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Old 07-14-2010, 11:21 PM   #1
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They Should Have Been (Or Should Be) Champ
There's been a ton of guys who have been WWE/World (Heavyweight) Champion over the years, but the list of (former) Superstars who have never held the gold is almost just as impressive. Guys like Orndorff, Piper, Hennig, Bundy, Snuka, Steamboat, and DiBiase all come to mind immediately.

In this thread, let's answer these questions:

Who was/were your favorite WWE/World (Heavyweight) Champion or Champions, and why?

Which present or former WWE Superstar would you like to see/have seen as Champ, and why?

I'll think about my answers and post them soon.
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:22 PM   #2
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Didn't we do this thread last month? And the one before that?
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:23 PM   #3
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Didn't we do this thread last month? And the one before that?
I guess I missed it... besides, people might give different answers now.
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Jake The Snake but we all know why he didn't get any gold.....
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:25 PM   #5
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:27 PM   #6
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Vader in WWF didn't go very well. Vader and the rest of the world...now thats' another story!
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Jake The Snake but we all know why he didn't get any gold.....
One of the greatest heels in the history of the business. Look at his heel runs in '86 and when he turned again on Savage in '91. Just fucking classic. His promos and ring psychology were unmatched when he was at his best. Just unfortunate that his "demons" were his downfall.
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Old 07-14-2010, 11:44 PM   #10
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Vader in WWF didn't go very well. Vader and the rest of the world...now thats' another story!
He probably should have won the belt at SummerFest '96.

One of the best big men I have ever seen in the ring and had everything it took to make as Champ - mic skills, athleticism, the right look (at the time)... For a man his size to be able to do moonsaults and some of the other stuff he did was simply AMAZING.

The very first time I ever got interested in anything WCW did was when Vader was feuding with Sting, and for the life of me I can't understand why WWE totally fucked up Vader's career. They brought him in with such momentum, and by the time he left in 1998 he was jobbing cleanly to D-Lo Brown on Sunday Night Heat. They took a monster, who could get over as either a face or a heel and totally turned him into a joke.
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There's been a ton of guys who have been WWE/World (Heavyweight) Champion over the years, but the list of (former) Superstars who have never held the gold is almost just as impressive. Guys like Orndorff, Piper, Hennig, Bundy, Snuka, Steamboat, and DiBiase all come to mind immediately.

Here you are just naming top guys that never won the World Title, when realistically, it would have been impossible for all those guys to have won the title. All 7 of those guys' days on top were around the same time. There would be no opportunity for these guys to win especially when Hogan was the star then. Even if 1 of these guys should have been champ, who's title reign would you have taken away or shorten?

I'm just saying there's a difference between "Should have been champ" and "Best wrestlers to never win the title".
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:02 AM   #12
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I guess this is one of those topics that will never die and will come up every month or so.

People need to either go back and read old threads or learn how to use the search function.
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Here you are just naming top guys that never won the World Title, when realistically, it would have been impossible for all those guys to have won the title.
Good point. I just think it would have been cool to see more of them win it, that's all. I feel like a lot of guys never got their due, ya know? And there are probably guys there now who won't ever get the belt, either, though I think they could make great champs.
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Who was/were your favorite WWE/World (Heavyweight) Champion or Champions, and why?

Bret Hart in '97, as the "Canadian Hero/Anti American"...the promos and the feud with DX was just awesome.

Also, HBK's run with DX in late '97-early '98 was nice.



Which present or former WWE Superstar would you like to see/have seen as Champ, and why?

So many...British Bulldog in '95 or '96, Mr Perfect, Scott Hall (both as Razor Ramon in WWF and Scott Hall in WCW), Owen Hart in '94, Goldust (early Goldust...uknow, the freaky one)...etc.
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People need to either go back and read old threads or learn how to use the search function.
Or not post?
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:35 AM   #17
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just gonna name people that should have been heavy weight champ...Ted Dibiase, Bulldog, Perfect, Steamboat, big bossman (as a face he was very over in his first wwf stint IMO...ehh that's good for now. We should start a thread who would be champ if Hogan was never in WWF...b/c the title probably would have changed hands more often (maybe)
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We should start a thread who would be champ if Hogan was never in WWF...b/c the title probably would have changed hands more often (maybe)
Apparently us less experienced posters aren't allowed to start thread. If we do, we're committing a federal crime. You're right, though, if Hogan had never been in the company, the title might have changed hands more often. I think Ricky Steamboat, an all-time great and legendary wrestler who combined strength, technical skill, martial arts, and aerial wrestling, could have carried the company very well as champ (at least for a while).

Then again, I guess with more than a thousand posts I'm still considered a "newbie" here, so I'm not allowed to have an opinion.
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just gonna name people that should have been heavy weight champ...Ted Dibiase, Bulldog, Perfect, Steamboat, big bossman (as a face he was very over in his first wwf stint IMO...ehh that's good for now. We should start a thread who would be champ if Hogan was never in WWF...b/c the title probably would have changed hands more often (maybe)
If Hogan was not ever in the WWF then it is doubtful we would be having this discussion.
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If Hogan was not ever in the WWF then it is doubtful we would be having this discussion.
You may be right..... although, I do think Steamboat and a few other guys might have been able to carry the company if Hogan hadn't been there. McMahon would have just picked someone else.
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Kane.Oh wait a minute...he did have the belt for less then 24hrs,over 10 years ago.
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Apparently us less experienced posters aren't allowed to start thread. If we do, we're committing a federal crime. You're right, though, if Hogan had never been in the company, the title might have changed hands more often. I think Ricky Steamboat, an all-time great and legendary wrestler who combined strength, technical skill, martial arts, and aerial wrestling, could have carried the company very well as champ (at least for a while).

Then again, I guess with more than a thousand posts I'm still considered a "newbie" here, so I'm not allowed to have an opinion.
They never said you couldn't start new threads, they would just prefer you not to restart threads that are already made is all. Pretty sure nobody here would complain about original thread topics as opposed to seeing the same one 10 times a year is all.
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Jake The Snake but we all know why he didn't get any gold.....
Simple, cause he would've pawned it for coke.
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Kane.Oh wait a minute...he did have the belt for less then 24hrs,over 10 years ago.
Kane deserves much better than what he is getting. He is one of the most dedicated persons on the WWE roster and it's a total shame that he has got absolutely nothing in return for his services. On the other hand, I read several on-line articles which stated Kane doesn't care about "winning" the belt, and is happy putting guys over as opposed to having all the focus on himself.
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Kane deserves much better than what he is getting. He is one of the most dedicated persons on the WWE roster and it's a total shame that he has got absolutely nothing in return for his services. On the other hand, I read several on-line articles which stated Kane doesn't care about "winning" the belt, and is happy putting guys over as opposed to having all the focus on himself.
yea i don't think he really cares but as a long time fan of his I'd like to see them give him a little more respect.Even if just for a month or two.He's on smackdown for cripes sake.If he wins it and then a new star beats him for it...that's pushing them too.Everyone wins!
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yea i don't think he really cares but as a long time fan of his I'd like to see them give him a little more respect.Even if just for a month or two.He's on smackdown for cripes sake.If he wins it and then a new star beats him for it...that's pushing them too.Everyone wins!
Yeah, I mean even if he himself doesn't want a championship reign, why doesn't the company at least put him in a decent feud with someone? His feud with Shane McMahon was somewhat believable, because it wasn't two big guys trying to kill each other with chops to the head. The 100 pound size difference was forcing Shane to fight for his life; not to mention Kane's character was scary at the time, not really the piece of laid-back JTTS act it is now.
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Dibiase, Piper and Hennig. They all had the it factor. They all had charisma, good mic skills and could perform well in the ring. Despite all this they all got robbed by never being able to hold the WWF/E Heavyweight title.
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Roddy Piper: Maybe the greatest heel in WWE history, and probably the most important. Hogan had to have somebody great to be his rival and Piper was the perfect guy. Great mic skills, very crafty in the ring, and pound for pound one of the best brawlers of all time. Was a great good guy, as evidenced by his runs in Mid Atlantic, WWE, and even WCW. I don't know why he was never allowed to be Champ in the WWE, but I guess because Hogan was hogging the spotlight back then.
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Arriba! One of wrestling's top "good guys" for over two decades and the first ever Mexican-American IC Champ. He and Greg Valentine had one of the best feuds of all time - an angle that sold out venues just as much as the one's Hogan's attracted.

I wonder what would have happened if Vince had decided to go international by way of Mexico, instead of Canada. The decision didn't sit well with Tito and eventually led to his retirement.

"I was disappointed..you know..when they decided to give Bret the title. Both Pat Patterson and Vince McMahon came and told me that they spent a lot of times in the meetings deciding between me and Bret Hart. You know and i wasn't very happy of course. I hated the gimmick the Matador... and why i eventually retired from the WWF shortly after that." ~Tito Santana
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:28 PM   #34
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I'm gonna go with the Bulldog... but then I am from Ing-er-lund. I'm a newbie too - does my opinion count?
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:38 PM   #35
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yes your opinion counts. Newbs have a rough time being heard around here but as long as you don't come off as an obnoxious little punk you will be fine.

Bulldog is a good topic. He was a good candidate to win the WWF title at the height of his popularity and kind of surprised it never happened for him.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:44 PM   #36
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Sorry, your opinion doesn't count until 1000 posts. We'll just file this away for future reference.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:45 PM   #37
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:52 PM   #38
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I would say Bulldog, Mr Perfect and Ted Dibiase come to mind for me
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:04 PM   #39
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