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Old 04-20-2004, 11:47 AM   #1
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Bret Hart at Raw?
Thanks to Steven T for sending in the following: (wrestlingdotcom.com)

I just got back from WWE’s RAW in Calgary a few minutes ago! The event was excellent with several great matches and also new tag-team champions!

I am not sure if you guys have heard this yet or not, but as I was leaving RAW I saw a black Toyota Land Cruiser pulling out of the arena. The license plate on the back said “HITMAN”.

This makes me think that Bret Hart was really backstage at RAW and is working with WWE once again. I followed the Toyota for quite some time, until it turned off onto a back road that I hardly ever travel. I am almost certain (since I have lived in Calgary for ten years now) that whoever was in the vehicle was trying to not be seen. The windows were tinted completely black and the road it went down hardly ever gets any traffic.

Anyways this was a great event and I really hope Hart really plans on working with WWE, as I would enjoy his return!
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Old 04-20-2004, 12:04 PM   #2
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That might explain why the crowd was chanting "We want Bret". Like when they thought Austin was still backstage despite everyone saying he had walked out.
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Old 04-20-2004, 12:58 PM   #3
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:01 PM   #4
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:15 PM   #5
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:24 PM   #6
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How could he be trying to hide who he is if his license plate says "hitman".
Even though I mark out at the idea of this being true, I doubt it.
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Old 04-20-2004, 01:42 PM   #7
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Tazz once said on Confidential (Or in SmackDown! Mag, not sure) that his licence plate # is "Off the Hook" or somthing or other... He didnt give a state, though... Meh...

Anyway, Id believe that Bret WAS there, but it was prolly a die hard Bret fan...
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Bret Hart doesn't drive a Toyota.

If you think someone with the license plate "HITMAN" means Bret Hart is back working for the McMahon's then you are absolutely freaking stupid.
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Bret Hart doesn't drive a Toyota.

If you think someone with the license plate "HITMAN" means Bret Hart is back working for the McMahon's then you are absolutely freaking stupid.


It's funny because it's true.

Also, is it possible that the chants were spurred on by mention of STU HART and THE DUNGEON?

Or am I applying too much common sense here?
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It's funny because it's true.

Also, is it possible that the chants were spurred on by mention of STU HART and THE DUNGEON?

Or am I applying too much common sense here?
Your making to much common sense
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It's funny because it's true.

Also, is it possible that the chants were spurred on by mention of STU HART and THE DUNGEON?

Or am I applying too much common sense here?
Tell you what KK, go away from your PC for 20 minutes and try and shove your head up your own arse. This is the way you'll make any sense in this thread. It's hard as hell though. I've been trying it for ages.
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Tell you what KK, go away from your PC for 20 minutes and try and shove your head up your own arse. This is the way you'll make any sense in this thread. It's hard as hell though. I've been trying it for ages.
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OH MY GAWD! HITMAN IS BACK! FOX NEWS RULES! THE WORLD IS FLAT!
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OH MY GAWD! HITMAN IS BACK! FOX NEWS RULES! THE WORLD IS FLAT!
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Old 04-20-2004, 03:13 PM   #15
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Well no matter if its true or false I think most of the fans would agree it would be kick ass to see Hitman again.
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Hmmmm maybe Stu isn't really dead, because they were chanting his name, so he MUST have been backstage too!
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Hmmmm maybe Stu isn't really dead, because they were chanting his name, so he MUST have been backstage too!
Did Owen do a run in?
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Did Owen do a run in?
I guess not cause the fans didn't chant his name and we ll know the fans hold the key to what is really going on.
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Old 04-20-2004, 04:47 PM   #19
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So we're saying it's completely impossible that Bret Hart was backstage and that somebody saw him driving home? Maybe that's true, but I don't know. It doesn't seem that impossible.
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^ Except that I find it hard to believe that Bret Hart was at a WWE event. In Calgary. And he wasn't trotted out like a show pony.
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^ Except that I find it hard to believe that Bret Hart was at a WWE event. In Calgary. And he wasn't trotted out like a show pony.
I see what you mean, but still... Maybe McMahon (or somebody) invited him backstage, he went, and they talked. I still don't see why that's so impossible. Okay, so if he was there he wasn't on-screen. Does that mean he wasn't there? Maybe that's down the road...

I don't know. I'm just saying it's possible. We've heard of other people being backstage, who weren't on TV, so I'm just saying maybe.
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So we're saying it's completely impossible that Bret Hart was backstage and that somebody saw him driving home? Maybe that's true, but I don't know. It doesn't seem that impossible.
Well, except for the word "impossible."

And "completely."

Your grasp of the English language is disheartening.

What we're saying is that the logic behind this rumor is totally stupid, flawed, and poorly thought out. That's not to say it's impossible to see Bret backstage, or for Bret to do something with the WWE. Anything's POSSIBLE to some remote extent or another. Can you understand the difference?
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What we're saying is that the logic behind this rumor is totally stupid, flawed, and poorly thought out.
why do you feel that way?
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I see what you mean, but still... Maybe McMahon (or somebody) invited him backstage, he went, and they talked. I still don't see why that's so impossible. Okay, so if he was there he wasn't on-screen. Does that mean he wasn't there? Maybe that's down the road...

I don't know. I'm just saying it's possible. We've heard of other people being backstage, who weren't on TV, so I'm just saying maybe.
Dave Meltzer is reporting that Bret Hart was not at the show and they talk on a regular basis.

I'm thinking it's impossible he can be in two places at once but feel free to prove me wrong.
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You made a thread about getting over Montreal and then you harp on about Bret Hart here?

Dude... GET OVER IT!!!
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Dave Meltzer is reporting that Bret Hart was not at the show and they talk on a regular basis.

I'm thinking it's impossible he can be in two places at once but feel free to prove me wrong.
I'm not trying to prove you wrong, or anyone else. Can somebody tell me why you people are so defensive? And fine, if Meltzer said Bret was not at the show, then he probably wasn't. But you people should all take a breath.
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why do you feel that way?
To go from "There was a toyota with a vanity plate" to "Bret Hart is back with the WWE!" Is a pretty big stretch...

That's not a leap of logic, that's a moonsault of logic from the top of the Titantron onto the Raw announce table.
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You made a thread about getting over Montreal and then you harp on about Bret Hart here?

Dude... GET OVER IT!!!
And yeah, I have to mirror this sentiment.

Both threads are stupid. Both threads combined make for some full coverage stupidity.
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You made a thread about getting over Montreal and then you harp on about Bret Hart here?

Dude... GET OVER IT!!!
My thoughts exactly.
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He may (probably a small chance) that he was there just to see Chris Benoit and congratulate him personally but if he was there that would be the only reason
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These are the kind of piece of shit rumors that have earned Internet Wrestling sites such bad names.

Some guy named Steven T sends in a report that he saw a Toyota w/a HITMAN license plate and they turn it into "Bret Hart was backstage!!!!" Did anybody at this website verify the source or double check the story? No. Did the person receiving the story know for a fact how credible Ol' Steve was? No, probably not.

A common rule of journalism is to have two independent sources before reporting on a story. Not some schmuck in a parking lot named Steve. Good thing the Toyota didn't have one of those Jesus Fish on it or else this would've turned into a report on the Second Coming.
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Besides, we all know Bret's going to Smackdown for an angle where he talks Kurt through rehab...
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:13 PM   #34
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Good thing the Toyota didn't have one of those Jesus Fish on it or else this would've turned into a report on the Second Coming.
-BAH GAWD IT'S THE MESSIAH! THE SON OF MAN HAS COME AGAIN TO JUDGE THE LIVING AND THE DEAD! BARBECUESAUCESTUNNERUNAMERICAN!

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Old 04-20-2004, 11:17 PM   #36
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Good thing the Toyota didn't have one of those Jesus Fish on it or else this would've turned into a report on the Second Coming.
I didn't catch this til Loopy did that.

I'd rep ya if I could.

So is this Jesus the Hitman Christ? Performs a sharpshooter on a lake?
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Old 04-20-2004, 11:17 PM   #37
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Sad thing is, you know they'd make Christ job to Ausitn, just so King doesn't pout.
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From the TPWW newsboard:

Bret Hart and Vince McMahon did indeed meet last night after Raw in Calgary. It is unknown at this time what they talked about; however, Hart did not attend Raw and was not backstage.

We will post more details as they become available.

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No source listed. Mainly, just posting this to ask someone like Rob whether or not he knows anyone who can confirm that, or if it's just another BS rumor. It was stated rather matter-of-factly.
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Meltzer reported that and I know he talks to Bret Hart on a regular basis so I believe it.
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Awesome. Not that it means Bret is coming back. But it's one more degree below zero in hell, at least. Thanks.
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