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Old 09-04-2010, 12:15 PM   #1
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:18 PM   #2
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Good wrestlers, run by morons.
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:19 PM   #3
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Every time they take 2 steps forward, they do something that makes them take 1 step backwards.
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:19 PM   #4
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:19 PM   #5
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They need to get their shit together and quickly.
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:34 PM   #6
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the gimmicks are garbage. Even with Kennedy. It just looks even worse on TNA television. Second rate mine friends

The Pope? What the fuck is that

And Abyss
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Old 09-04-2010, 12:42 PM   #7
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the gimmicks are garbage. Even with Kennedy. It just looks even worse on TNA television. Second rate mine friends

The Pope? What the fuck is that

And Abyss
The Pope is great.

Kennedy has gone stale.

It's pretty much a fact that Abyss is a shitty rip off of Kane and Mankind.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:26 PM   #8
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:30 PM   #9
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I want TNA to do well, because it will be great for the industry. But time and time again they keep holding them selves back.

They are their own worst enemy.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:32 PM   #10
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Amazing talent, can know when to do something right (IE: MCMG vs Beer Money) and they're good with fan service. But, for the most part, the people in charge fuck everything up.

They've hit a brick wall in terms of ratings, and by now they need to realize that old ideas need to be put on the back burner for fresh ideas, like MCMG vs Beer Money.

Long term planning should be their goal, not shit like hotshotting great matches on TV or moving to Mondays. God Dixie is a fucking retard for listening to that suggestion.

Also, they need to stop trying to compete with WWE. This has been their absolute biggest downfall since about 2005. They need to establish themselves, not base it off of someone else's work. And no, I'm not talking about the old talent/"WWE rejects", because they CAN be beneficial to the company, but only if they know how to do it and integrate them into the roster instead of going apeshit about their past and automatically putting them on a pedestal.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:35 PM   #11
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Supposedly the house shows they run are awesome, should televise those instead.
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Old 09-04-2010, 01:46 PM   #12
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:03 PM   #13
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Supposedly the house shows they run are awesome, should televise those instead.
yeah there houseshows are so much better then wwe's houseshows, it may be a good idea for them to make a dvd of some of there houseshows.
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:23 PM   #14
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I used to love TNA back when Christian Cage was there.

Watched it consistently from the time Christian turned heel to around just before he left and just before all the Main Event Mafia stuff.

At times I definitely thought it was better than WWE. It still had its fair share of trash, but there were solid feuds and stories going all the way from the main event to the lower card.
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Old 09-04-2010, 03:50 PM   #15
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the gimmicks are garbage. Even with Kennedy. It just looks even worse on TNA television. Second rate mine friends

The Pope? What the fuck is that
And Abyss
The Pope is better than anything wwe has now.
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:12 PM   #16
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he's a pimp or something, right?

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Old 09-04-2010, 04:21 PM   #17
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It's late WCW to the letter. Utter wank with a couple of bright points.

I honestly believe the bright spots appear to be better just because of the sheer amount of shit surrounding it.
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:34 PM   #18
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Good wrestlers, run by morons.
This.

They have a lot of great in ring talent. Jeff Hardy, RVD, Kurt Angle, The Pope, Abyss, AJ Styles, MCMG, Beer Money, Stevie Richards, and more.

TNA's problem is behind the scenes. Their booking and writing is crap. We didn't need ANOTHER "one off" ECW show. We don't need Hogan and Flair. And dare I say it, the wrestling world no longer needs Sting. These were all guys who were signed to take TNA to "the next level" but never did.
You know what TNA needs? They need to have a meeting with Spike TV, and ask if they can rip off one more thing from WWE. Do something like the Pillman/Austin bit where Pillman pulled a gun on Austin. And do it with TNA guys. Don't do it with people who were in WWE, and don't sign on big names to do it. If they want to hit that next level then they need to do what WWE isn't doing. Shock me, wow me, amaze me. Bring back personas like J.J. Dillion who was a manager, instead of having WWE diva's stand by their kayfabe lover's side. Drop the F bomb on a PPV during a "shoot". Remind me that there are still people who are not in CZW that has balls.
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:35 PM   #19
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I like TNA, but it's like WWE, for every good thing there's a bad.
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:36 PM   #20
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It has a lot of potential but the people who run it need to get people who know how to promote and run a business better.
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:45 PM   #21
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this potential,potential,potential but they keep goin around in circles
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:48 PM   #22
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A fair amount of very talented wrestlers.

Maybe I'm a slave to production values, but when I turn it on it looks like a local show in a gymnasium with a bunch of people who I care very little for. And Ho Cogan just hanging around looking lost, BROTHER. So in essence, like the thread-starter said: shit
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Old 09-04-2010, 05:27 PM   #23
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This.

They have a lot of great in ring talent. Jeff Hardy, RVD, Kurt Angle, The Pope, Abyss, AJ Styles, MCMG, Beer Money, Stevie Richards, and more.

TNA's problem is behind the scenes. Their booking and writing is crap. We didn't need ANOTHER "one off" ECW show. We don't need Hogan and Flair. And dare I say it, the wrestling world no longer needs Sting. These were all guys who were signed to take TNA to "the next level" but never did.
And now we battle... LOL.

1) Abyss and Stevie Richards shouldn't be mentioned with those other names.

2) I do agree that the entire ECW reunion show and having to see those guys hang on to the last 2 seconds of their 15 minutes in the sun is frustrating. I'm just going to say it, Tommy Dreamer is overrated by leaps and bounds and has only been built up by revisionist history. There's a reason why he was still at ECW while guys were getting their money from WCW and the WWF and it wasn't because he loved the company so much.

3) I disagree about Flair, Hogan, Sting, Nash, etc... no longer being necessary. All those guys can play a huge part in getting over the younger guys if Russo wasn't a fucking idiot and Dixie wasn't a fucking mark more concerned with being a "cool" boss than making the smart decisions.

Flair is one of the greatest on the mic while a lot of the TNA talent struggles with that. Putting him with a stable was great and they should have done it a lot sooner, although they're fucking retarded for not having Lethal go cocky heel after beating the "man" and joining with Fortune.

The guys like Sting, Nash, and Jarrett can help put the younger guys over and I honestly kind of like the thing they have going with Jarrett.

Hogan is the one who should fucking go. I don't need to see him three times per show. He has more value as an attraction who may show up once or twice a month for "big" announcements than as a regular character.
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Old 09-04-2010, 05:32 PM   #24
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They try too hard.

Dixie needs more "ruthless aggression".
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And another thing, whoever thought it would be clever to spell Fortune, Fourtune and emulate the Four Horsemen hand sign by replacing it with the universal symbol for "two in the pink and one in the stink" for a stable that has 7 fucking people should be relieved of their job immediately.
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Old 09-04-2010, 05:41 PM   #26
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Old 09-04-2010, 06:17 PM   #27
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They hired everyone from WCW late 2000, who are still trying to run it like everything was 10 years ago. Everyone is 10 years older, their "star" names don't mean shit, old guys clinging to a paycheck.
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And another thing, whoever thought it would be clever to spell Fortune, Fourtune and emulate the Four Horsemen hand sign by replacing it with the universal symbol for "two in the pink and one in the stink" for a stable that has 7 fucking people should be relieved of their job immediately.
LOL What? Fourtune's doing the Shocker!?
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Full of potential since even before being filled with WWE rejects or friends of Hogan, their roster was full of talented wrestlers who could have been pushed as the "future" stars. TNA also focused on tag wrestling, women wrestling, and X Division (lower card) better than the WWE most of the time.

TNA also ends up doing some stupid mistake or booking that kills any momentum they gained. Their problem is being too focused on short term fixes and horrible booking in terms of match endings and storyline flow.
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yeah there houseshows are so much better then wwe's houseshows, it may be a good idea for them to make a dvd of some of there houseshows.
From what I've heard they make the most profit from the house shows. With the amount of talent on the roster they could split up and do two tours. One up the east coast and one toward the midwest or west coast and double the money. Start filming Impact from the house shows. That's the only way they seem more legit. Live shows from different arenas.
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...Paul Heyman's take on TNA and the wrestling business as a whole is very interesting:
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Apart from the constant "TNA fans are the best" and the constant "let's thank Dixie Carter for creating the world and holding back the crab people" shit, I still prefer to watch TNA over WWE, whose PG rating has just ruined it for me. Hope they don't stop things like hell in a cell...
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late 90s early 2000 wwe....with recycled story lines... there a few great wrestlers that need to jump ship.
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Five more minutes of no-selling that would make Cena go "damn man, sell a little".
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Like i said before in another thread, TNA is usually more entertaining than Smackdown, but I think WWE just gave up on Smackdown all together.
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I have seen a lot of hating on TNA on other sites (PWTorch etc) that where nothing TNA does is right or they don't do anything good, ever. So I thought I would go over a few good/great thing's TNA has done over the last few months. You can agree or disagree with these or add something you have seen. I'm going to try to be objective and not just pick my favorites and just speak on what is good for the overall TNA product. These are in no order and this is just my view of things so here it goes.

* One of the better things over the past year I have seen is the rise of Madison Rayne. TNA slowly moved the Beautiful People apart and moved Madison Rayne "on her own". TNA did a great job of building her up and allowing her to speak and evolve her character and giving her heat as the "bitchy" heel. Alot of the credit should go to Madison for seizing the opportunity. TNA has not been able, for the most part , to build up their own KO stars but now have a new top 5 female in Madison to go along with Angelina Love who was built much the same way although interrupted by her visa issues. Very nice job by TNA in "building new stars".

* The Rise of The Tag Team. TNA has re-invigorated the tag team division in wrestling with great matches from the MCMG & Beer Money and the implementation of new tag teams. Beer Money and MCMG are the real {Worlds Greatest Tag Teams}. Inc Ink have became a solid team and have a good base for another with London Brawling (Magnus and Wolfe) and a formidable (young) team with Generation ME. Team 3d are still around (i guess and assume they will resign) but they have taken a back seat in the division which is where they should be at this point. So kudos to TNA for taking something WWE completely misses on and making it their own. TNA really is where the best tag teams are and where the best tag teams should go to.

* Fourtune- Say what you will about Fourtune but to put your future (and current) stars in a group and let them get the rub from Ric Flair. AJ Styles comes out looking awesome through all of this but he nor Beer Money are the real winners here. The real winners are Doug Williams, Matt Morgan, and Frankie Kazarian. Williams, Morgan, Kaz all are fringe main event or semi main event players who already have gotten that little up tic from the whole angle and it is only going to get more rub from the company they keep. They really do look more legitimate.

* The on-set of Xplosion and Reaction. Xplosion is a very good show and it does give TNA a chance to give some of there lower tier talent some exposure and it gives them some more exposure over seas in England, where they already have a pretty good fan base it seems. The look of the show is very unique and looks like a preparation for a possible move to the United States on a national level. Reaction is also a good show and it gives you some back story for the wrestlers motives and once again gives TNA more exposure on national tv and gives TNA the opportunity to further storylines in while uncompressing the Impact broadcast.

* " The WWE Rejects" This term get thrown around alot but TNA really has made a lot out of these rejects. In the Pope D'Angelo Dinero and Mr. Anderson TNA has taken guy's that WWE were unwilling to let move up and have allowed them to thrive. In Anderson TNA has a Top Heel or a Top Face, whichever way they decide to go who can carry the company in the ring and on the mic. In Pope ,TNA has a top of the roster talent who overcoming a shoulder injury, is making a rise to to the top. He has the in ring ability and the mic skills to carry TNA as well. Both are top players in TNA and were held back in WWE. Pretty good for WWE rejects HUH?

* Prepping the Mid Card- TNA has done a good job with building up the MidCard wrestlers and prepping them for the upper card. Do those upper card runs come to fruition? Who knows, but TNA has prepared their position. Guy's like Jay Lethal, Rob Terry, Brian Kendrick,Doug Williams etc. All of them have had runs in major programs this year and should TNA choose to run with one of these guys, they know what their strengths and their weaknesses are and how to best utilize them. Especially the runs from Jay Lethal and Rob Terry, were well done. Jay with Ric Flair and Rob fighting with OJ and AJ. Where they go from here I don't know but there is a base for them to build from should they need to move someone into a higher position due to injury or someone departing from the company.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
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5 minutes ago it gets declared there has to be a winner and now its a no contest.
Sums TNA up quite perfectly.
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Sums TNA up quite perfectly.
If you do not support TNA because of that then you ("YOU" as in generally speaking) should of never supported WCW.
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it was declared a no contest because the guys were too beat up to go on. it made sense on the show.
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