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Old 03-16-2006, 04:52 PM   #241
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As long as we don't cross paths, I suppose. Vermaat, you're my favorite TPWW heel. Never change. Just keep doing what you're doing. We need more names in this place. Thanks for adding to the coming...

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Old 03-16-2006, 04:59 PM   #242
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WCW went out of business because WWE was the better company. WCW could not handle the competion because all of their top stars were OLD and they were listening to the fans too much, like they kept nWo around because the fans cheered it. People did move on to something cooler, I know ppl from school who used to watch WWE in the stone cold era but don't now because they think it's for kids and stupid and are embarassed to admit it. These are the FAKE FANS that I am talking about that watch something "cooler".
You are SO wrong on SO many levels and yet you still argue this bullshit, this isn't a matter of opinion vs. opinion it's facts Dicksmoke! and here they are

1. All of WCW's stars weren't old... WCW just only pushed the older already established stars

2. They weren't listening to their fans too much... THEY WEREN'T LISTENING AT ALL!!! Were the fans crying out for David Arquette to win the World Title?! Or for Vince Russo to win it?! FUCK YOU ARE IGNORANT!!!

3. The Fans didn't want the nWo back... WCW went back to the nWo because it had worked in the past... which was a common practice in WCW and still is in WWE, just because something worked before doesn't mean it will again. Hence WWE attempting to bring back the nWo in 2002.

4. Again I will state, people who stopped watching after the Attitude era didn't grow out of it! They weren't FAKE fans! The quality of programming WWE was putting out after the Attitude Era ended has dramatically decreased and the ratings and buyrates reflect that. I'll simplify it for you

GOOD PROGRAMMING = MORE FANS = HIGHER RATINGS, BUY RATES AND ATTENDACE

BAD PROGRAMMING = LESS FANS = LOVER RATINGS, BUY RATES AND ATTENDANCE

So in closing, YOU ARE WRONG, go away!
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:01 PM   #243
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I think a lot of people share my opinions but are too afraid to speak out.
Oh you are out of your fucking mind... you can't SERIOUSLY belive that!
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:02 PM   #244
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As long as we don't cross paths, I suppose. Vermaat, you're my favorite TPWW heel. Never change. Just keep doing what you're doing. We need more names in this place. Thanks for adding to the coming...

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Don't encourage this Moron... how can you be a fucking Heel on a message board? He's a fucking Troll
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:02 PM   #245
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Everything I've said has been fact. What you have been saying is biased by your dislike of John Cena. I come here because I am not afrad to speak my mind, and I am not afraud to defend the wrestlers and the company that I feel to be the best in this industry. I know there is not much of a chance of enlightening your biased minds, but as a John Cena fan it is the least I can do. It annoys me to see all the lies told about Cena here.
So you being a John Cena fan doesn't make your arguments biased TOWARDS Cena?

It goes both ways you know.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:03 PM   #246
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So you being a John Cena fan doesn't make your arguments biased TOWARDS Cena?

It goes both ways you know.
Don't you know!? He only speaks the truth!
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:09 PM   #247
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Also I wonder how the hell this topic made it to 7 pages without being closed
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:12 PM   #248
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LOL, I was just going to comment on that.

I must commend him, he actually made up enough lies so that we could write a fairy tale about rotten apples, breaking things, and someone who one little boy thought was the greatest and believed in him even though no one else did.

Sounds like a horribly written parody of the Ugly Duckling.
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And as far as what WWE said on the DVD's, I did not watch them, but WCW was not destroyed by it's owner, it was destroyed by the WWE. They could not handle the competition. As far as Heyman, he was mostly destroyed by the WWE, but he himself did play a part by leading poor business and if WWE did mention that in the DVD as the main reason, I guess they were just being nice and decided not to gloat over how badley they destroyed these two companies.
You know, rather than respond to every single stupid thing you've said again, I'm just going to use this one statement by you as an example as to how full of shit you truly are. First off, you admit that you didn't watch the DVD's. BUT in order to justify your bullshit in a previous argument after someone has thrown a hard UNDISPUTABLE fact in your face...you're now going to disagree with what the WWE ACTUALLY SAID and make up your own theory ONCE AGAIN to try and set your feeble mind at ease. In case you're wondering, the key words in your argument are "I did not watch them" and " I guess". This AUTOMATICALLY eliminates your argument from being a fact! This is what you have been doing the entire thread. Now you've stooped to the level of being "psychic" and knowing what WWE "really" meant in their statement. Now not only are you twisting reality, you're twisting facts provided by your precious WWE...all in an effort to cover your own bullshit. You're caught red handed Vermaat, try to justify that.
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Old 03-16-2006, 05:45 PM   #250
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Don't encourage this Moron... how can you be a fucking Heel on a message board? He's a fucking Troll
Don't you ever in your life undermind me, I don't give a shit who your parents made you believe you are. I'll take your negative rep with a grain of salt equal to that of a 6 year old calling me a dork and let it slide. But under no circumstance have you garnered enough respect from me to even consider saying what you said and expect it to be taken remotely serious. Do you understand me?
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Here's what I don't understand moron. How can you like shit? Seriouslly. that's what the WWE product is right now. Utter and compleat shit. And I'm going to use my fav example.

Matt Hardy/Edge. That was a storyline that was written for them. Edge and Matt have real life heat of the magnitude that it defies logic. I'm pretty sure they don't like each other nowadays but they do tolorate each other at Supershows. There was a storyline where nothing had to be done to make it better. What did the WWE do? Fuck it up royally. And I mean fucked it up royally by making the blow-off match not matter and screwing Matt hard. After that Summerslam match, which I watch, I didn't give a shit because the two of 'em just got so watered down that I just didn't care. The WWE didn't care. I started watching more and more TNA. Nowadays, I just don't care about the WWE. I don't even click the Smackdown spoilers. I don't even care if I miss RAW. and why? Because I don't want to have to eat shit. But you do.

You do boy. And for you to go around telling us that the TRUTH is we're not REAL wrestling fans.....you hurt your own argument with that fact son. Grow up and realize we're not going to stomache crap if crap is all that's being put out there.
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Old 03-16-2006, 06:14 PM   #252
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Don't you ever in your life undermind me, I don't give a shit who your parents made you believe you are. I'll take your negative rep with a grain of salt equal to that of a 6 year old calling me a dork and let it slide. But under no circumstance have you garnered enough respect from me to even consider saying what you said and expect it to be taken remotely serious. Do you understand me?
Are you threatening me over a fucking internet message board? What may I ask would you do if I decided to "undermind" you? Fuck off loser!
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Old 03-16-2006, 06:31 PM   #253
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All of WCW's stars weren't old... WCW just only pushed the older already established stars
All of WCW's EMPLOYEES weren't old. But the majority of the old guys were stars.

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They weren't listening to their fans too much... THEY WEREN'T LISTENING AT ALL!!! Were the fans crying out for David Arquette to win the World Title?! Or for Vince Russo to win it?! FUCK YOU ARE IGNORANT!!!
People like celeberties that's why WCW did that. People also like Boss Vs Wrestlers that's why WCW did that. They were listening to the fans, it is just that when the fans see what they want, they began to see how bad it is and then they say they never wanted it. If u guys ran the WWE you would be out of business quickly.

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The Fans didn't want the nWo back... WCW went back to the nWo because it had worked in the past... which was a common practice in WCW and still is in WWE, just because something worked before doesn't mean it will again. Hence WWE attempting to bring back the nWo in 2002.
The fans liked the nWo so WCW made the mistake of thinking that they would like them AGAIN and they didn't. But wCw was stupid and that's why WWE crushed them. Lets face it, if WWE was not there, WcW would still be around.

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Again I will state, people who stopped watching after the Attitude era didn't grow out of it! They weren't FAKE fans! The quality of programming WWE was putting out after the Attitude Era ended has dramatically decreased and the ratings and buyrates reflect that. I'll simplify it for you
You're right they didn't grow out of it because they were never real fans of it. The quality did not decrease, it changed. WWE saw that the people were leaving and then changed the programming. WWE saw that all these guys who liked hardcore matches and "cool" stuff left, so they started showing more technical matches and have Benoit and Eddie as champ. That's lower quality? The quality of matches today is way better then in Attitude.

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Don't encourage this Moron... how can you be a fucking Heel on a message board? He's a fucking Troll
I'm not a moron, heel, troll or a face. Putting a label on me to make your argument seem more right won't work because I don't fit labels. I know you guys try real hard to fit whatever label you came up with and that's why you conform to whatever new trend, but I don't.

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So you being a John Cena fan doesn't make your arguments biased TOWARDS Cena?
It can, but I am not allowing that bias to affect my arguments.

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I must commend him, he actually made up enough lies so that we could write a fairy tale about rotten apples, breaking things, and someone who one little boy thought was the greatest and believed in him even though no one else did.
I did not make up any lies. Everything I said was derived through factual information, logic or relevant OBSERVATION (

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You know, rather than respond to every single stupid thing you've said again, I'm just going to use this one statement by you as an example as to how full of shit you truly are. First off, you admit that you didn't watch the DVD's. BUT in order to justify your bullshit in a previous argument after someone has thrown a hard UNDISPUTABLE fact in your face...you're now going to disagree with what the WWE ACTUALLY SAID and make up your own theory ONCE AGAIN to try and set your feeble mind at ease. In case you're wondering, the key words in your argument are "I did not watch them" and " I guess". This AUTOMATICALLY eliminates your argument from being a fact! This is what you have been doing the entire thread. Now you've stooped to the level of being "psychic" and knowing what WWE "really" meant in their statement. Now not only are you twisting reality, you're twisting facts provided by your precious WWE...all in an effort to cover your own bullshit. You're caught red handed Vermaat, try to justify that.
I used what is called logic to arrive at that conclusion. Why would the WWE rub in the face of their employee that they beat him in business?

I did not say that this was a fact, it was just something I derived from logics and it works out that WWE wouldn't want to upset a current employee.

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Here's what I don't understand moron. How can you like shit? Seriouslly. that's what the WWE product is right now. Utter and compleat shit. And I'm going to use my fav example.

Matt Hardy/Edge. That was a storyline that was written for them. Edge and Matt have real life heat of the magnitude that it defies logic. I'm pretty sure they don't like each other nowadays but they do tolorate each other at Supershows. There was a storyline where nothing had to be done to make it better. What did the WWE do? Fuck it up royally. And I mean fucked it up royally by making the blow-off match not matter and screwing Matt hard. After that Summerslam match, which I watch, I didn't give a shit because the two of 'em just got so watered down that I just didn't care. The WWE didn't care. I started watching more and more TNA. Nowadays, I just don't care about the WWE. I don't even click the Smackdown spoilers. I don't even care if I miss RAW. and why? Because I don't want to have to eat shit. But you do.

You do boy. And for you to go around telling us that the TRUTH is we're not REAL wrestling fans.....you hurt your own argument with that fact son. Grow up and realize we're not going to stomache crap if crap is all that's being put out there.
It's your miss here. You are missing out on the build up to Wrestlemania, the biggest PPV. How you can enjoy TNA is beyond me. I mean, their champion doesn't even appear on every show, they have an overexposed Jeff Jarrett and they lack main event star power.

The hardy edge storyline makes sense. Edge has a bigger potential to be a big star then matt that's why he won the feud. Simple.
 
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No...I'm not missing out on anything. The biggest build-up they've had is Mickee and Trish...and that's a sub fued.

Oh, and if you can't tell by the avatar, I don't watch TNA for Jeff Jarrett. Get that through your pointy skull and keep eating the shit the WWE feeds you.
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Another reason the ratings have dropped is simple, the internet.

More people now have internet then in the attitude era and it lowers the ratings because, shows get spoiled before airing and storylines are often revealed online before they happen so people get bored and see it as predictable and stop watching. I think the internet played a role in low ratings
 
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So the internet is ruining the WWE? I guess that can be a bit beliveable. But the other reason that ratings are down is because the WWE is shit.

And I don't know about you but I don't like shit. But hey, if you do, more power to you.
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Your original statement:
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WCW could not handle the competion because all of their top stars were OLD...
Your rebutal to someone proving your statement was false:
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All of WCW's EMPLOYEES weren't old.
You are full of shit and run yourself in circles like a dog chasing his tail.




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People like celeberties that's why WCW did that. They were listening to the fans, it is just that when the fans see what they want, they began to see how bad it is and then they say they never wanted it.
Are you kidding me? You admit that you didn't watch WCW, but yet you have this crystal ball that "magically" told you what it's fans wanted? You are a joke.



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The fans liked the nWo so WCW made the mistake of thinking that they would like them AGAIN and they didn't.
So you say that WCW was pitiful and got crushed by WWE....but yet, how pitiful is WWE to retry that gimmick A THIRD TIME? Is that what you call "genius"? There's nothing more lazy and unoriginal! Once again, you contradict your argument with your own mouth. Do you see a trend developing here?



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You're right they didn't grow out of it because they were never real fans of it.
Uhhh, another contradiction...and all in one goddamn sentance no less!


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The quality did not decrease, it changed.
Do you even know what that means? It makes no sense. That's like saying someone who has suffored brain damage hasn't had a decrease in the quality of their life, it's just "changed."


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It can, but I am not allowing that bias to affect my arguments.
No need...delusions, ignorance and stupidity have that covered.



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I did not make up any lies. Everything I said was derived through factual information, logic or relevant OBSERVATION
Just so you know the difference, that's a lie.



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I used what is called logic to arrive at that conclusion. Why would the WWE rub in the face of their employee that they beat him in business?
WWE: "Paul Heyman was responsible for the demise of ECW."

Vermaat: "I know that's what they said, but logically...in order to cover my own ignorant ass...they must have meant something else. BECAUSE I CAN'T ADMIT THAT I WAS WRONG!"

That isn't called "logic" you moron, that's called you being "full of shit."

And by the way, WWE/Vince rubbed it into the face of Eric Bischoff on the air every chance they got. That's half the reason they hired him. So there's a MAJOR hole in your "logic". Bad example.

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I did not say that this was a fact, it was just something I derived from logics and it works out that WWE wouldn't want to upset a current employee.
Yes, you moron. WWE is SO CONCERNED about not wanting to upset a current employee. One word for you...Eddie.

No, the "fact" is that WWE actually ADMITS...ON FILM...that Paul Heyman was the one who destroyed ECW. PAUL HEYMAN. That is the fact. Your whole problem is that you take actual documented "facts" and "derive" alternate explanations from your own fucked up sense of "logic"....respit this shit out, and then claim your version to be fact. The only one that believes your own bullshit is you...and as I have proved, you even contradict and confuse yourself. Just stop.

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Are you threatening me over a fucking internet message board? What may I ask would you do if I decided to "undermind" you? Fuck off loser!
You're obviously a child pretending to be a boy. You couldn't handled my words for a little while before you reacted like a chimp on acid. Stay out of this, I find this battle most interesting.

And yes; I was threatening you over a fucking internet message board. Whatcha gonna do about it?
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:55 PM   #261
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Don't encourage this Moron... how can you be a fucking Heel on a message board? He's a fucking Troll
It's Kalyx Triad we're talking about. One of the most incoherrent pieces of shit to grace the internet.
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Old 03-16-2006, 08:58 PM   #262
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And yes; I was threatening you over a fucking internet message board. Whatcha gonna do about it?
Demand your personal info and charge you with assault?
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Sorry, I'd address fuckwit up there, but really, he's trying to pass off lies as fact. I don't think there's anything I could do to destroy his argument that he hasn't done already...

...But one thing does come to mind...If WWE's so successful, why is WM make it or break it?
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Yikes.

And fuck you, BTW.
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Sorry, I'd address fuckwit up there, but really, he's trying to pass off lies as fact. I don't think there's anything I could do to destroy his argument that he hasn't done already...

...But one thing does come to mind...If WWE's so successful, why is WM make it or break it?
That's the million dollar question. Basically, all the longwinded fiction that Vermaat has spewed out of his ass totally contradicts his original point in the thread. Ironic? Maybe. Jackassic? Definitely.

Here's Vermaat in mid debate:

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Old 03-16-2006, 09:28 PM   #267
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You are full of shit and run yourself in circles like a dog chasing his tail.
The two statements are different and don't contradict each other. One statement was that top WCW wrestlers were OLD. True. The second statement is that no all of their EMPLOYEES were OLD. True. There is a difference between top stars and employees. All of the top card was OLD, but not all of the bottom card. The problem you guys have is that you don't read carefully here.


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Are you kidding me? You admit that you didn't watch WCW, but yet you have this crystal ball that "magically" told you what it's fans wanted? You are a joke.
I didn't watch WCW, but I've talked to fans of WCW at school back then and I knew the general feeling of people. Besides, fans of WCW weren't that different from fans of WWE. It is pretty easy to deduce what they wanted without being one.

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So you say that WCW was pitiful and got crushed by WWE....but yet, how pitiful is WWE to retry that gimmick A THIRD TIME? Is that what you call "genius"? There's nothing more lazy and unoriginal! Once again, you contradict your argument with your own mouth. Do you see a trend developing here?
I never said that WWE never makes mistakes. WWE made a mistake by bringing back the nWo. They should have brought back DX.

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Uhhh, another contradiction...and all in one goddamn sentance no less!
Where is that contradiction? They did not grow out of it, they simply moved on to something cooler. Growing out of something means it was kiddy and didn't fit your demographic. A true fan can grow out of something if it changed it's demographic enough. But they were not true fans and thus did not grow out of it, they just ABANDONDED IT

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Do you even know what that means? It makes no sense. That's like saying someone who has suffored brain damage hasn't had a decrease in the quality of their life, it's just "changed."
That is an extreme case. The type of programming changed. That doesn't mean it got worse.

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No need...delusions, ignorance and stupidity have that covered.
Ah, I see you have found your flaws.

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Just so you know the difference, that's a lie.
A lie is something that is not a truth. What I have said is a truth.

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Vermaat: "I know that's what they said, but logically...in order to cover my own ignorant ass...they must have meant something else. BECAUSE I CAN'T ADMIT THAT I WAS WRONG!"

That isn't called "logic" you moron, that's called you being "full of shit."

And by the way, WWE/Vince rubbed it into the face of Eric Bischoff on the air every chance they got. That's half the reason they hired him. So there's a MAJOR hole in your "logic". Bad example.
He was responsible. It is not a lie to say that. But he was just one of the factors responsible, the other was WWE. Without WWE, ECW might still be here if there was no competitor like the WWE. There are no excuses, it was the WWE that ultimately put them out, even if it was due to mistakes of their owners. If the owners made the same mistakes but there were no WWE, they might still be around !!!

As far as Eric Biscoff is concerned, WWE didn't really rub in that they put him out of business. They mentioned it, but mostly it was not a fact that they would remind everyone of all the time. It was mostly, Biscoff being treated as a regular heel.

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Yes, you moron. WWE is SO CONCERNED about not wanting to upset a current employee. One word for you...Eddie.

No, the "fact" is that WWE actually ADMITS...ON FILM...that Paul Heyman was the one who destroyed ECW. PAUL HEYMAN. That is the fact. Your whole problem is that you take actual documented "facts" and "derive" alternate explanations from your own fucked up sense of "logic"....respit this shit out, and then claim your version to be fact. The only one that believes your own bullshit is you...and as I have proved, you even contradict and confuse yourself. Just stop.
Not upset too much. I am sure they cleared the eddie storyline with his family and rey. I don't see why you people need to make a monster out of the WWE. It is not a monster. Just because it is succesfull doesn't make it so. Of course Heyman had a hand in why ECW went out of business, he was running it, but like I said, without WWE, it wouldn't happen. The competion of the WWE pressured down on top of Heyman leading him to destroy his business.

It is not an alternative explanation. It is logic. Something you seem to lack !!!

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...But one thing does come to mind...If WWE's so successful, why is WM make it or break it?
Because WWE is on the right road now. If they make the wrong choices at Wrestlemania they will STRAY off the right road. It won't lead to their downfall most likely, but it will BREAK them off the right road and put them on the road that can lead to DESTRUCTION.
 
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Sorry, I'd address fuckwit up there, but really, he's trying to pass off lies as fact. I don't think there's anything I could do to destroy his argument that he hasn't done already...

...But one thing does come to mind...If WWE's so successful, why is WM make it or break it?
yeah, what about it, varmint?
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I just answered that.

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Old 03-16-2006, 09:44 PM   #270
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Because WWE is on the right road now. If they make the wrong choices at Wrestlemania they will STRAY off the right road. It won't lead to their downfall most likely, but it will BREAK them off the right road and put them on the road that can lead to DESTRUCTION.
Does this road also lead to DESTRUCITY?
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Does this road also lead to DESTRUCITY?
It would if they do something stupid like hiring the ultimate warrior.
 
Old 03-16-2006, 09:52 PM   #272
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Because WWE is on the right road now. If they make the wrong choices at Wrestlemania they will STRAY off the right road. It won't lead to their downfall most likely, but it will BREAK them off the right road and put them on the road that can lead to DESTRUCTION.
So when, exactly, did they come back from being broken? Because if they're on the right road now, that implies that they were on the wrong road before. And if they were on the wrong road before, that would also mean that the WWE SUCKED at some point (otherwise they would have never had to be on any road as they have been perfect ever since they were created).

So, this would imply, at the end of the (other) road, that you thought the WWE sucked at one point. And so, you aren't a REAL WWE fan because you thought they sucked at some point, and true wrestling fans don't think the WWE sucks, according to you.
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Because WWE is on the right road now. If they make the wrong choices at Wrestlemania they will STRAY off the right road. It won't lead to their downfall most likely, but it will BREAK them off the right road and put them on the road that can lead to DESTRUCTION.
LOL.

This PPV cannot make or break them if they are as successful as you claim.
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So when, exactly, did they come back from being broken? Because if they're on the right road now, that implies that they were on the wrong road before. And if they were on the wrong road before, that would also mean that the WWE SUCKED at some point (otherwise they would have never had to be on any road as they have been perfect ever since they were created).

So, this would imply, at the end of the (other) road, that you thought the WWE sucked at one point. And so, you aren't a REAL WWE fan because you thought they sucked at some point, and true wrestling fans don't think the WWE sucks, according to you.
WWE was on the wrong road when they had JBL as champ and did not have a clear superstar to identify with the generation and a superstar to build the company around for the future years to come. When JBL was champ, this was it, the WWE was on the wrong road.

Does this mean WWE sucked? Not really. It meant they were on the wrong road, and okay, it did mean they sucked a little in some areas. But, WWE gave the title to Cena and went back on the right road. That doesn't mean they were sucking and you seem to misunderstand what I meant. I never said WWE never makes mistakes. They do. When JBL was champ, WWE was on the wrong road. There were other things going on that were right and entertaining, so they weren't sucking on the whole, but of any of those things were changing, they could have gotten to a point where they sucked. They did not.

Also, I never said a true wrestling fan would still watch the WWE becaus even though the main event was faltering and they were ON the wrong road, they were not sucking per se. This is why TRUE wrestling fans would continue to watch for the things that didn't suck and support the company.

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LOL.

This PPV cannot make or break them if they are as successful as you claim.
I already explained how it can lead them onto a wrong road.
 
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Know what I miss? Flipping between WWF and WCW during their commercial breaks on Monday. Watching ECW late Saturday night. Rinse/Repeat, week after week. Maybe some WCW Saturday Night action, take in some of that new Sunday Night Heat. WCW Wednesday Night Thunder's cool (or was it Thursday). Man, all those options. It was good to be a wrestling fan...
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Know what I miss? Flipping between WWF and WCW during their commercial breaks on Monday. Watching ECW late Saturday night. Rinse/Repeat, week after week. Maybe some WCW Saturday Night action, take in some of that new Sunday Night Heat. WCW Wednesday Night Thunder's cool (or was it Thursday). Man, all those options. It was good to be a wrestling fan...
Yeah but the bad thing was that you didn't have enough time to watch all of that But I do miss having all of that and the arguments I had in school of WWF vs WCW. Those were always fun, makes me think I should've watched more WCW but I was too much of a WWF fan then.
 
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Yeah but the bad thing was that you didn't have enough time to watch all of that But I do miss having all of that and the arguments I had in school of WWF vs WCW. Those were always fun, makes me think I should've watched more WCW but I was too much of a WWF fan then.
Don't know if you understood what I was conveying. Still, I think a true wrestling fan would find entertainment in both shows instead of being too much of a WWF fan. As is your words.

What say you?
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I already explained how it can lead them onto a wrong road.
No, you really didn't. You may think your argument explains how both can be true, but it's nonsense made to cover up an obvious contradiction.
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