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Old 02-16-2004, 11:05 PM   #161
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:05 PM   #162
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Great match, piss poor ending. Not just because Michaels won (Benoit needed to win, and that's coming from an HBK mark) but because the way it ended. HHH should not have been involved. Completely ruined the flow of the match. And Austin coming out now doesn't help either.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:06 PM   #163
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only thing that would save this if Austin ran him over....shit
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:06 PM   #164
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Shit, that was going for a MOTY and it got all ****ed up....... and now i don't wanna see SCSA announce the triple threat...
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:06 PM   #165
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:06 PM   #166
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:06 PM   #167
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:06 PM   #168
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it better at least be the ladder match i've heard about...
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:07 PM   #169
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damnitdamnitdamnitdamnit!!!! I'm too pissed to even watch the swimsuit special and whack it... well maybe not... but i'm still pissed!
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:08 PM   #172
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:08 PM   #173
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even a ladder match wouldn't save this fight
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The match was great, and frankly a draw I would have loved. HBK over Benoit could have worked, but involving Triple H killed the flow.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:08 PM   #175
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Only 4 matches?....Night guys that last match was tiring me. recording the swim suit special
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The match was great, and frankly a draw I would have loved. HBK over Benoit could have worked, but involving Triple H killed the flow.
I agree with pretty much all of your posts tonight. The ending was STUPID and the match was gold.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:09 PM   #178
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even a ladder match wouldn't save this fight

Yeah but If it's not a traditional one on one, then a ladder match will make it a more worthy main event for WMXX...
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:10 PM   #179
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goddammit...way to ruin what the Rumble stands for...Triple threats should NOT be a main event for Wrestlemania.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:10 PM   #180
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even a ladder match wouldn't save this fight
The match is going to be great at Mania. HBK makes HHH do well. They have great matches, we saw the match Benoit and Michaels can have, so the three of them should be a great match, so long as Benoit goes over clean.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:10 PM   #181
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:12 PM   #182
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The match would be much better if it was old school ECW Three Way Dance
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:12 PM   #183
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The only way Michaels should have gone over Benoit was through HIM cheating. No distractions or anything, but Michaels being so desperate, that he, the LEGEND, had to cheat. Benoit going over clean should have been the first option though.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:12 PM   #184
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Benoit needs the momentum, but if he gets put over in the end against Michaels in Edmonton it's all good...but still, just stupid.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:13 PM   #185
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The match is going to be great at Mania. HBK makes HHH do well. They have great matches, we saw the match Benoit and Michaels can have, so the three of them should be a great match, so long as Benoit goes over clean.

Yeah but triple threats can be predictable, everyone hits finishers, and blocks the other persons 3 count a billion times...
A ladder match would make this match more memorable I think...
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The match would be much better if it was old school ECW Three Way Dance
Only if Benoit pinned HHH first. That way Benoit gets the clean win over Hunter, then wins the belt over Michaels. I would say get rid of Shawn first, but frankly I don't think HHH could have half the match with Benoit that Michaels could.
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Yeah but triple threats can be predictable, everyone hits finishers, and blocks the other persons 3 count a billion times...
A ladder match would make this match more memorable I think...
I agree, but in the same token, I'm not so sure HHH could handle a ladder match now. Michaels I know could, Benoit I know could... Hunter just raises doubts to me.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:16 PM   #188
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Is WWE trying to make Triple H look stupid? I thought he was supposed to be invincible and several steps ahead of the game...so why the fuck was he surprised that the WMXX main event is *gasp* a Triple Threat? There are TWO number one contenders for your belt, and you refused to do TWO matches in one night. What did you think was gonna happen, Pinocchio?
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I agree, but in the same token, I'm not so sure HHH could handle a ladder match now. Michaels I know could, Benoit I know could... Hunter just raises doubts to me.
Really? why do u think that? HHH has been doing good lately since he doesn't seem to have injuries slowing him down? He's still a backstage asshole, but he's at least been performing pretty well I think.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:18 PM   #190
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Is WWE trying to make Triple H look stupid? I thought he was supposed to be invincible and several steps ahead of the game...so why the fuck was he surprised that the WMXX main event is *gasp* a Triple Threat? There are TWO number one contenders for your belt, and you refused to do TWO matches in one night. What did you think was gonna happen, Pinocchio?
I guess the game must be on pause
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A triple threat is a tougher match to lay out then a singles. So saying that HBK vs HHH was and HBK vs Benoit was good, means HHH vs HBK vs Benoit will be great is false. Dont get me wrong, it could be great, but I dont think it will be good as either combination in a singles.

I hope they end up making it Elimination, but I know better. Seems odd they didn't announce the Ladder stip, maybe they went against that idea, so at least Benoit gets to pin one of them. Still, I think this hurts the match overall, but we'll see.

Rest of the show was solid enough.

I really liked the Foley beatdown, that was some good stuff, without resorting to gimmicks, Foley took some stiff looking shots to the face.

Vince vs Eric is gay. I mean that match has no meaning now, maybe if they would have done that when Bisch showed up on RAW instead of hugging Vince, but I guess thats why I'm not a booker.........

BT and RVD get the tag straps as I predicted, but I wonder if this puts them on the card at Mania or not, I know I have my doubts. Speaking of tag teams, where are the Dudleys these days? I mean I know on Heat, but whats the deal there? And did they fire all the other tag teams on RAW?

Christian is a hillarious mofo.

That Matt Hardy segment was great, they are totally using him right, and NOT wasting him whatsoever.

Vince makes a big announcement next week, I had heard that Vince was getting in the Kane-Taker angle, but I'm thinking he'll just announce Lesnar vs Goldber and/or Kane vs Taker. I guess it will require his approval since they are RAW vs SD matches. Unless they have some larger plan with Eric vs Vince for Mania, God I hope not.

Anyway, good show, great main event, of course then there was the Kliq approved burrial of Benoit, but hey thats how you build up a guy who is scheduled to get the World Title and then fail so he can JOB the title back to HHH.
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Really? why do u think that? HHH has been doing good lately since he doesn't seem to have injuries slowing him down? He's still a backstage asshole, but he's at least been performing pretty well I think.
I don't know. I mean, he just doesn't have that stride that he used to in my opinion. I mean, maybe he'll suprise me, and I agree he's been doing great, but his opponent has been Shawn, and Shawn could drag my grandmother to a 4 star match (same could be said for Jericho, Benoit, and Angle). Just ladder matches depend more on individual responsibility to me. You can't really be carried in a match like that without it being overly obvious.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:24 PM   #193
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A triple threat is a tougher match to lay out then a singles. So saying that HBK vs HHH was and HBK vs Benoit was good, means HHH vs HBK vs Benoit will be great is false. Dont get me wrong, it could be great, but I dont think it will be good as either combination in a singles.
I can agree with that. I just think that without the ladder, HBK and Benoit could guide the match from an athletic stand point, and HHH is smart enough during the match (not at ends, as he loves to bury people at the very end) that he could place his spots well. I just think the ladder would complicate things.

But yeah, you're definently right, a singles match would be much better.
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Why can't WWE just stick to what has worked. All I ask for is one match in the entire year putting the two top guys one on one against each other. Why must we make Triple Threats? Did we not learn our lesson from WrestleMania 2000? Oh well...let's just look forward to to REAL Main Event, Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero. Hey that reminds my brain, what will be the Main Event (Last Match). I say it should be like every other WrestleMania (Besides XI) and be revolved around the WWE Title.
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Why can't WWE just stick to what has worked. All I ask for is one match in the entire year putting the two top guys one on one against each other. Why must we make Triple Threats? Did we not learn our lesson from WrestleMania 2000? Oh well...let's just look forward to to REAL Main Event, Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero. Hey that reminds my brain, what will be the Main Event (Last Match). I say it should be like every other WrestleMania (Besides XI) and be revolved around the WWE Title.
Benoit won the Rumble so his match is gonna be main event. And this match can't be compared to 2000, the workers in this match are WAY better than 2000.

And what happened at WMXI I can't remember?
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Eddie and Kurt should be the main event, but since Benoit won the rumble, HHH and HBK are in the World title match, that'll headline. I get the bad feeling that Kurt Eddie with be at like mid way, followed by Taker/Kane, Brock/Goldberg then the triple threat. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:31 PM   #199
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vince vs bischoff, which one will be the heel? i smell another linda returns and is with bischoff. i would root for eric he's a cooler heel.
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Old 02-16-2004, 11:31 PM   #200
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Although, I will agree a one on one match is a better choice, but this isn't a complete disaster...
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