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Old 09-23-2006, 03:31 AM   #3161
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I think Bonderman, Verlander, Johnson and Rogers will be more important than Polanco if the Tigers make the playoffs.
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Old 09-23-2006, 09:12 AM   #3162
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btw Miz have you checked Blanton's stats lately? none too impressive
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You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, again. You were wrong about the Jays winning the world series, again, or even the Jays making the playoffs, again, or even being in the hunt the second half of the season. You were wrong about Toronto being better than Oakland, again. You have been wrong about everything you have ever said in your life. When will you realize this?
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Ahh, it sure feels good to not have to be stressed about the Mets dropping 3 in a row again

They'd better end the season on a winning note though, need them to go into the playoffs hot.
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How the fuck have Seattle crept back up to nearly .500? If they were NL they'd probably be division champions by now


Apparently Sheff looked fairly decent at 1B last night. With Matsui and Sheff back, and presumably Giambi at DH, it looks like Melky will be taking a seat
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Sucks. Melky is by far our best defender out there. Damon has a decent glove (no arm) and Abreu is pretty good I guess (tentative though). Melky has a fucking cannon arm and is fearless though AND he's been hitting well. He's one of the guys who got us here.
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Old 09-23-2006, 02:42 PM   #3166
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Gustavo Chacin83151500077.777421735424.871.444.871.20

You were wrong about Chacin being better than Blanton, again. You were wrong about the Jays winning the world series, again, or even the Jays making the playoffs, again, or even being in the hunt the second half of the season. You were wrong about Toronto being better than Oakland, again. You have been wrong about everything you have ever said in your life. When will you realize this?
after tonight, Chacin will have surpassed Blanton in era, further cementing the fact that he's better than Blanton
 
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If the Tigers make the playoffs, which they will, I'll be cheering them on all the way. Hero loves the underdog.
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:44 PM   #3170
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Sucks. Melky is by far our best defender out there. Damon has a decent glove (no arm) and Abreu is pretty good I guess (tentative though). Melky has a fucking cannon arm and is fearless though AND he's been hitting well. He's one of the guys who got us here.
Yup, huge downgrade on defense with Matsui out there. Damon and Matsui have two of the weakest arms I have ever seen in my life. Not to mention Matsui never was the defensive wizard out there, seen him misjudge balls hit to him many times.

I can't even imagine how our defense will be out there when Damon/Matsui are in the tail end of their contracts.
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Guys, the AL is a very offensive league. Outfield defense is very low on the list of priorities. I would much rather have Matsui's bat in the lineup than Melky's defense. Besides, you can replace Matsui with Melky in a defensive moment of the game. As for Damon, well he's got a weak arm, but he gets a great jump/read off balls and catches many balls that other outfielders would not. That makes up for his weak arm. That's how I see it anyway.
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I can't even imagine how our defense will be out there when Damon/Matsui are in the tail end of their contracts.
I'd wager that Matsui'll be DH'ing by that point
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Yankees are going to fuck up all their chemistry and lose out in the ALDS.

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TIGERS 15, ROYALS 4, FINAL!

1 MORE WIN FOR DETROIT TO CLINCH THEIR FIRST PLAYOFF SPOT SINCE 1987!!!

But we're still gonna win the AL Central division title, and then take the pennant in the ALCS round of the playoffs, then the World Series. Oh it's true...
 
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Old 09-24-2006, 12:00 AM   #3178
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Yeah I too will be pulling for the Tigers up until the WS if they have to clash with the Mets, my mom's b/f is a diehard Detroit fan plus its a fucking great story all around
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Detroit winning would suck because the already incredible amount of Jim leyland dick sucking would only multiply. It's getting tiring already
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It wouldn't suck nearly as bad as a repeat of the 2000 New York (Yankees vs. Mets) Subway [World] Series ( ) tho...I've come to the conclusion that teams from N.Y. in baseball, especially the Damn Yankees, are evil...
 
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Since it doesn't look like the defending champs will make the playoffs... I will be silently rooting for the A's... and only because of Frank Thomas.

This is going to be a loooooooooooong offseason.

As far as I see it, the only guys that are guaranteed to come back next year are Dye, Thome, and Konerko.

This is going to suck. Serious.

At least the Bears have a good chance this year.
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Another fine outing by Blanton
 
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If you look at all the teams that are in the playoffs, save for San Diego and Detroit (where I'm at) you hear tons of side stories and all that jazz. I hear nothing about Detroit, I hear nothing about San Diego. Through the whole season, people have been dismissing Detroit, very much like the WSOX where last year. You get lots of "yes but" when people talk about them. Shit, that there's the Padres. Nothing is spoken about them. In fact they are so overlooked that even I, a fan of theirs, completely forget about them.
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Detroit has gotten a lot of credit this year IMO, and a lot of people, including me, thought they were legit up until the last month or so. That might just be because we both play in the AL Central though.

To be honest, still the only teams that get a lot of coverage are the Yankees and Red Sox.
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I don't mind Detroit coverage, it's much better than meaningless crap about ARod and Manny all the time. I just hate that all they ever talk about is Jim Leyland and how great he is. They don't attribute any of the success to the pitching, it's all because Jim Leyland waved his magic wand and "got them to play as a team" or some bullshit
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Lol. I remember when I said that Billy Beane was overrated and got attacked until I was bloody. I think he is one of the best GM's in the league, no doubt, but I think he could have signed some of his good players to longterm contracts before they were too expensive, a la Johan Santana in Minnesota for example. Now, after this season Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau will be locked up before they demand too much. That is why I think Terry Ryan is the best GM, Beane second.

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You are under the false impression that players are willing to sign contract extensions during the season. If you're Miguel Tejada and you're in the prime of your career with an MVP already under your belt, are you gonna sign Beane's so-so deal in the middle of the season or wait till after the season when Baltimore, Boston and Anaheim can all try to outbid eachother. The owners were not going to stretch the payroll to let Beane sign Tejada, and he was clearly more interested in money (Baltimore) than winning (Oakland). I don't know what more people wanted Billy Beane to do.

I will agree that he is overrated in the sense that he gets too much credit for the moves the A's made from 2001-2003. I think those moves were to the tribute of the team of Billy Beane, JP Ricciardi, Paul DePodesta, Dwayne Fuson etc. Now that those three guys are gone, Beane's moves haven't been nearly as good.

And Beane does way much more for the A's than Leyland does for the Tigers
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Another win for Gustavo. Maybe he'll hold a pitching clinic during the off season and show Blanton how to finish a season strong
 
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We can't all be so lucky as the Blue Jays to have Baltimore and Tampa Bay in the same division.
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Oh but theres New York and Boston too.

A's record against them: 12-6
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Old 09-24-2006, 06:20 PM   #3196
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With todays loss, the Atlanta Braves have been eliminated from the playoffs for the first time in like 14 years. I've always kinda liked the Braves because of Dale Murphy and then in recent times Chipper Jones. Now I like a lot of teams over them, and it's about time to see fresh blood in the NL, but you can't but help feel sorry for a franchise that has so much success in the regular season, fail so miserably in the playoffs. All those years in the playoffs and only one World Series Victory.
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Old 09-24-2006, 06:22 PM   #3197
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I am the same. I used to always like the Braves, but their time is done now.

Also, how long has Jamie Moyer been on the Phillies?
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:08 PM   #3198
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AL West > AL East. Baltimore and Tampa Bay are horshit. Only Seattle is horeshit in the west, that's half as many teams to beat up on. Oakland is absolutely better than Toronto no matter from what aspect you look at it. I'm sure Gertner thinks Toronto would win the west but people with brains realize this to be false.
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I would say that Seattle is still > Baltimore and Tampa Bay
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