

I like Flip and am a fan of Flip, but the history doesn't lie with Phil Jackson. He could finish the job back at home. I wonder what truth is behind it.

**BCWWF** · 02-20-2005, 06:10 PM

Its been a while since this thread was posted in, but there are a few huge trades that have been rumored lately.

1. Lamar Odom for Peja

2. Caron Butler and others for Boozer

**Kid Robb** · 02-20-2005, 06:39 PM

Kobe doesn't like giving up the ball in any situation, let alone to a shooter like Peja. They need some inside help more than anything. Odom probably wouldn't be a bad fit for the Kings though.

**Crimson** · 02-20-2005, 07:32 PM

I like the Boozer one for the Lakers. I don't think any will happen though.

GO SONICS

**Ninti the Mad** · 02-20-2005, 07:52 PM

5 minutes till all-star game...

**BCWWF** · 02-20-2005, 11:54 PM

Yeah I don't see the Peja one going through, but really the Boozer one might make its share of sense. Kobe and Chucky outside, Boozer and Mihm inside, and Odom in the middle. They would be a really solid team, not sure how realistic that would be though. It also had stuff about Latrell Sprewell for Jason Kidd straight up, but I couldn't see that happening ever, it would be sweet though.

**Rain Man** · 02-21-2005, 12:04 AM

My boy AI getting the MVP... Yeahhh Brotha now the fucking playoffs...

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 02-21-2005, 12:28 AM

I heard Kidd wants to go to Minnesota (And I didn't hear this from BCWWF...surprisingly)

All Star game was pretty hot. Vince Carter's dunk was sick. Seeing Grant Hill catch an ally-oop was pretty sweet too. Dwayne Wade had a nasty dunk on the baseline too.

Starting to get back into the NBA again

**BCWWF** · 02-21-2005, 12:54 AM

Well the story broke about a week ago. To be perfectly honest I don't believe the story, it sounds like one of those things that some guy found and blew completely out of perportion and that Kidd actually has never even mentioned Minnesota in a serious manner. The way you say that seems kind of negative though?

**Jesus Shuttlesworth** · 02-21-2005, 01:51 AM

Nah I wasn't taking a shot at you. Kind of a joke, letting posters know I heard something about the T'Wolves getting somebody big and it didn't come from you.

**BCWWF** · 02-21-2005, 05:54 PM

Oh aight, just checking.

There is a lot of talk about Gary Payton coming to the Wolves for Sam Cassell. Personally, I am a fan of GP and really wanted him to join the T-Wolves a few years ago when there was a chance, and right now I think he might be able to help the Wolves, but I would hate to see him traded because I think he has a really good thiing going with the Celtics right now. It would be a shame if they traded him for a pissy Sam Cassell just because he is expiring.

**The Outlaw** · 02-21-2005, 11:18 PM

I heard the Glove for Alien trade.

Think that would do MN a lot of good.

**BCWWF** · 02-21-2005, 11:32 PM

The only trade that I really liked so far has been Spree and Cassell for Kidd, but that trade is obviously probably a lot more speculation then truth

**Crimson** · 02-23-2005, 11:45 PM

Webber to Philly

Good trade for Philly, not sure why the Kings traded him, was he unhappy? Good for Iverson he needs help hopefully they do well in the playoffs.

**Crimson** · 02-23-2005, 11:58 PM

AND GOD why is Seattle so fuckin cheap, RE-SIGN ALLEN you dickwads, he is the shit. If they trade him they better get Duncan or someshit

Ray is like one of the big reasons of this years success.

**Bad Guy** · 02-23-2005, 11:58 PM

steven a said because of cap reasons. 80 million in the next 4 years so they got rid of him.

**BCWWF** · 02-24-2005, 12:33 AM

Wow, the 76ers are going to be amazing now and the Kings are going to be horseshit.

**The Icon of Elisim** · 02-24-2005, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson

Webber to Philly

Good trade for Philly, not sure why the Kings traded him, was he unhappy? Good for Iverson he needs help hopefully they do well in the playoffs.

Cap reasons and he was criticizing some players on the Kings in the offseason, I dunno if he named names but it was some obvious comments about Peja

**The Icon of Elisim** · 02-24-2005, 01:26 AM

And it wasn't an awful trade. The Kings got Skinner, Thomas and Corliss. That is alot of size and grit

**BCWWF** · 02-24-2005, 01:29 AM

A friend and I just had a big debate (more for the sake of arguing then anything else), but I said that C-Webb wouldn't play in New York tomorrow night and he said that he would. Do you think he will be playing?

01-22-2005, 04:44 AM	#161
Kid Robb Mr. Bump Posts: 8,990	Ginobli Haven't seen a game like that where 3 guys just don't seem to be missing, Manu, Marion and Amare.

01-22-2005, 12:05 PM	#162
FacelessBum Posts: 166	ROFL BCWWF Getting all excited to see the Suns falter like they did. The thing about the way the Suns play is that they are going to get too tired too fast. It doesnt matter if it's a young team, the year will drag on and the nights will get longer. Anyway, Spurs are the man and I wish I could've seen the game. (Went to a local hockey game to watch the team LOSE in sudden death)

01-22-2005, 01:03 PM	#163
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	The Spurs are the only team in the NBA that will be able to beat the Suns on a consistant level. Even if the Suns won last night I still think I would be saying that. They are too solid and consistant. The Suns could take any other team in a 7 game series, be it the Heat, the Mavericks, the Sonics, whoever. If they can figure out how to work Barbosa into the lineup or else trade and get a spark plug off the bench they cuold have a chance at the Spurs.

01-23-2005, 02:31 AM	#165
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I don't know if KG is struggling or playing more as a teammate or what, but his numbers have seemed low the past few games. In the meantime Eddie Griffin has been coming up huge on the boards and blocks and stuff. I can't imagine KG becoming less selfish then he already is, I guess now a distinguished forward with him is taking the pressure off. Now just to get rid of Olowokandi

01-23-2005, 02:38 AM	#166
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	They now have Jim Jackson. He should be a spark off the bench actually.

01-23-2005, 04:31 AM	#168
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	It is being reported that the Suns are trying to unload Joe Johnson in an effort to bring in Sameul Dalembert. Am I the only one who thinks that idea is awful? Johnson has been a key part of their success thus far, he is the top three point shooter in the league this season and the Suns live on the three point shot. If they are going to go after a guy like that, they just need to give up a draft pick and a guy that is expiring after the season, like Bo Outlaw. Samuel Dalembert backing up Amare with Barbosa or something starting instead of JJ is awful. If they want to trade Joe Johnson, why not for Shareef? That would make sense, more Marion back to SF or something. I am trying to think of a better backup to Amare that wouldn't require trading a starter...Joe Smith? Lorenzen Wright or Stromile Swift? Lee Nailon? Olowokandi? Ratliff? I dunno, just don't give up Joe Johnson for Samuel Dalembert PLEASE!

01-23-2005, 01:22 PM	#169
The Icon of Elisim Elitist Member Posts: 15,438	Dalembert is good because he is a big guy who can move and thus fits into their offensive system. Shareef would slow down the team considerably. Swift would be a great addition but they don't have the players to acquire him. And these guys are right. The Suns won't go far in the playoffs. Q and Nash have bad backs and obviously they can't play without Nash. Plus the depth factor is huge and the fact that they won't see a really good half court defense until the playoffs

01-23-2005, 03:29 PM	#170
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	If Nash goes down, after last week it really is quite obvious that the Suns are done. Q would hurt a lot, but obviously not as much as Nash. If they go into the playoffs shorthanded like that then I can see them losing in the first round to the Lakers or something. If it works out where they come into the playoffs with their starting 5 healthy though, I don't see a team that can stop them besides the Spurs. The Mavericks are just a poor mans Suns in my opinion. The Kings are old, fragile, and overrated in my opinion. The Timberwolves don't have any drive this year The Sonics are too inexperienced and I expect them to break down, not completely, but I don't see them holding strong into the playoffs. The Lakers will get there but they don't have the talent to go anywhere The Rockets just don't seem to have the edge that it takes to win big games in the playoffs I think that the Spurs will pretty much roll through the playoffs because they are so consistant and good on defense. I think that the West is still as a whole much stronger then the East, but the Spurs and Suns are the only two elite teams, before there were like four even five elite teams in the West. I don't think any team but the Spurs can hold of a healthy Suns.

01-23-2005, 03:58 PM	#171
RoXer History's Greatest, Mr. E Posts: 42,425	Suns want to get rid of Joe Johnson because he is going to ask for a zillion dollars next year. Q can fill his spot. Hunter can take center. Everything will be hunky-dory. People who make predictions piss me off though. Suddenly they are "pshycic". What they don't know is that they are annoying and need to shut up. That's why I usually stay out of threads like this. I don't want to be told how to root for my team.

01-23-2005, 04:05 PM	#172
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	I guarantee you that taking away one of Phoenix's three point threats and adding Hunter into the mix will do nothing but hurt them. One of the reasons they are so successful now is because they can kick it out and have four well above average three point shooters.

01-23-2005, 10:04 PM	#176
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Average age is the least of the factors that I am talking about when I say they are inexperienced. I am talking about years as a starter, playoff experience, years together as a team, etc. IMO Ray Allen is the only all star caliber player on the Sonics right now and the only player with lots of experience. All five of the Suns starters could be considered all-star caliber in my opinion. The average age factor isn't even accurate. The Suns don't play their whole team, Steve Nash is 31 and has been in the playoffs with the Mavericks for like the past five years or so. Shawn Marion is 27 and has been in the playoffs before. Marion and Stoudemire played in the Olympics. Johnson, Amare, and Marion have been playing with each other for three years now. Nash and Marion have both played in the all star game, Amare was rookie of the year, and Amare and Joe Johnson both played in the rookie all star game. That is experience and proven talent that I think the Suns have and the Sonics don't. I like the Sonics as much as the next guy, they are one of my favorite teams too, but to honestly think that they finish the year as hot as they started is novice. I say in my opinion after I state my opinion because it is my opinion and if I didn't state that I would have the same people whining "Just because its your opinion doesn't mean its the only thing thats right."

01-27-2005, 09:48 PM	#177
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Just a thought, if the Suns need Steve Nash to win because he gets so many assists, how come they don't trade and get Brevin Knight as a backup? It seems like he could be better then whoever they have now even though he sucks.

01-27-2005, 09:54 PM	#178
DaveWadding LIMITLESS Posts: 32,276	We had Brevin Knight.

01-28-2005, 07:17 PM	#179
The Miz Clutch Poster Posts: 11,997	Oh shit Steve Nash played in an all-star game, good point man that's all the experience you need. If you've watched the Mavs at all the last few years Nash is always fatigued after 81 games. Staudamire was in the playoffs once, first round exit. Mad experience. Also nobody is gay enough to post stuff like "Just because its your opinion doesn't mean its the only thing thats right." this isnt the wrestling forum

01-28-2005, 09:33 PM	#180
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Well I guess its just me, but I consider all-star selections, playoff appearances, and team chemistry a better determination of league experience then age OK, so Nash has a history of slowing down on the Mavs, but the Sonics have a history of what exactly? They came out of nowhere with hardly any established players based on anything except age, the Suns have players who are established as good, which is why they will finish with a better record then the Sonics. Good attempt to belittle me, but you'll have to have a little more then the teams average age (uncited mind you) and calling me gay to get a point across.

02-04-2005, 05:40 PM	#181
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	According to PTI, Phil Jackson could be taking over the Timberwolves next season I like Flip and am a fan of Flip, but the history doesn't lie with Phil Jackson. He could finish the job back at home. I wonder what truth is behind it.

02-20-2005, 06:10 PM	#182
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Its been a while since this thread was posted in, but there are a few huge trades that have been rumored lately. 1. Lamar Odom for Peja 2. Caron Butler and others for Boozer

02-20-2005, 06:39 PM	#183
Kid Robb Mr. Bump Posts: 8,990	Kobe doesn't like giving up the ball in any situation, let alone to a shooter like Peja. They need some inside help more than anything. Odom probably wouldn't be a bad fit for the Kings though.

02-20-2005, 07:32 PM	#184
Crimson Posts: 6,108	I like the Boozer one for the Lakers. I don't think any will happen though. GO SONICS

02-20-2005, 07:52 PM	#185
Ninti the Mad Mad as in crazy, dumbass Posts: 27,739	5 minutes till all-star game...

02-20-2005, 11:54 PM	#186
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Yeah I don't see the Peja one going through, but really the Boozer one might make its share of sense. Kobe and Chucky outside, Boozer and Mihm inside, and Odom in the middle. They would be a really solid team, not sure how realistic that would be though. It also had stuff about Latrell Sprewell for Jason Kidd straight up, but I couldn't see that happening ever, it would be sweet though.

02-21-2005, 12:04 AM	#187
Rain Man MoeFREAK Posts: 1,682	My boy AI getting the MVP... Yeahhh Brotha now the fucking playoffs...

02-21-2005, 12:28 AM	#188
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	I heard Kidd wants to go to Minnesota (And I didn't hear this from BCWWF...surprisingly) All Star game was pretty hot. Vince Carter's dunk was sick. Seeing Grant Hill catch an ally-oop was pretty sweet too. Dwayne Wade had a nasty dunk on the baseline too. Starting to get back into the NBA again

02-21-2005, 12:54 AM	#189
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Well the story broke about a week ago. To be perfectly honest I don't believe the story, it sounds like one of those things that some guy found and blew completely out of perportion and that Kidd actually has never even mentioned Minnesota in a serious manner. The way you say that seems kind of negative though?

02-21-2005, 01:51 AM	#190
Jesus Shuttlesworth Posts: 42,765	Nah I wasn't taking a shot at you. Kind of a joke, letting posters know I heard something about the T'Wolves getting somebody big and it didn't come from you.

02-21-2005, 05:54 PM	#191
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	Oh aight, just checking. There is a lot of talk about Gary Payton coming to the Wolves for Sam Cassell. Personally, I am a fan of GP and really wanted him to join the T-Wolves a few years ago when there was a chance, and right now I think he might be able to help the Wolves, but I would hate to see him traded because I think he has a really good thiing going with the Celtics right now. It would be a shame if they traded him for a pissy Sam Cassell just because he is expiring.

02-21-2005, 11:18 PM	#192
The Outlaw Unofficial Legend Posts: 11,931	I heard the Glove for Alien trade. Think that would do MN a lot of good.

02-21-2005, 11:32 PM	#193
BCWWF The People's Member Posts: 18,092	The only trade that I really liked so far has been Spree and Cassell for Kidd, but that trade is obviously probably a lot more speculation then truth

02-23-2005, 11:45 PM	#194
Crimson Posts: 6,108	Webber to Philly Good trade for Philly, not sure why the Kings traded him, was he unhappy? Good for Iverson he needs help hopefully they do well in the playoffs.

02-23-2005, 11:58 PM	#195
Crimson Posts: 6,108	AND GOD why is Seattle so fuckin cheap, RE-SIGN ALLEN you dickwads, he is the shit. If they trade him they better get Duncan or someshit Ray is like one of the big reasons of this years success.