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Old 11-04-2009, 11:43 PM   #281
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Here's a good reason: Hype up Marcus Jones. He's a big guy (bigger than Kimbo), an interesting character (like Kimbo), and he has something called TALENT. He earned his fucking spot.

Another reason: Hype up the Dana vs. Roy feud. I honestly like how Roy isn't sucking at the teet of the Vince McMahon of MMA, just like everyone else. That's what Dana hates. That and the fact that he isn't the prototypical mold for MMA fighters (hell, THAT'S a marketing tool in and of itself) and that he killed the Kimbo Hype-train (which is ANOTHER marketing tool in and of itself).
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I'm hoping for a finals consisting of some combo of Wren/Marcus/Nelson personally. Saddens me that everybody I want to win has to fight Nelson so early though. I didn't expect Kimbo to win, but I would of liked to see him advance a time or two just for fun. I just hope Wren can avoid getting caught in that crucifix like Kimbo did.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:00 PM   #283
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I can't help but think that Dana White has his hands all over the Wren/Nelson fight selection.

He claimed that something about Roy rubs him the wrong way, as if he doesn't know. And it's not the "He's Cocky" bullshit he's trying to say it is. By that logic, Junie Browning would have been long gone. Dana's fucking transparent as all hell. Let me spell it out.

1. He's fat. Why else would a former IFL Heavyweight Champion be in the Ultimate Fighter, and not in the UFC already?

2. He won't kiss Dana's ass. 'Shad felt he had an ego problem at first, but then pointed out that everything he did up to this point was on his own. Be it training, booking fights, getting sponsors, you name it. That's not the kind of person who's gonna suck up. That pisses Dana and his planet-sized ego up. Add to that, he isn't gonna listen to Dana when he tells you how he wants you to fight (See the past few fights of Sherk, Sean for an example of the above).

3. He derailed the Kimbo Hype-Train. Bitch about how he did it all you want, but he did it. And he made the Internet Sensation named Kevin Fergusson look completely impotent in the process. Slice couldn't get out of Crucifix, and he lost the fight. Do you know how much money that cost White? He seriously could have hyped Big Baby or Nelson himself more to prevent this disaster.

The thing is, there's really only 2 guys on Nelson's level: Wren and Jones. Honestly, if Nelson beats Wren, I wouldn't doubt him somehow getting matched up with Marcus Jones in the Semis. And the finals sucking ass as a result.
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same here. Seriously though, I think Dana should fucking get over himself. Roy derailed the Kimbo hype-train, and he explained why he did it the way he did.

Also, I think the guys from Team Rampage should have taken 'Shad up on his offer. They might actually BENEFIT from having a coach.

Another thing, wtf with more "Is Kimbo coming back?" bullshit.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:26 PM   #286
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Rampage is a loser, seriously.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:08 PM   #287
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Marcus Jones is gonna make it far in the Ultimate Fighter in SPITE of Rampage, not because of him.
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You know Rampage quitting makes me wonder how far Marcus gets in the show. I mean was taping done when he left, or did he leave when his last fighter lost?
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Apparently Matt Mitrione does actually have to leave due to injury. I have to wonder if they'll bring Kimbo back or a guy like Dimico.
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serves him right for having the blocking skill of a double amputee
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:28 PM   #292
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C'mon, that congenital quadruple amputee had better blocking skill...

*shifty*

Seriously, though, Roy Nelson will look damned smart if it is indeed the case.
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Doesn't matter what Nelson did. He's still an ass and rubs people the wrong way. You can even see it in the comment his own coach Rashad said to him during the fight selection.

And I think Rashad has become cocky and instigated the last thing. He could have made the offer and then back off but he didn't and he keeps on talking after. Rampage walked away but Rashad kept on talking. In fact I think he starts most of the shit and Rampage can only stand up for himself.
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Oh so it's ok for Rampage to talk shit but not Rashad? Plus, Rashad is trying to help the fighters, I don't see the big deal. And trust me, I was not a Rashad fan until this show.
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I think Rashad starts a majority of the verbal exchanges with small comments here and there. Not saying Rampage is any more mature about it but Shad definitely provokes the shit out of him.
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See, I'm not the only one who sees it. I didn't say it's okay but Rampage is Rampage. What can you really expect from him? He's not a coach and he goofs off when things aren't serious. Then you have Rashad who is trying to help the fighters and acting like a coach but at the same time he's being cocky and full of himself because his team is 7-1 and provokes Rampage.

It's like an older kid poking a pitbull with a stick and thinks he's okay because the dog is chained up but keeps poking it and all the dog can do is bark. I'm not a Rashad fan but there was one point on the show where I actually started to like him and respect him. Then he keeps doing this stuff and all that went through the window. But I guess the show wouldn't be so entertaining without this stuff going on.
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Fucking delighted Big Baby won, loved him from the first show. Wanna see Wren ruin Nelson as well.
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Old 11-08-2009, 02:27 AM   #299
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With proper training I think a few of these guys could be decent. Marcus is definitely the big star this year, but I'm also looking at Schoonover, Wren, Demico and the dude who beat him (can never remember the guy's name) as definitely getting into the UFC.
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Probably McSweeney too, I guess.
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i kind of like the guy but how fucking boring are the faceoffs? these guys are idiots. rampage is huge and way more experienced, he'd kill the guy. i know it's a whole big tough alpha male thing but sometimes you need to learn to take a joke, and also to realize when you'll get your fuck knocked in.
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I gave that fight 20-18 to Roy Nelson.

You gotta love how Dana White just doesn't like this guy.
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Who actually won the fight? Won't be able to watch it.
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lol Dana's Nelson hate is completely ridiculous. But w/e, wins a win.
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And Roy won.
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Who actually won the fight? Won't be able to watch it.
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Alright, thought I wouldn't be able to see it but I'm watching it now. Roy won the first round to me for sure. Justin pressed forward more but Roy was great at being evasive and working counter punches. You can tell Roy is a veteran. He knows exactly what the judges want to see.
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And then he took over in the 2nd round. And Dana was all "Roy got his ass kicked by Justin" that's why this fight was entertaining!
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Yeah, Dana is pretty much being a major biased shithead about it. Justin had some explosive moments but Roy did a masterful job diffusing his momentum by utilizing his jab and his evasiveness.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:39 AM   #311
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wren looked more likely to finish the fight though. its a weird one i guess.
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:29 AM   #312
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I thought the first round was very close, but in the last minute Roy won in it my mind as Wren kept swinging and missing.

I really want to see one of these fights this season make the second round without someone with their hands on their hips for half the second round.

Someone should take the Homer Simpson strategy of just taking all the hits for the first round and then in the second just nudge his opponent over. With this group the strategy might just work.
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:48 AM   #313
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It's kind of sad that the fattest guy in the house has the best cardio lol
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:58 AM   #314
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he has the most experience.... hes been in the deep water many times where as I would bet that every other guy hasnt had more than one fight go the distance
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:20 PM   #315
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Well, Big Country got past Wren. That thing called "experience" is a bitch. Cardio is a funny thing. It exposes people who look like they're in shape to actually not be and vice versa.

Wren will be back, he's a good fighter and has potential. I think this fight will be a learning experience for him and he'll come back 100x better.

Now, 3 more weeks until we find out about Marcus Jones vs. Roy Nelson in the Semis.
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I think all these guys would get WRECKED by the current fighters in the Heavyweight Division. I am trying to picture some of these guys fighting Lesnar, Kongo, Velasquez, Carwin, Nog, Mir, Dos Santos, Herring or even Cro Cop and having it be a close fight, but I can't.

The only one I can see putting up a fight is Marcus Jones. Even then, I was not too impressed with his Zombie-esque stand up.
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Though he did almost take that arm home with him as he said he was looking to do...
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ummm... other than the 4th season, none of the guys on TUF ever have been big time fighters while on the show so compairing how they would do to the top 5 in the division is retarded
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:01 PM   #319
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Wren is only 22. Another few years aof training will go a long way on his cardio. Cardio is the key to this season.
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I hate Nelson. Dude isa slob. But hes been fighting a long time and that lets him outlast the rookies.
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