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Old 03-11-2006, 06:26 PM   #1
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this years wrestlemania is MAKE IT OR BREAK IT for the WWE
If wwe screws up then I think it will be the start of WWE ending it's reign on top. this of course is triple h vs john cena, cena is obviously the best new talent wwe has had in like 5 years and it is his generation and wwe has been doing things right except making him lose to edge which was stupid but now they should have him beat hhh, hhh is the old generation, john cena is the new generation, he needs to beat hhh to continue his strakl, they should do it like goldberg with counting his wins.

If wwe has cena win they will be on top for a long time because he is the steve austin of his era and this is his generation so wwe should drop the past like HHH and go with the future, if HHH wins it will destroy cena and wwe shouldnt lose their newest star because they need him to carry this generation, they cannot rely on hhh and austin forever because they are old and broken down. Cena has new moves like the FU that got impact unlike the moves hhh uses and all the other old guys, Cena is young and is the new generation.

also on smackdown mysterio vs angle vs orton is a MAKE IT OR BREAK IT for the WWE because mysterio is the young talent they should push, i mean angle should not have won the title. He was pretty good but baldie (angle) is old and broken down now and should drop the title to the future, mysterio. I mean seriously, baldie can't do 619 or any of those new moves, he is too slow and it would be dumbb if he wins.

Undertaker Vs Mark Henry is a MAKE IT OR BREAK IT For the WWE because they need to put the undertaker out to pasture and in the hall of fame, he is old and broken down and keeps taking the spotlight. Mark henry is old too but he has a bit more gas in his tank then the undertaker so they should have henry win and have undertaker retire the same night and be put in the hall of fame cause he was good but now he is just old and broken down.

This wrestlemania is truly something WWE should focus on, what do u think? I think their future depends on this !!!!! !
 
Old 03-11-2006, 06:28 PM   #2
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I think you have great potential if you learn that periods are your friends and that only one exclamation point is needed.

EDIT: I actually read your post. Fuck you, Kurt Angle is a fucking wrestling god.
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First of all, Cena is gone until they turn him. Triple H must win the title or there will be reprocutions, including losing more viewers.

If anyone is leading the new generation it's Orton. Orton has a bigger shot taking the WWE into the next boom and leading than Cena does.

Mysterio is not a "young" talent. He made his debut in 1989 is nearing his mid-30s.

Saying giving Angle the title was a mistake is like saying having Hulk Hogan beat Andre at WrestleMania III was a mistake. It's just not true. He's the best the company has got, and although he is nearing his twilight years, he has a good three to four years on top to go.

Angle can't do a 619. So the fuck what? Neither can half the WWE roster. (Actually most probably could, it's just a shitty setup move for a shitty seated senton anyway.)

I'm not even going to touch your Henry/Taker comments.
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Lissen up and take a seat. Cena is the best face wwe has had since austin and hogan, he is not a heel. If they make him heel it would be stupid and he won't sell merchandise and guess what he sells a lot of merchandise, why? Because he is the best face wwe has got since austin!

Orton is pretty good but I have not seen him get good heel heat yet. he got good face heat so he is a pretty good face but i have not seen him get good heel heat. NOTE : cheap heat does not count like what he did with mysterio. Anyone can do that. Orton needs to work on his skill in the ring but he definetely has what it takes, just not polished yet. Cena is 100% polished. He is what everyone is talking about.

The reprecussion of HHH winning the title would be that Cena would be SCREWED again. He would e weakened and they already did that by having him lose to Edge. Cena winning here is a must, Cena losing would result in WWE weaking the man they will build the company around for the next 10 years (if they are smart)

Ok true mysterio is not a young talent, but he is fresh and he is not broken down like baldie. I mean, I like Kurt, he is a legend but sometimes you just have to retire and Angle needs to let another star on top because he just can't go at it anymore like he used to, mysterio can.

And 619 is important because it is a new move. This is exactly what the WWE LACKS, i-n-n-o-v-a-t-i-o-n ! Mysterio keeps creating new moves and his matches are amazing, it's hard to keep up with them, he is truly a man that WWE should build the company around along with Cena. Orton needs more time to develop, he is not ready yet.
 
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Fortunately for WWE, your stupid assertions of make or break mean nothing, as they will not be fucked by a bad wrestlemania.

Unfortunately for us, they know this and feel no pressure to put anything good on.
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shut the fuck up!
angle is not old or broken down!
and your calling mysterio the young one...
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Orton is pretty good but I have not seen him get good heel heat yet.
One word: Evolution.

When did you start watching wrestling? 2005?
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:59 PM   #11
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Angle has an injured neck. He needs to retire because he is not the angle that he is, you people are seeing the angle that used to be, not the angle that is now. I mean, I am a huge fan of angle, but he has just not been like he was a long time ago.

FU is like The Stunner, it has the same type of impact except it's even more impressive, doing a stunner to Big Show is meh but doing a F-U to show is a feat.

I think you people people dislike Cena for one reason, WWE weakening him by having him lose to Edge. That was a mistake.

And Evolution? What did Orton do? Not much. Evolution got heel heat because of HHH!
 
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orton turned face winning the whc sometime last year abnd was changed back to heel because he is incredible at being a bad guy...
mick foley said it himself
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dude seriously, i am the biggest cena mark in the world, but you are being retarded
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I think you people people dislike Cena for one reason, WWE weakening him by having him lose to Edge. That was a mistake.
lol because he lost to edge
edge is the man!
cena has been hated around here since he turned face!
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Old 03-11-2006, 07:04 PM   #15
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Well obviously you don't understand what's going on in the wrestling world. If you did you would see that John Cena is the man that the talk is about. Cena has been built with a great genius, much like Austin, Hogan and Goldberg, an unstoppable face that overcomes all odds. This is how you make a face and you know that the name Cena goes with the names Austin, Hogan and Goldberg. Give it a few years and you will all be talking about how Cena is the greatest of ALL time. You're just being misled by Cena's poor build as of late (Edge etc).
 
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Angle has an injured neck. He needs to retire because he is not the angle that he is, you people are seeing the angle that used to be, not the angle that is now. I mean, I am a huge fan of angle, but he has just not been like he was a long time ago.

FU is like The Stunner, it has the same type of impact except it's even more impressive, doing a stunner to Big Show is meh but doing a F-U to show is a feat.

I think you people people dislike Cena for one reason, WWE weakening him by having him lose to Edge. That was a mistake.

And Evolution? What did Orton do? Not much. Evolution got heel heat because of HHH!
Do a search on "John Cena". We have "disliked" (I would have used a different word, but whatever) since before WrestleMania 21.

Also, "a long time ago"? Angle and Michaels had one of the top feuds wrestling-wise last year. Angle may not be in the best shape, but he's by no means a shadow of his former self. If anything, he's improved on his out-of-ring stuff.

I suppose you're going to say that it was Angle's fault that the fans were cheering for him against Cena. He was the heel. He was shitting on America. Yet people still cheered him over "the best talent in the last five years". Yeah, sure.

And the ORIGINAL FU was great. It was a slightly modified DVD. Now it's a fucking Fireman's Carry Slam.
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Okay, seriously, if he isn't a joke account and/or troll this guy is retarded. (Yeah, I said I'd let up on the n00bs, but I have to make exceptions.)
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the original cena was the man, they fucked him over so bad after he got popular on his own, and tried to make him even more popular with their retarded ways

the only reason i am still a mark for him is because of how he was when he first became the heel white rapper

they can still fix him, but it seems like he is just gonna be fed to HHH
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Old 03-11-2006, 07:08 PM   #19
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watch the segmant he has last week on raw with hhh again...
that's how boring he is now...
the booing was so bad...
he pointed at coach to when they wre booing...
and when he said that thing about he won a i know what hhh is gonna say, the boo's were proper bad
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cena is obviously the best new talent wwe has had in like 5 years and it is his generation and wwe has been doing things right except making him lose to edge which was stupid but now they should have him beat hhh, hhh is the old generation, john cena is the new generation, he needs to beat hhh to continue his strakl, they should do it like goldberg with counting his wins.

If wwe has cena win they will be on top for a long time because he is the steve austin of his era and this is his generation so wwe should drop the past like HHH and go with the future, if HHH wins it will destroy cena and wwe shouldnt lose their newest star because they need him to carry this generation, they cannot rely on hhh and austin forever because they are old and broken down. Cena has new moves like the FU that got impact unlike the moves hhh uses and all the other old guys, Cena is young and is the new generation.
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Angle has an injured neck. He needs to retire because he is not the angle that he is, you people are seeing the angle that used to be, not the angle that is now. I mean, I am a huge fan of angle, but he has just not been like he was a long time ago.

FU is like The Stunner, it has the same type of impact except it's even more impressive, doing a stunner to Big Show is meh but doing a F-U to show is a feat.

I think you people people dislike Cena for one reason, WWE weakening him by having him lose to Edge. That was a mistake.

And Evolution? What did Orton do? Not much. Evolution got heel heat because of HHH!

Holy mother of the Lord. Angle can still wrestle ten times better than most of the roster. Whether he wrestles like he used to is irrelevant--he can still put on a technical extravaganza, especially compared to guys like Cena. The FU is not impressive. It's a standing Fireman's Carry. It's just a drop on the guy's back. The Stunner wasn't any more creative, but it would genuinely knock somebody the fuck out. The FU isn't any more intimidating than a standard powerbomb or spinebuster.

Hardly anybody actually DISLIKES Cena. Cena's not as hyped around here as he used to be because he sucks as a strict face. As a heel or even an anti-face type role, he works. He's entertaining. No matter how badly you might want to deny it, Cena just isn't as entertaining as a face as he is as a heel.

...And to think HHH was the only reason Evolution got heat is just naive.
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Ok several points :

1. Angle did improve his out of ring stuff to compensate for the quality of his in ring stuff, his matches have just been slower and he really needs to take a break. He's just not the man anymore. He needs to step down and let the new generation take over.

2. Angle did not play a proper heel against Cena thats a given. U can see a mile away his cheap heat that he was using and the fans saw that and laughed at it that's why he was getting cheered, because it was so ridiculous that u can't help but laugh. Angle missed the mark here.

3. I didn't really hear any boos for Cena recently unless u count the ones for HHH. Sure a few guys do it just to screw with the show, but that's not real heat.

4. Yea guys personal insults really prove ur point nice work guys!!!!

5. Cena was pretty good as a heel and you know what that shows? V-E-R-S-A-T-I-LITY!!! He can do either one, face or heel and do it well, this is another reason why he is the WWE's newest and biggest star since Austin ( who also could play both parts
 
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Angle has an injured neck. He needs to retire because he is not the angle that he is, you people are seeing the angle that used to be, not the angle that is now.
Has to be a joke Account. Angle crippled > 99% of the roster.

Also, Cena's FU has no impact. The stunner at least looked cool. Even the Rock Bottom had more finesse.
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Also I think the reason Cena gets booed by some people in the crowd is because it is a new trend to boo the faces and cheer the heels, people think it's cool because it is against the usual rules. I put angle partly to blame because he started it with those ridiculous comments that he was making (anti america etc) and people just began to see that it's funny to boo the face.
 
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5. Cena was pretty good as a heel and you know what that shows? V-E-R-S-A-T-I-LITY!!! He can do either one, face or heel and do it well, this is another reason why he is the WWE's newest and biggest star since Austin ( who also could play both parts
Its not called versatality its called being able to play both roles which should be a must for all wrestlers
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not sure its all of it but...
can you hear the boos?
for your imformation they aint booing hhh because when he comes in they are cheering the hell out of him!
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Old 03-11-2006, 07:22 PM   #28
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When you say "end of its reign on top," just what are you talking about?
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I'm talking about TNA becoming #1 in the business
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Also I think the reason Cena gets booed by some people in the crowd is because it is a new trend to boo the faces and cheer the heels, people think it's cool because it is against the usual rules
So HArdy's a heel, Bradshaw's a face, Orton's a face, Michaels is a heel, Rey's a heel, Edge is a face, Show and Kane are heels, Foley's a heel?

Damn, good to know.
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I think I know where the problem is. Like I said, people are reversing what they do for fun because they think it's funny to screw up with the program. I also think they are doing it because they want to hear HHH say something ridiculous (like what angle said when he was anti american etc) , so they cheer to tease him and see what he can do in terms of being heel. They are teasing him because they don't like him.

WWE is to blame for this because they did not have Cena destroy Edge but had him look like a weak star when Edge destroyed him so they kinda ruined his image, now he needs to defeat HHH at wrestlemania to retain his character.
 
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You have to totally ignore like 95% of crowd reactions in order for that to work.
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Also I think the reason Cena gets booed by some people in the crowd is because it is a new trend to boo the faces and cheer the heels, people think it's cool because it is against the usual rules. I put angle partly to blame because he started it with those ridiculous comments that he was making (anti america etc) and people just began to see that it's funny to boo the face.
What?

When a the TOP face (the person who is supposed to be cheered) goes aganist the TOP heel (the person who is supposed to be booed) and is getting booed, you've got a HUGE problem.

Angle was feuding with Cena BEFORE he became anti-American. He was feuding since Unforgiven, four months before the ridiculous comments Angle was making, and quite frankly I don't blame the WWE on trying something radical like that, whether it came out well or not. What's your excuse for September-January? Why was Cena being booed? And don't give me that "it's cool to cheer the heel and boo the face".

News flash, if that was true, Angle would have been face LOOOONG ago. The fans have loved to cheer the anti-authority figure since the Attitude era. (Although you probably don't know anything about that. 1998 was such a long time ago.) Cena was playing it and FAILING.

Cena was and still is failing as a face and the WWE doesn't want to change his gimmick. The WWE fucked him and he will never recover. And if he does, they'll have to do a HUGE heel turn.
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Vermaat your just digging yourself a deeper hole
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I'm talking about TNA becoming #1 in the business
Would that bump CZW up to 2?
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What?

When a the TOP face (the person who is supposed to be cheered) goes aganist the TOP heel (the person who is supposed to be booed) and is getting booed, you've got a HUGE problem.

Angle was feuding with Cena BEFORE he became anti-American. He was feuding since Unforgiven, four months before the ridiculous comments Angle was making, and quite frankly I don't blame the WWE on trying something radical like that, whether it came out well or not. What's your excuse for September-January? Why was Cena being booed? And don't give me that "it's cool to cheer the heel and boo the face".

News flash, if that was true, Angle would have been face LOOOONG ago. The fans have loved to cheer the anti-authority figure since the Attitude era. (Although you probably don't know anything about that. 1998 was such a long time ago.) Cena was playing it and FAILING.

Cena was and still is failing as a face and the WWE doesn't want to change his gimmick. The WWE fucked him and he will never recover. And if he does, they'll have to do a HUGE heel turn.
I don't know what show u were watching but on raw it was a miniority, a large number of people still cheered for cena, u know, a few bad apples ruin a bunch. And like u said, a lot of people cheered angle out of respect because he has given them a lot of entertainment and is old and they realize that so they cheer him for being an elder out of respect. I think Cena was amazing as anti authority especially on Smackdown when he attacked Teddy Long.

I think WWE did screw him up, you're right,but he can recover if he beats HHH
 
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I don't know what show u were watching but on raw it was a miniority, a large number of people still cheered for cena, u know, a few bad apples ruin a bunch. And like u said, a lot of people cheered angle out of respect because he has given them a lot of entertainment and is old and they realize that so they cheer him for being an elder out of respect. I think Cena was amazing as anti authority especially on Smackdown when he attacked Teddy Long.

I think WWE did screw him up, you're right,but he can recover if he loses to HHH and becomes a heel
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And like u said, a lot of people cheered angle out of respect because he has given them a lot of entertainment and is old and they realize that so they cheer him for being an elder out of respect.
I never said they cheered him out of respect.

And lol at that last part about elders. That was a too retarded comment for this to be a serious account.
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