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04-10-2010, 12:54 AM
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Little things you'd change in WWE
Ring logos...like on Monday Night Raw, the centre of the ring should have a big Raw logo, like how WCW used to do. It looks so much cooler this way.
House show promos. I don't personally care about this but it might help business. You know those local commercials promoting WWE house shows? Why did they stop having wrestlers cut promos about the upcoming matches on those house shows? They stopped doing that about 10 years ago for some reason. More tournaments. Do they still use tag ropes? If not, then bring it back. I know they brought them back maybe like 7-8 years ago but not sure if they're still there. More managers for guys that aren't great on the mic. Arn Anderson should be someone's manager for sure. Heel Jerry Lawler. Sign some Japanese female wrestlers. Get rid of the WWE spinner belt. It looks terrible. Titles should never be customized in my opinion. I think it devalues the title. Imagine the Stanley Cup being customized for the Pittsburgh Penguins. The same title should be held by each winner. There is something cool about John Cena holding the same exact belt as Bret Hart once did. Bring back the eagle belt. |
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04-10-2010, 01:23 AM
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Samurai Rocker
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First things first, get rid of the fucking spinner belt (I hated that design since day one).
Fire the women who don't know how to wrestle, unless they're going to be managers or valets. Develop a talent exchange with promotions all around the world (NJPW, AJPW, NOAH, Zero1, AAA, CMLL, Stampede, etc.) to develop the ultimate international flavor and competition. Get rid of the whole PG bullshit. Focus less on entertainment, and focus more on wrestling: the way it should be. |
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04-10-2010, 01:32 AM
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Get a poke on
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I think they should make moves that result in them making less money too
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04-10-2010, 10:42 AM
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TPWW's #3 Peep
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The most obvious one for me is to cut all this PG13 crap. Stopping matches due to bleeding? After some of the total bloodbaths WWE has had over the years, this is bullshit!
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04-10-2010, 10:52 AM
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Legit heels!! Im tired of seeing a bunch of faces run around the ring and not have anyone thats worth anything to put them against. How can you develop future faces when Sheamus and Randy orton is who they have to outsmart
Also Ive noticed that Pro-wrestling (WWE and TNA alike) dont put enough emphasis on PPV. It used to be that when a feud started they were talk trash to each other and then their show down at the PPV was the end all be able.....now they throw a match or two on the night before. |
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04-10-2010, 10:55 AM
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emerge
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"I'll be much happier when he's dead"
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04-10-2010, 12:07 PM
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Dropping the PG13 crap is not a small thing. Though on that note, I'd keep it. It's the writers that have to go. Find some people who can make it fun.
More to the topic: Heel commentary in general. I miss having someone to utterly hate for supporting the bad guys. I like the idea of three man teams, because you can have a face/heel dynamic and still have someone who's more a sportscaster. |
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04-10-2010, 12:14 PM
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Tongue my Fartbox
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04-10-2010, 12:44 PM
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Black Sheep Jew
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1. It is TV-PG...Not PG-13. The only time this bothers me is when the action is stopped due to minor cuts and what not when a wrestler is accidentally opened up the hard way. The fact remains that without the use of blood as a gimmick (much like TNA has been doing), it forces the wrestlers to wrestle better. Basically I feel it makes the wrestlers try harder to put on memorable matches without being able to just bloody themselves. Hard way & blood is kinda cheap when you think about it. It's kind of a cop out. A bloody match people will be all like - That match was SICK and obviously fought very hard because there was tons of blood. Well now, the workers have to increase their skill level to reach that level of "SICK' by not relying on blood...Just talent and good in-ring storytelling.
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04-10-2010, 12:46 PM
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Black Sheep Jew
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Do you honestly think Taker vs HBK would have been better if they were laying in pools of blood? Nah not really. Those 2 matches are already known as 2 of the best wrestling matches of all time by many.
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04-10-2010, 01:13 PM
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I love these newbies that pop out of nowhere everyday. They feel so accomplished when they think that they have sorted out the greatest flaws in pro wrestling
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04-10-2010, 01:26 PM
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UNPREDICTABILITY.
It is badly needed. WWE has showed some of it recently like when Shameus won the world title or when Swagger cashed it in, but even there, you knew Swagger was gonna win when he came out with the case. What WWE needs is to surprise us once in a while in a big way. For example, have Swagger run out to cash it in but LOSE for example by having somebody interfere and beat Swagger up as he is cashing in. And there definetely need to be more controversy, I know PG rating is still, but you can still make some controversy even in PG. |
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04-10-2010, 02:51 PM
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Black Sheep Jew
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spoilers & news sites, in my humble opinion, play a minor role in killing the unpredictability in wrestling.
Remember the Attitude Era? You would have RAW guys disappear and then show up in WCW that very night. While internet was available back then it was nowhere near as widely used. One of the reasons the Attitude Era was so wonderful was because you never knew what was going to happen on any given show! Now we have spoilers and news sites giving away details that were not available back then to the mass general consensus. Case and point: Rabid internet fanboys posted weeks in advance that Undertaker was going to win against HBK at Wrestlemania 26. They sited that Shawn was telling friends he planned on retiring. While it did not affect my viewing of the match, that certain level of unpredicability was lost even before the bell rung. Maybe I'm just old school. But yeah, I try not to read the spoilers and dirt sheets much as it does help kill the vibe. Maybe you should try that before blaming WWE for being predictable. EDIT: WWE did a wonderful job at Royal Rumble when John Cena returned to win the thing. Also, there was no hard proof (that I'm aware of) that Edge was backstage and was set to win the event. While I know that one was heavily speculated these are just 2 of many unpredictable things WWE has done recently.... Also, did you expect Vince's limo to explode? I sure didn't. Last edited by Schlomey; 04-10-2010 at 02:53 PM. |
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04-10-2010, 02:53 PM
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They didn't need it, but imagine if Shawn was wearing the crimson mask when he was crawling up Taker for the slap, his blood smearing all over Taker's chest. It would have added drama to the moment, for sure. |
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04-10-2010, 02:55 PM
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Black Sheep Jew
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I agree to an extent Xero......It does add a little extra. But the thing is, that moment was so intense they pulled off spectacular without going bloody...and for that they deserve the hype that the match gets.
They got that SICK match without the blood...Which was the point of my rant :-P |
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04-10-2010, 02:57 PM
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He's Here
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I agree.
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04-10-2010, 02:59 PM
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Black Sheep Jew
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I'm glad you concur. Because I know I am correct :-P
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04-10-2010, 03:00 PM
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TPWW's Hardcore Legend
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and sometimes it doesn't even make sense, remember elimination chamber hhh gets an awesome ddt from randy orton onto the mesh of the elimination chamber, no blood the miz botches a headbutt, blood everywhere |
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04-10-2010, 03:10 PM
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He's Here
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I agree that they're going too far to keep bleeding out of it, especially with hard way, which should be unaffected.
But I also feel it's been overused over the past 15 years and it's become too common place, to the point that fans are basically numb to what a crimson mask, for example, should bring about in terms of what it means to a match or moment. It's also become a crutch in this time to add to or even make a match or moment. I think, in the long run, the way they're handling it will work out. If WWE goes 2 years, say, without blood and then does an angle with a blade job, it'll mean a lot. Blood should be used on special occasions ONLY, when it'll add to the moment, not just because "there should be blood because it's xyz match". It should be "there should be blood because xyz happened and it'll lead to abc". Of course, this brings about the fact that, for example, the Cell now goes at least three times a year on one show. Without going into the fact that it's overkill for the gimmick itself, you can't blade in all the matches, it'd be overkill. ONE match should have blood. Hell, I'll take that a step further and say there should be no more than one blade job a month, and that's still a bit much in my opinion. As for TNA, they do it way too much and it's become meaningless on their show already. Something like this shouldn't be meaningless. In the end, WWE is going about this all wrong but it should even out with time. Last edited by Xero; 04-10-2010 at 03:16 PM. |
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04-10-2010, 03:14 PM
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TPWW's Hardcore Legend
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i do agree.
like this last year at HITC 
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04-10-2010, 04:03 PM
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04-10-2010, 05:10 PM
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A Property of Matter
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If you don't know if they use tag ropes or not how can it even be on your list?
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04-10-2010, 05:41 PM
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Because if they don't use them, then it would be cool if they did. I haven't noticed them in a while. Remember, this thread is mostly about little things we would change that might not be a big deal, would just be nice.
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04-10-2010, 05:44 PM
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the low Art Gloominati
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Maybe they should get a shoulder massage after getting body slammed as well. 
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04-10-2010, 05:48 PM
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A Property of Matter
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They use the tag rope. I hope the WWE has just become a little nicer for you. |
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04-10-2010, 06:20 PM
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Nice, thanks.
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04-10-2010, 06:48 PM
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I think it would look way too busy especially considering WWE's new HD set. There's a lot more detail on the stage and banners than there used to be. |
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04-10-2010, 11:01 PM
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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04-10-2010, 11:47 PM
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RIP SABU
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I'd personally like to see both shows (RAW and SD!) not try to go for shock value (when they do, that is) too hard, and that way, with some of the unnecessary over-the-top stuff that goes on now, the genuinely shocking things that happen will actually feel like epic "HOLY SHIT!" moments, imho.
One example is the episode of SD! in which Brock Lesnar and Big Show squared off in the main event. Nobody knew (aside maybe from reading spoilers, granted...) that going into the event that night, they would see Lesnar superplex Show off the top rope and implode the ring, because it was so seemingly out of nowhere. Used a clip that was pretty much the whole match purely to illustrate how the fans that night may have been expecting an at least somewhat decent match, but instead got a huge shocking moment that many will never forget - I know I sure as hell won't! |
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04-10-2010, 11:58 PM
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Da Gif/Pic Pimp
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I remember my friends giving me shit the night that episode was on, about how wrestling was fake, then bam the ring imploded and they marked like a bunch of kids.
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04-11-2010, 12:38 AM
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Shock moments done right can be awesome. Also, predictability is not inherently bad. Did any smark go into Mania thinking Michaels would end Taker's Streak? That match was one of the most memorable wrestling moments in recent history. We knew how it was going to go for the most part, and honestly, it was awesome. I seriously wonder how many casuals thought Michaels was going to break the streak, too. I mean, it's the Undertaker, who's still one of the most mainstream wrestlers. This was a pitch-perfect deal. Trying to swerve fans often leads to fan disappointment. Wrestling is on par with sitcoms in terms of formulaic approach. That's not bad. And sometimes, it needs to be turned on its ear. But shock needs to be used sparingly, and there are better ways to develop a compelling show. Better, not necessarily easier. Building up characters people care about is something WWE and TNA both seem short on. Entertaining angles can't be completely replaced by new match ideas or bigger spots. |
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04-11-2010, 12:40 AM
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~Stay thirsty my friends~
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One tiny change.
I would turn John Cena heel now, and get rid of the PG-13 crap for RAW.
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04-11-2010, 03:40 PM
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CUT THE F'N MUSIC
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def. change the spinner belt bring back the o.g. hogan era belt
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04-11-2010, 04:01 PM
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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I'd bring back the Cruiserweight title, to give the smaller guys something else to strive for. I'd try and make sure there was some overlap, rather than it being the pinnacle of smaller wrestlers, but there are some guys who should just never be near the heavyweight title but still deserve some level of prestige.
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04-11-2010, 04:23 PM
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Hugging Fat Chicks
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I know someone already corrected this....but WWE is Tv-PG...not PG-13
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04-11-2010, 04:26 PM
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Mr. Nice Guy
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Big Show was booked like such a monster in that match...
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04-11-2010, 08:16 PM
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dave ain't here?
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No more spinner belt. Only thing I like about it is it's made me like the world heavyweight title so much more.
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04-11-2010, 10:21 PM
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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04-12-2010, 06:53 AM
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I would change a few of the title belts in the WWE to improve their design. Also, as weird as this seems, I would buy John Cena wrestling attire. Proper wrestling attire. I'd also fire Jerry Lawler as commentator, or at least make him a heel. I do agree that a face/heel/neutral commentary team could work splendidly. Todd Grisham, Matt Striker & Josh Mathews come to mind as a team that could fill that role.
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04-12-2010, 06:57 AM
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