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Old 09-20-2006, 04:13 PM   #1
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I certainly fucking hope not. If the Sox don't make it, I would like to see Oakland or Minnesota against the Dodgers.
Red Sox won't even make the playoffs this year.
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:09 PM   #2
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You need to pay attention son, I'm a White Sox fan.
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:32 PM   #3
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You need to pay attention son, I'm a White Sox fan.
Well I haven't read all of your posts or anything but the White Sox will probably get the Wildcard.
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:38 AM   #4
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:58 AM   #5
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Hopefully the Twins take over the division lead so we get the Tigers first round.
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:46 PM   #6
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:48 PM   #7
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Thw White Sox will probably make the wild card, I think Detroit will fall and won't make the playoffs at all.
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:33 PM   #8
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No way, Detroit and Minnesota are both in, one way or the other.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:30 PM   #9
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And the Yankees clinch the East with the Twins beating Boston.
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Ok, I seriously think Frank Thomas is the MVP of the AL. The amount of time he has single-handedly been the offense for them is ridiculous. He is also the only MVP candidate without an MVP level player(s) batting before or after him--Jeter has ARod and Giambi, Big Roidi has Manny, Dye has Thome and Konerko, Morneau has Mauer (Mauer being MVP level is a stretch but I( think Santana is way more valuable to the Twins than Morneau is anyway). Eric Chavez, Jay Payton and Nick Swisher are certainly above average players but not near the protection of the aforementioned guys. Also, he's been hottest at the end of the season. .329 AVG, 1.185 OPS, 10 HR in September.

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One of my friends today was asking me about who I thought should be MVP. I said Santana, of course he scoffed, but of the five guys (Dye, Ortiz, Jeter, Morneau, Santana) I think he is. So Santana is out since he is a pitcher, I still just couldn't say that Morneau is the MVP. I don't think he is the MVP of the Twins (Santana) and he isn't the best hitter in the league (Ortiz would probably still qualify for this I guess)

I am pretty sure Jeter will be the MVP. Morneau was one of the three best offensive players of the year this year (Ortiz, Hafner, Morneau - IMO), but the Yankees faught through all of that adversity and are such an amazing team that Jeter deserves the lifetime achievement award for being their best player (hint of sarcasm). I personally would rather see Jeter win it than Ortiz or Thome or A-Rod or one of those guys, but I would hardly call him the most valuable player in the American League.

Also, it is officially over for the White Sox now. The magic number for the Twins is at six with 11 games left. So if the Twins can win three of those and the White Sox lose three, it is over. I would be shocked if the Twins haven't clinched it by the last weekend. That also means that Detroit would have to completely fall off, likely lose 10-of-12 games to fuck this up.
The White Sox have underperformed throughout the whole second half, but excuses like a talented pitching staff and Detroit being a fluke have kept it close.
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I am pretty sure Jeter will be the MVP.
I hope not, he doesn't deserve it. The only reason anyone talks about him in the MVP race is because he plays in NY. If he played in KC or Minnesota or somewhere of that sort, no one would even mention him in the same breath as the MVP. Ortiz was right in a way, anyone could hit in that lineup. Not to say he's not talented, but its probably not hard to get hits when you have any combination of A-Rod, Giambi, Sheffield, Abreu etc behind you and Damon in front of you.

The AL MVP should probably be Justin Morneau, considering he's carried that team since about June. But it'll probably wind up being Jermaine Dye, who doesn't really deserve it as much, but will wind up getting it.
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To all of you Detroit haters, I'd just like you to know that come the end of Oct. 1st, Detroit WILL be in...either as the Wild Card, or as the winners of the AL Central in the regular season...yes, Minnesota is only ½ a game behind, but all it would take would be about 5 nights where Minnesota loses and Detroit wins. I hope it doesn't come down to it, but if we have to rely on the White Sox to keep Minnesota at bay at the end of the season, then I wish them the best of luck
 
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To all of you Detroit haters, I'd just like you to know that come the end of Oct. 1st, Detroit WILL be in...either as the Wild Card, or as the winners of the AL Central in the regular season...yes, Minnesota is only ½ a game behind, but all it would take would be about 5 nights where Minnesota loses and Detroit wins. I hope it doesn't come down to it, but if we have to rely on the White Sox to keep Minnesota at bay at the end of the season, then I wish them the best of luck
They'll be in, but they're out in the first round. Detroit is an average hitting team with above average pitching that won't help them because Oakland, Minnesota, and New York all have better pitching.
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They'll be in, but they're out in the first round. Detroit is an average hitting team with above average pitching that won't help them because Oakland, Minnesota, and New York all have better pitching.
Time will tell, but I personally can see where Detroit would take it all this year--they've been waiting 19 years to get back to the playoffs, and are now only 2 games from a guaranteed playoff spot, regardless of whether they win the AL Central. It's time a Detroit team took some initiative and said "Enough is enough. 22 years without a title is too long. We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore!", and then actually did what everyone is calling impossible, and that's winning the [World] Series this year.

Oh, and with Polanco being back in the starting rotation tomorrow's game @ KC (activated from DL today), he will give the Tigers a much needed kick in the pants from now through Oct. 1st, and quite possibly throughout their playoff run...
 
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I don't really get what you just said, but I really don't see the Twins losing five straight games anytime soon.
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I think they will make up 5.5 games in less than two weeks too
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I too would state that Morneau is my candidate for MVP. Jeter has too much protection around him and even so, his numbers are not as impressive IMO as Morneau's. If the WSOX were in the playoffs, I'd be tempted to say Dye, same thing with Ortiz if the RSOX were in the playoffs. I just don't find Jeter's numbers all that impressive.
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I too would state that Morneau is my candidate for MVP. Jeter has too much protection around him and even so, his numbers are not as impressive IMO as Morneau's. If the WSOX were in the playoffs, I'd be tempted to say Dye, same thing with Ortiz if the RSOX were in the playoffs. I just don't find Jeter's numbers all that impressive.
What about Thomas? Numbers are jsut as good as Morneau's, on a playoff team... but he doesn't have the best pitcher of the 21st century on his team
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What about Thomas? Numbers are jsut as good as Morneau's, on a playoff team... but he doesn't have the best pitcher of the 21st century on his team
Yeah good point. I overlooked him for some reason.
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I can understand what you mean about Jeter and I still think the WSOX will make the wildcard and Detroit won't make the playoffs, Scot.
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I don't know if you want to credit Cuddyer's improvement with playing inbetween Morneau and Mauer, but there is kind of an attitude that the Twins as usual don't have a good offense again. I don't know the statistics exactly, but in terms of batting average and those type, they were right up near the top. It is only the power numbers that the Twins are low in. So I wouldn't neccessarily say that Morneau is doing it in a weak lineup per se.
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Ortiz breaks the Red Sox single season homerun record and Beckett throws 8 scoreless againest the Twins tonight. Good to see when they are out of it

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You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, again. You were wrong about the Jays winning the world series, again, or even the Jays making the playoffs, again, or even being in the hunt the second half of the season. You were wrong about Toronto being better than Oakland, again. You have been wrong about everything you have ever said in your life. When will you realize this?
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You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, again. You were wrong about the Jays winning the world series, again, or even the Jays making the playoffs, again, or even being in the hunt the second half of the season. You were wrong about Toronto being better than Oakland, again. You have been wrong about everything you have ever said in your life. When will you realize this?
after tonight, Chacin will have surpassed Blanton in era, further cementing the fact that he's better than Blanton
 
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I think that the A's are kind of overlooked, like they are the worst of the likely playoff teams. I don't know if I agree with that, but I think because they are on the west coast and because the AL West is probably the weakest of the three divisions, he gets unfairly overlooked.
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Alright Twins, lets get the bad play overwith right now, can't let it carry into the playoffs.
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I was rootin for him too.
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The thing about Detroit is that they are a lot like the White Sox of last year, and if their starting pitching comes back a little bit they should be the favorites. The reason why Detroit was so amazing in the first half was because Verlander and Kenny Rogers and the rest of the guys were all unhittable. If the pitching is like it has been the last month or so, they are 1-and-out, but if it comes back they should win it all.
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The thing about Detroit is that they are a lot like the White Sox of last year, and if their starting pitching comes back a little bit they should be the favorites. The reason why Detroit was so amazing in the first half was because Verlander and Kenny Rogers and the rest of the guys were all unhittable. If the pitching is like it has been the last month or so, they are 1-and-out, but if it comes back they should win it all.
But you completely missed my point. since mid-August when Polanco went on the DL, look at how poorly the Tigers have played WITHOUT JUST THIS ONE PLAYER. Now, I'm not gonna say that they haven't been producing as much offense as the should have in some of those games or that we havent had some sloppy gameplay or pitching. But I'd be willing to bet that Placido Polanco will be a MAJOR factor in the playoffs for Detroit IF he can stay healthy the whole time.
 
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I'm willing to bet so too.
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