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Old 10-01-2009, 09:50 AM   #161
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That was lame. I think the ref should have put them back on their feet. I know Roy was in control, but he was just throwing weak punches not doing any damage but just doing it to rack up points. He is a fat fuck who got on Kimbos head, and won because he couldnt get the fat off his head.

That said, Kimbo wasnt even trying to get out, so I dunno.

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Old 10-01-2009, 10:09 AM   #162
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Shots to the forehead are more annoying than anything
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:17 AM   #163
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The punches were weak, but I think the position was more devastating than anything else. Kimbo was more or less defenseless, and had no answer for Crucifix position. At that point, it doesn't really matter how hard you hit.
As for Dana's bitching, well, I also agreed with what he had to say after the Shivers-McSweeney fight. Oh yeah... he didn't say SHIT about that abomination. Hey, at least Roy ended the fight.Also, the after fight thing, I thought it was more about him joking about how fat he was, which he and Dana did BEFORE the fight. Dana also laughed about the whole Double Whopper thing at the time. He only talked shit AFTER the fight, during the commentary.

Seriously, out of the three people who have fought and lost, Kimbo will get a second shot. Abe probably won't get cleared after the cut and Shivers looked like the drizzling shit.
I think right at the moment he just chose to give a fake laugh instead of tear into Nelson's ass because everyone already knew what happened in that fight.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:23 AM   #164
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IM CALLING IT RIGHT NOW!!!


Kimbo loses to roy. Someone gets injured or cant fight for some reason, and kimbo steps in to take his place.
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What are you talking about Reavant, YOU KNOW NOTHING
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Im not saying, Im just saying
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kimbo actually looked pretty decent. he stopped the takedowns well for the most part, had good hands. his transition blocking is a bit cack and he's a bit too stiff on his feet, doesn't circle enough but i'm sure he can learn them easily enough.

nelson was ok. seems like a very boring fighter, he didn't have to hit hard so he didn't. i can see why dana would be annoyed cause if i had to pay to see one of those guys fight it'd be kimbo every time, even if you took out his whole back story and just had him as the fighter he is now.

rampage is still a fucking terrible cornerman. i don't know why he doesn't just shut the fuck up and let the actual coaches do the shouting. "get up get up get up get up" as if that hadn't occurred to kimbo previously.
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That was lame. I think the ref should have put them back on their feet. I know Roy was in control, but he was just throwing weak punches not doing any damage but just doing it to rack up points. He is a fat fuck who got on Kimbos head, and won because he couldnt get the fat off his head.

That said, Kimbo wasnt even trying to get out, so I dunno.

Weak Sauce.
You don't do a stand up when one guy has another in the crucifix. That is a dominant position, it would have been an abomination if Herb Dean stood him up when he was dominating Kimbo. Sure the punches didn't appear to be hurting Kimbo at all but you're forgetting the most important thing...

...Kimbo didn't do a damn thing to try and get up from bottom position. He didn't try to buck, he didn't try to scoot over to even try and establish guard. He didn't do anything. He just laid their like a useless slug. The stoppage was just, cause Kimbo flat out gave up on the ground. It was the same exact thing that happened to him in the James Thompson. Which shows to me that Kimbo either doesn't want to grow, or is too slow of a learner to compete. Kimbo's ground defense was a joke.

That and I'm not impressed with Kimbo's "power." He hit Roy flush a few times and didn't knock him down.
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I just watched the fight... and i have to say wow to some of you and a big to ^TSO
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I was impressed with Kimbo's ability to last past the first round against Roy, and the fact that some of his standup was decent. Not crazy power but he can definitley swing.

Dana gave Roy a bad rap, so the fuck what if Roy "only did enough to win", dude's gotta fight a bunch of other fights why would he want to risk perhaps breaking his hand or giving up position if he can get thefight stopped by throwing low risk punches?
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:59 PM   #171
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is it one or 2 more fights to get to the finals for Roy?
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Really hope Roy Nelson gets the shit knocked out of him. Cannot stand the fat fuck.
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Old 10-01-2009, 05:39 PM   #173
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is it one or 2 more fights to get to the finals for Roy?
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Old 10-01-2009, 08:01 PM   #174
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Roy fought like a bitch.. Kinda weird Ben Rothwell is co-headlining a PPV while Roy Nelson is on TUF..
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:03 PM   #175
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Roy deserved to win that fight the way he did, tbh. Whether the punches were soft or not, he trapped Kimbo in the same crucifix trap TWICE. He neutralized Kimbo's obvious physical superiority by locking Kimbo into a position where he could not defend himself. Hats off to Roy.
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:05 PM   #176
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Thing about Dana White is, he likes fighters that leave it all out there, not fighters who squeak by..
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I think Dana forgets that MMA is a mental game sometimes. Roy incapacitated Kimbo and got a legit win using his experience and cage smarts. It seems like Dana just wants explosiveness and bloodshed all the time which is cool but it's not what the sport is all about. Not something you'd expect from the President of the fucking UFC.
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If it weren't for Dana White UFC (actually MMA in general in America)would have gone under like 8 years ago, instead of being on tv every day of the week..
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:21 PM   #179
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Right. And I understand exciting fights are good for publicity and television but it's a little unrealistic to think that these guys are going to go trailblazing after each other with wreckless abandon every single time. Especially on TUF where you must fight anywhere up to 3 fights in an extremely short period of time. An intelligent victory should be praised, not shit on by the President of the company. That's alls I'm sayin here.
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:28 PM   #180
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its not gonna make him money though, that's the thing. i dont think any fighter happy to continuously get points victorys in the UFC would last very long. we'll see how it pans out though.
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:33 PM   #181
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Point victory? Are you speaking of Roy's win? It was a TKO.
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i know i know. i guess what i am trying to say is the UFC is pretty big on explosive endings. cause that sells better. i guess what i am trying to say is nelson's attitude towards the whole thing might not be in line with the UFCs and the direction they are trying to go. i think everyone knows they will use every loophole possible to get kimbo to win this series somehow or another, it's a bit gay really.
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:41 PM   #183
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Not every fight has to be like that. Or have the same mentallity of trying to do that.

Roy used his skill to easily beat an inferior fighter. It was lose/lose for him going into that fight. He took the thinkers way out.
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watched it last night. I was dissapointed Kimbo lost, but he looked pretty good standing up. he was moving around a lot and got a few good shots in.

when he went down that was another story and we all knew it was coming.

Apparently the show was the highest rated TUF ever, so you can bet your ass Kimbo will be back.
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yeah, it's blatantly a matter of when not if kimbo makes it into the ufc now. even if he has to go away and train some more and reappear in another TUF a couple of years down the line, he is worth too much to dana not to. it's cool though, he's an interesting fighter and he actually seems like a really good guy which surprised me. Even if he isn't there as a fighter and liable to get smashed in no time the last thing the UFC need is a Fedor/Kimbo fight.
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mask..... stop it
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oh shit nevermind... i read ur post too fast i thought you were calling for a kimbo fedor fight
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Damn, i cant find the link...but on Yahoo Sports, they said Dana Whites planning on signing Kimbo regardles. I think thats a full blown conclusion at this point. Even if he doesnt rack up wins, he'll always be a draw...
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foregone conclusion isn't it? I can't remember the exact way of saying it but it's not full blow conclusion
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http://mmajunkie.com/news/16366/roy-...of-the-ufc.mma

Interesting interview for Roy Nelson. I disagree with the whole LHW just being a "Stand and Bang" division, but I think it's interesting how he isn't phased by the whole "He's just a fatass" dismissal.

And he's right: the fight SHOULD have been stopped in the first.
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Nelson sucks too though. Watching the fight made me cringe a little. I mean either fighter could easily been ko'd by a fast/quick striker. But that's what they are there for to improve.
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The Nelson/Arlovski fight was interresting because of a questionable stand-up (which occured WHILE Nelson was working for a Kimura.). It was the only time he got stopped.
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You called Kimbo losing and him reappearing later in the season like a week and a half ago..
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The ratings for the fight are through the roof. But Dana has always argued that with Kimbo, it's not that he can draw, it's how he draws.

Smart business to take a draw, and teach him how to fight. Fucking loooooooong way to go yet, mind.
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I used to dislike Kimbo. He was a thug on the internet beating up nobodies. When I watched his first fight I was hoping he'd lose. Then he did and now he gets another chance to get in MMA and I'm rooting for him.
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Nelson sucks too though. Watching the fight made me cringe a little. I mean either fighter could easily been ko'd by a fast/quick striker. But that's what they are there for to improve.
no really nelson doesnt suck at all. He tried to take as little damage in the fight and work as little as possible so that he was fresh for the tournament. He is actually one of the best ground fighters in MMA. He even beat frank mir in a grappling match. And besides tell me how many heavyweights out there fall under the umbrella of fast/quick strikers.
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