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Old 10-15-2019, 01:37 PM   #1
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I genuinely feel that Seth Rollins has no backbone (Rollins on Graves' podcast)

The way his character has been portrayed for a while, it seems like they're serving him steaming piles of shit and he gladly eats it up because he's happy to be there. Don't get me wrong, financial security is important but even Dean Ambrose / Jon Moxley walked away when he realized he was stuck in a rut and not growing as a performer. I also have a theory that Rollins isn't just the teacher's pet or "the company man", he's just not that bright. While he's main-eventing PPVs and major shows, his partner is clearly the superior performer and champion. Last night's Firefly segment killed any and all hope I had in him. Fuck him!



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Old 10-15-2019, 01:57 PM   #2
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I think it has more to do with nobody in WWE knowing how to portray a main event face other than as a hard worker with a good attitude and a catchphrase.

Rollins is just the latest example, but every single time they push anyone remotely interesting up the card as a face, they become the exact same character.
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I’m trying to think of the last time they pushed a face to the main event and he didn’t become that character.
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I think it has more to do with nobody in WWE knowing how to portray a main event face other than as a hard worker with a good attitude and a catchphrase.

Rollins is just the latest example, but every single time they push anyone remotely interesting up the card as a face, they become the exact same character.
Agreed.

Also, while folks like to reminisce his heel turn (J&J Security and The Authority), I don't remember him giving any stellar performances on the mic. He'd often flub, his opening segment promos would go on forever, and not to mention the over the top reactions.
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Iím trying to think of the last time they pushed a face to the main event and he didnít become that character.
I'd say Becky Lynch and the recent iteration of Charlotte Flair. Styles was a pushed act for a while, and while he had some terrible lines during his feud with Samoa Joe, he was overwhelmingly better than Rollins.
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Becky Lynch is absolutely boring now. Come on.
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Styles is a good one.
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Becky Lynch is absolutely boring now. Come on.
Her character has certainly gotten stale but it doesn't follow the same format as Rollins' (or that of the typical face of the company).
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It also doesn’t help that nobody can cut a promo anymore, but even good talkers like the Miz, Ambrose, Sheamus, and Owens become bland as soon as they get pushed as a face.
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Agreed. Other than Styles, I can't think of a single face champion in recent times who was revered by everyone.
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As much as I loved the WM match, Kofi's title reign was below average at best.
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That one promo segment against Orton where he showed some personality.
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WWE have forgotten you’re supposed to want to live vicariously through babyfaces. It doesn’t help matters that hardly anyone has main event instincts anymore.
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I am listening to Rollins on Corey Graves' new podcast and it's absolutely pathetic. Instead of taking ownership of the issue, he's resorted to calling the fans fickle.
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Seth is such a weiner. He’s like that kid who buys the teacher a present and looks around the class to see who notices. Whenever the teacher chastises the class, he’s like “I wasn’t doing that.”
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I am listening to Rollins on Corey Graves' new podcast and it's absolutely pathetic. Instead of taking ownership of the issue, he's resorted to calling the fans fickle.
He's not wrong though y'all use to beat off to everything he did but y'all get sensitive about Twitter comments.

Yall use to love Sasha,Baylee,Becky and Charlotte but I see mostly bitching about all 4 now.

Use to hate Roman but people are starting to like him some.

Ziggler's lame ass yall use to love but seem to hate now.
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He's not wrong though y'all use to beat off to everything he did but y'all get sensitive about Twitter comments.

Yall use to love Sasha,Baylee,Becky and Charlotte but I see mostly bitching about all 4 now.

Use to hate Roman but people are starting to like him some.

Ziggler's lame ass yall use to love but seem to hate now.
Are you suggesting that we are not blind followers and call it like it is?
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Are you suggesting that we are not blind followers and call it like it is?
I'm suggesting if you are a fan of someone then shouldn't turn on them cause of something they have little control over.
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I'm suggesting if you are a fan of someone then shouldn't turn on them cause of something they have little control over.
I am pretty sure Rollins had some control over his twitter posts.
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There's still the others though
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What about them? They're being complacent and being handsomely compensated for it. They're also not above whining on Twitter. There's certainly room for valid criticism when folks have supported and invested so heavily in those characters.
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In what other form of entertainment would the fans be responsible for not liking something as opposed to the people producing the product being responsible for making something people like? It’s an insane excuse that only seems to exist in WWE’s world.
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Gaming?

Although guess more in the sense of people being in bewilderment of why others don't like genuinely good games and/or blame others for some good games flopping in sales while stuff that is generally despised keeps dominating in sales.
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Well yeah. That’s fans blaming other fans. I’m talking the company blaming others. You usually don’t hear about gaming companies blaming the fans for not liking their games and just making the same shit while telling fans they should like what they get. That would be ridiculous.
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Yeah you're right. At most you might get a disgruntled employee or someone higher up lashing out because of a certain instance but then get quickly punished or fired for it. WWE is pretty much on another level when it comes to being petty over fan reactions.

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