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ROCK SMASH!!!!!!
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You know what the WWE needs to bring back?
This:
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#2 |
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They already have the US and IC titles, the former of which rarely gets defended and really is an accessory.
Not to mention, outside of Evan Bourne, who would compete for the title? |
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Blargh...
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You mean another belt that would lose all credibility faster than a sinking titanic? Remeber who the last champion was.
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"Ask him!"
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If it was done properly and given the necessary amount of air time and credibility to make the division work, then I say yes, the WWE is desperately in need of a consistently competitive, fast paced, constantly exciting aspect to their shows. Of all the things WCW did wrong, they did the Cruiserweight Division completely correctly, pushing awesome talents like Mysterio, Guerrero, Malenko, Jericho, Juvi, Kidman and so many others, and giving them the time needed to go out and put on the best match on the entire card, night in and night out. TNA has the same thing going with their X-Division for a very long time - showcasing awesome talents like AJ Styles, Chris Daniels, Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley, Low Ki, Amazing Red, Kid Kash, and many more. Both titles gained instant credibility as a direct result. Ironically, Vince Russo took over the creative side of both companies, and both division suffered horribly.
If the WWE were to put together a cruiserweight division in the same vein as the WCW division and the early X-Division, hire a bunch of new smaller guys who can go in the ring (Jack Evans immediately comes to mind), and actually gave them the TV time needed to get the guys and the title over, then yes, they should do it. But in the current state of the WWE, I don't see that as a possibility, and if they're not going to do it right, then they shouldn't do it at all. |
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#5 |
TPWW's #3 Peep
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WWE should have their own version of the X Division. They got so many superstars that can really go in the ring but seem constantly lost in the shuffle.
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Feeling Oof-y
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They need a plastic replica of a title that was last held by Hornswoggle?
Couldn't you have voiced this opinion in the thread about the TV Title?? |
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Samurai Rocker
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Instead of the Cruiserweight Championship coming back, why not resurrect the Junior Heavyweight Championship, which they abandoned in October 1985 after the NJPW-WWF split, with the maximum weight limit be 235 lbs. It would bring a make a tremendous mid-card title. Think of the talent that would hold that title.
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#8 |
Feeling Oof-y
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Please tell us more about this title that you mention...
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If they fucked off the brand split, I'm all for it.
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ROCK SMASH!!!!!!
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Tyson Kidd Daniel Bryan Justin Gabriel Evan Bourne Primo Zack Ryder Yoshi Tatsu Caylen Croft Kaval Kofi Kingston And hornswoggle being the last champion is even more reason why it should come back |
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Da Gif/Pic Pimp
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If they're going to make a new title, they need to make it where it can be defended on Superstars, and even change back and fourth. It could easily be defended on PPV's but it would also give people another reason to tune in besides it being right before Impact.
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#12 |
Samurai Rocker
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The WWWF/WWF Junior Heavyweight Championship was created in 1967. Its first champion was "Jumping" Johnny De Fazio, who would hold the title four times between 1967 and 1972, until he vacated the title upon retiring.
In 1978, after six years of inactivity, the title was reactivated and its first champion upon reactivating the title was Carlos Jose Estrada. When Tatsumi Fujinami defeated Estrada for the title in January 1978, the title was brought over to New Japan Pro Wrestling, where Fujinami became the pioneer of junior heavyweight wrestling and gave the title recognition around the world by defending it in Japan, United States, and Europe. Fujinami would hold the title twice, until moving up to the heavyweight division in October 1981. Other champions included Ryuma Go, Tiger Mask, Black Tiger, Dynamite Kid, Hiro Saito, and the title's last champion The Cobra. In October 1985, New Japan and WWF split, as New Japan was developing their own junior heavyweight championship, the IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship. |
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Shit buzz
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Yeah I'd like a title with a max weight limit. That'd actually kick ass.
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Justin Gabriel has been booked to look creible in losing efforts to Cena and Orton, and I don't think winning the cruiserweight title is going to help him any. Kaval won NXT and has a title shot at his disposal. Why on Earth would he want to compete for a lowly title when he challenge for the company's top titles? Kolfi Kingsto has held and was recently chasing the IC title not even a month ago. Having him in the CW division would be another push down the card for him Those other guys you listed are so irrelevant that nobody would care enough to make the title mean anything. Fox got it right. The only way it's going to work is if they hire a bunch of new guys that they can immediately supplement into the division, and give these new guys, along with Evan Bourne and a few others more than enough time to showcase their skills and put on exciting, fast paced matches. This is not what's going to happen. WWE doesn't book their mid card titles worth a shit. They're not going to book the CW title any better than they did last time. |
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Shit buzz
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It'd give at least some structure to a very random-seeming company.
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Narc stole my star
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Cruiserweights = jobbers.
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As much as I'm all for seeing epic high-flying and technically sound matches between cruiserweights for something more than just wins, I disagree with bringing back a Lightweight championship, or Cruiserweight, or whatever.
With the way the product is promoted today, and for the past 7 or 8 years, the WWE and other promotions have begun showcasing the so called "little guys" as legitimate threats. Look at past lightweight champions (WWF & WCW) in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Chris Jericho Jeff Hardy Christian Rey Mysterio Eddie Guerrero. These are all superstars who became a World Champion in a major promotion. What that tells me is these guys don't need a cruiserweight division to keep them divided from the rest of the roster. Why would they need to challenge other lightweights when they can go toe-to-toe with the Heavyweight title holder? And like the other posters, the WWE is having a hard enough time dealing with their second-tier titles to even consider bringing back, or re-introducing another championship. Aside from their staple character (a giant-sized human ala Batista, Cena, Trips), the WWE is showcasing these "smaller" superstars as on-par. So why separate the two groups when we've come to realize a cruiserweight can break the Undertaker's face with his leg? |
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"Ask him!"
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I disagree with the idea that a guy like Daniel Bryan, who is the US Champion, or Kaval, who won NXT, or even Rey Mysterio, who is a former World Champion, competing for a hypothetical Cruiserweight Title has to be viewed or portrayed as a demotion. If built correctly, it could simply be considered a DIFFERENT division - not better or worse. Much the way that the ECW TV Title was portrayed as being on par with the ECW World Title, at least for a time.
Look at the real life situation of a guy like Randy Couture; a man who won both the Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight UFC Titles. If he were to go back down to the Light Heavyweight division and compete, I don't think it would be seen as a demotion or fighting for a lesser title - just a different title. |
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I could go for a cruiserweight title it they merged the Us and IC title's.
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#22 |
I've got that Nerd Rage.
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Enjoyable programming?
Is that a good answer to the question? |
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One Of A Kind
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No, they just need to make the titles they have meaningful, which they don't.
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Feeling Oof-y
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WWE needs to bring back those "Superstars vs jobbers" squashing matches on the "WWE Superstars" program. No joke.
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Samurai Rocker
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Speaking of the U.S. title, instead of using the NWA and WCW's lineage of the U.S. title, why didn't they used their own lineage of the U.S. title? The WWWF version of the U.S. title lasted from 1963, in which Bobo Brazil was the first and final champion, before abandoning the championship in 1976.
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He's Here
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Feeling Oof-y
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Maybe because outside of you, nobody will recognise the names of former WWWF US Champs? Where as the likes of Austin, Dusty, etc still mean something in this day and age.
Seriously, apply logic instead of trying to constantly prove your wrestling knowledge. |
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I've got that Nerd Rage.
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Samurai Rocker
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I don't look at Wikipedia. I looked at old wrestling magazines.
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I've got that Nerd Rage.
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Samurai Rocker
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Ghost town
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Why not resurrect the TV Championship instead? Make it where it can be defended every week on RAW and often on Superstars.
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Samurai Rocker
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I don't think WWE ever had a Television Championship. If they do have a Television Championship, I hope they do not use the NWA and WCW's lineage, like they did the U.S. title, despite the fact WWE had their own U.S. title in the 1960's and 1970's.
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Samurai Rocker
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Da Gif/Pic Pimp
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PWI of course!!
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Samurai Rocker
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