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Is the WWE saving Edge vs HHH?
This fued seems like something that should have happened by now. It was teased a few times, but has never really been properly done.
For the past few years, I've actually suspected it might be used for one of the Wrestlemania title matchups. Still, it hasn't been done. With all of the fueds that have occured in WWE, and been re-done, do you think there is a motive to this fresh one not being used? |
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Wasn't it rumored that HHH was supposed to feud with Edge in the spring of 2006 (after the HHH/Cena/Edge match at Backlash where HHH spinebustered Lita), and Hunter nixed the idea? I dunno, it sounds like a typical bs dirtsheet, but you never know. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the plan, since HHH was on his way to turning babyface anyway to re-form DX.
Also, I thought they were going to fight last year on WM, since they were both Champions on the same show, and they would unify the titles, forcing RAW to create a new belt. But, that didn't happen either... The only PPV match they had together was at GAB 08, which had 3 weeks of build, and was centered around the Edge/Vickie story, so you're right, it's never gotten its true match-up, which is really confusing. It seems as though Edge has had programs with just about everyone else in the entire company except HHH. |
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Was that PPV a singles match? I don't even remember that.
The only interactions I recall them having were being part of a few triple threat PPV matches and fueds. And of course the tag team fued between DX and Rated RKO. Other than that, their interactions have been limited mostly to random promos and television tag matches. |
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Yea, you're right. GAB 08. I must have blinked and missed that. In any event, I still don't think it's been done properly and really reached fued status.
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They had a short feud back when HHH was still on SD back in 08. HHH "leaked" the Vivkie Guerrero "nudes"
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Yeah, it happened at the Bash in 08, same card with Punk vs. Batista and HBK vs. Jericho..but still, the match wasn't built around the heat between Hunter and Edge, and it really felt like they were still holding onto this match for a later date. It was very rushed and forgettable. Not sure why these two haven't gotten a chance to make some money together in a blood feud. It'd be pretty awesome
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Other than GAB 2008 they havent really had a feud or a match. I guess they must be saving it then. Kind of weird they are saving that one though as it doesnt seem like that spectacular of a feud.
I wonder if they dont have the best chemistry with each other? I remember The Rock and Undertaker never having a great match or feud, could be something like that. |
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Yeah wow Franchise, good point. Now that you mention it, Taker and Rock never had a long program together, but rather just a couple of 3 or 4 week programs a few years apart. Kinda weird...
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That's why I think they're saving it. WWE conserves it's fueds and creates dream matches, so they mean something when they actually happen.
I actually like this. They don't just jump the gun and do everything ASAP. Edge vs Christian, or a tag team reunion is an example of this. I think Edge and Christian vs The Hardys was another they were holding onto for a rainy day, but now Jeff is slumming. CM Punk vs Michaels would be a nice one. But now Shawn is winding down, and possibly close to done, so maybe they waited too long on that one. |
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Edge vs HHH strikes me as a good Summerslam main event
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I think they are saving Taker vs. Cena moreso than Edge vs. HHH
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Actually, Shawn Michaels and Edge never really had it out either. They had a match at a Taboo Tuesday, and a streetfight once on Raw, but they never really went all out
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Another pair being Austin/Jericho and HHH/Angle
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Looking back, Austin faced Jericho, Rock faced Taker and HHH faced Angle all at No Way Out 2002!
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I have my fingers crossed for Heel John Cena vs Taker at WM 28 (Taker would be going for 20-0 here). Not sure who he would face next year.
If he faces Cena at WM 27 maybe we will get Vince vs 19-0 Taker? |
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This is exactly the kind of feud I was thinking of when I voted in the "Who's a better face Orton or Edge" poll earlier. This would be the kind of feud that would absolutely demolish a face Edge character.
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Personally, I'd rather them do something else, but I could definitely see them going that route. Punk and Jericho would both be great fueds, but I don't think anyone would really buy either of them having a shot of snapping the streak. They've really pushed the threat in recent years, so I think they'd go with something to keep fans guessing. You're probably right about Vince. Outside of Cena, he might be the best choice as far as a threat is concerned. The fans would probably be really nervous of Mr. McMahon snapping the streak through some ridiculous chain of events. I do like the idea of him making it to a 20th match. I don't know if he will though. They might want to do Cena/Taker next year, while they can. |
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They should probably do it next year, yeah I agree. Taker probably will be quite detiorirated by 2012. Maybe Punk will be a much bigger star by then or as you said HHH would be a solid choice. They could even put him in a Triple Threat for a World Title (which would make increase the chance of the streak breaking since he could lose without even being pinned) and that way the other two guys could do most of the work if Taker isnt physically able to go at his best anymore.
Will be interesting to see. |
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Also lol @ my spelling of deteriorated
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Im willing to bet that Edge gets drafted back to RAW next month so this Edge/HHH thing will probably happen soon.
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That is true. I can see that happening too. I hope the big swap this year is Edge ---> RAW and Cena ---> SD. Then I hope we get a HHH heel turn. So RAW has Batista and HHH as the top heels with Edge and Orton as the top faces. Face Edge/Heel HHH, Face Edge/Heel Batista, Face Orton/Heel Batista.... all huge feuds that are fresh. Then SD gets the needed star power in Cena and we can see the new and improved Y2J vs Cena, Punk vs Cena etc
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I'd like to see the Edge/Jericho fued continue on Smackdown, and involve Christian. The 3 of them have always had great chemistry, and a 3 way fued for the world title would be fantastic. It could also lead to the reunion or fued of E&C.
If they reunite this year, I'd like to see them take on another super team. If Edge headed to Raw instead, HHH and Batista reuniting could work. If Hunter turned heel, which is long overdue. They could build off their Evolution past. With the way Batista's been performing as a heel, the two of them could be pretty great as a two man power trip. It would be worth it for the heat they'd get during their promos alone. They could take out Cena in kayfabe, and that would give him some time off that he's been rumored to be taking after Wrestlemania. It would add to their heat, and set up for Cena's big return at Summerslam, which I'm sure WWE would love all the way to the bank. |
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I'd really like to see a WarGames this year. I hope it's the PPV that replaces Survivor Series.
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if we see a trips heel turn sometime this year (which looks likely) then I could see a possible Edge vs HHH fued this year althow it may not happen considering they haven't had a real fued in all this time...... I think there might be a conspiracy going on
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They had a heel vs heel match before Wrestlemania 21 too. I think it was in Japan. I believe the show ended with Batista raising Triple H's arm but staring at the World Heavyweight Title (this is before he used his Rumble title shot) and HHH looking at Batista staring at his title. Amazing end to RAW.
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I can't believe this is Edge and Jericho's first real PPV match. It's their first big match since that awesome cage match on Smackdown in 2002.
I guess it's just circumstances that caused them to go this long without a proper fued. Edge really wasn't a single star on Jericho's level until 2002, and then he got injured. Then Jericho was on hiatus during Edge's rise to the main event. Really glad it's happening finally, let alone at a Wrestlemania, and for a world title to boot. |
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I know man. I'm so stoked for this Mania. I could talk about it all week and probably will. Other than Taker-HBK obviously, this is going to probably be a mid-late card show stealer. (Eddie/Angle, Savage/Flair style). I am hoping they go between 15 and 20 minutes. Not too many false finishes because Taker/HBK and Cena/Batista will be jammed with those. Looks like the match will probably be built around Edge gunning for the SPEAR and Jericho doing all he can to avoid it. Mixed in with other awesomeness. If Edge is going to win, I hope Jericho kicks out of one spear. If Edge loses, I am guessing Edge wont hit the spear at all??
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When attempting spear, beware of codebreaker
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What kind of time breakdown do you think we'll see for the matches?
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My guess (128 min of wrestling time)
Tag Titles - 6 min MITB - 12 min Rey/Punk - 10 min Legacy Triple Threat - 9 min HHH/Sheamus - 11 min Edge/Jericho - 17 min Bret/Vince - 14 min Taker/HBK - 27 min Cena/Batista - 22 min I dunno. You know what is interesting? The WWE have updated their Mania site and now the match at the top of card is Taker vs HBK followed by Bret vs Vice then the WWE Title and the World Title is now fourth. |
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I looked at the past two Mania cards and strangely enough, they both add up to 119 minutes of matches.
I think they made those cards stretch a bit more with concerts and non-wrestling segments though. I would supsect, given the card this year, that there will be a bit more time given to the matches. Not a ton, but a bit more. 128 minutes is a good guess. I'd guess 130, and go with Tag Titles - 6 min MITB- 12 min Rey/Punk - 10 min Legacy- 9 min HHH/Sheamus - 8 min Edge/Jericho - 20 min Bret/Vince -10 min Taker/HBK - 35 min Cena/Batista - 20 min |
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Quite bored tonight as one could probably tell
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I kinda wish the show ran an extra half hour so they could give Rey/Punk an extra 5 minues, and maybe a few minutes here and there to the MITB and Tag Titles matchups. I really do think matches like HHH/Sheamus and Legacy will be much better off with reasonable time limits though.
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Looks like we talked about the encounter at GAB '08 but nobody posted it...
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Is it a rule now to post videos of matches we talk about?
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Why didnt they just do 4.5 or even 5 hours? They could have thrown in a diva match or a battle royale in. WM XX was 5 I think |
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DAMN iNATOR, I don't know what the fuck you're on but that match never happened. The videos you posted are clearly fakes. There's been a lot of these going around the internet lately. Usually with bad CGI or low rent stunt doubles. This one looks like a mix of both, and some SvR gameplay.
Next time I suggest you check your sources before making an ass out of yourself in my thread. |
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