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Old 12-16-2010, 03:12 AM   #1
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TNA Money?
So, I'm curious to know how much money TNA actually is making (if any?) and how much they're spending. I can't imagine Panda Energy will continue to just pour money into TNA very long without seeing some substantial profit or growth.

Owning, operating and investing in numerous businesses myself (both large and small) through the years, I know I wouldn't be happy with the results or product they were putting out with my investment. They don't seem to have any consistent substantial growth in sales, audience, or ratings from my perspective.

Anyone have any ideas of how much they spend/earn or thoughts on the Panda Energy/TNA investment, money, etc., timeline?
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:28 AM   #2
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I imagine their profits went down/expences went up as soon as the signed Hogan.

And what good has that done TNA?

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Old 12-16-2010, 09:54 AM   #4
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TNA only lost money from 2002-2007. Panda Energy own the company and as it is the pet project of Dixie Carter (the owner of Panda's daughter) and most feds take a little while to get going, it has been allowed to lose money. Also TNA started on TV straight away without any slow build which is almost unheard of.

They are now making a profit thanks to increased money from SpikeTV for 2 hour shows rather than 1 hour, increased number of non-televised house shows and licensing the video game to Midway.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:56 AM   #5
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The following is the payroll for TNA wrestlers for the year 2008.All wrestlers are provided with airfare,accomadation and ground transport for house shows and ppv's held outside TNA studios in Orlando,Florida.In adittion to their salry all wrestlers get 20% of profits of their merchandise sold,1% of profits of the house shows and ppv's they paricipated in,and an annual bonus declared for wrestlers.Also their salary is cut off on a day to day basis for the period they are inactve in the tna roster due to injury or personal problems.The following depicts the dollars earned by tna wrestlers in a one year period for the year 2008.

Abyss-$350,000
AJ Styles-$350,000
Alex Shelley-$150,000
Andrew Thomas-$75,000
Angelina Love-$60,000
Awesome kong-$100,000
BG James-$250,00
Black Reign-$200,000
Booker T-$450,000
Brother Devon-$300,000
Brother Ray-$300,000
Chris Sabin-$150,000
Christian Cage-$450,000
Christy Hemme-$75,000
Consequences(Austin Creed)-$75,000
Curry Man(Christopher Daniels)-$300,000
David Penzer-$75,000
Don West-$150,000
Earl Hebner-$150,000
Eric Young-$200,000
Frank Trigg-$200,000
Gail Kim-$100,000
Hector Guerrero-$100,000
Hernandez-$200,000
Homicide-$200,000
Jacqueline-$75,000
James Storm-$200,000
Jay Lethal-$150,000
Jeff Jarrett-$750,000(vice-president of TNA)
Jeremy Borash-$200,000
Jim Cornette-$250,000
Jimmy Rave-$75,000
Johnny Devine-$100,000
Kaz-$200,000
Karen angle-$100,000
Kevin Nash-$450,000
Kip James-$250,000
Kurt Angle-$650,000
Lance Hoyt-$150,000
Matt Morgan-$200,000
Mike Tenay-$200,000
ODB-$75,000
Petey Williams-$150,000
Raisha Saeed-$50,000
Rhaka Khan-$50,000
Rhino-$350,000
Robert Roode-$250,000
Roxxi Laveaux-$60,000
Rudy Charles-$100,000
Sainas-$50,000
Samoa Joe-$350,000
Scott Steiner-$350,000
Shark Boy-$100,000
Sharmell-$75,000
So Cal Val-$60,000
Sonjay Dutt-$100,000
Sting-$500,000(Has to make 12 Impact,8 PPV and 8 House show appearances)
Tomko-$300,000
Traci Brooks-$100,000
Velvet Sky-$50,000
Willie Urbina-$75,000

With these kinds of numbers I just dont see how TNA is makeing a profit
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:57 AM   #6
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Unlike WWE, TNA Wrestling is a privately held company so that information is not made available to the public. However, TNA Wrestling (which does business as TNA Entertainment, LLC) is owned by Panda Energy International and Jeff Jarrett. Panda Energy International is the majority owner with Jarrett still retaining something like 15%. I have heard that the company should be turning a profit by now, however, I am unable to confirm that 100% or go into details about it.
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Alot of the higher paid talent on that list arent there anymore, and i know Flair gets paid by Panda Energy not TNA so im not sure if that comes from the TNA budget. Although the money they saved is probably what pays Hogan and Bischoff. $100K for Karen Angle??
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Alot of the higher paid talent on that list arent there anymore, and i know Flair gets paid by Panda Energy not TNA so im not sure if that comes from the TNA budget. Although the money they saved is probably what pays Hogan and Bischoff. $100K for Karen Angle??
Flair is pulling at least $500,000 with his limited scheduled of appearances.
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Awesome kong-$100,000
BG James-$250,00
Black Reign-$200,000
Booker T-$450,000
Christian Cage-$450,000
Consequences(Austin Creed)-$75,000
Curry Man(Christopher Daniels)-$300,000
David Penzer-$75,000
Frank Trigg-$200,000
Gail Kim-$100,000
Homicide-$200,000
Jacqueline-$75,000
Jim Cornette-$250,000
Jimmy Rave-$75,000
Johnny Devine-$100,000
Karen angle-$100,000
Kip James-$250,000
Lance Hoyt-$150,000
ODB-$75,000
Petey Williams-$150,000
Raisha Saeed-$50,000
Rhaka Khan-$50,000
Roxxi Laveaux-$60,000
Sainas-$50,000
Scott Steiner-$350,000
Sharmell-$75,000
Sonjay Dutt-$100,000
Tomko-$300,000
Traci Brooks-$100,000
I dont think any of them still work at TNA, at least not full time so theres a couple million saved easy.
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I dont think any of them still work at TNA, at least not full time so theres a couple million saved easy.
That list is also bullshit.
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i am suprised no one on that list was at a mill, wonder what hardy and rvd are making. that is nothing compaired to the wwe payrole.
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It's a fact that TNA made a revenue of $15 million in 2007 . In 2008 TNA tripled it's revenue thus making their 2008 revenue $45 million dollar's. In recent interviews Dixie Carter said that their was a 75% increase of revenue from 2008 to 2009. I did the math and that make's their 2009 revenue roughly $80 million dollars ($78.75 million)

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not bad, i thought it would be much lower
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I dont think any of them still work at TNA, at least not full time so theres a couple million saved easy.
This amount saved is quickly eaten up by Hogan, Bischoff, Anderson, Jeff hardy
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This amount saved is quickly eaten up by Hogan, Bischoff, Anderson, Jeff hardy
Sure Hogans working on the cheap for the good of TNA
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i don't see any way TNA could realistically be turning a profit.

their only revenue is from PPVs, which no one watches, merchandise, which no one buys, and tickets when they tour, which is rarely and i'm sure no one goes to that when they do.

and then on the other hand, they have the salaries of dozens of employees to pay, most of them useless and overpaid, all sorts of expenses which i don't feel like listing out.


it's pretty much a given that when they brought on hogan, bischoff and the rest of the nWo washouts they were expecting a huge increase in viewership etc. which never happened (remember when they tried to go head to head on monday nights? LOL) and now they're paying out the ass for it.
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They cant be making a profit. Not after this year. No way.
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The following is the payroll for TNA wrestlers for the year 2008.All wrestlers are provided with airfare,accomadation and ground transport for house shows and ppv's held outside TNA studios in Orlando,Florida.In adittion to their salry all wrestlers get 20% of profits of their merchandise sold,1% of profits of the house shows and ppv's they paricipated in,and an annual bonus declared for wrestlers.Also their salary is cut off on a day to day basis for the period they are inactve in the tna roster due to injury or personal problems.The following depicts the dollars earned by tna wrestlers in a one year period for the year 2008.

Abyss-$350,000
AJ Styles-$350,000
Alex Shelley-$150,000
Andrew Thomas-$75,000
Angelina Love-$60,000
Awesome kong-$100,000
BG James-$250,00
Black Reign-$200,000
Booker T-$450,000
Brother Devon-$300,000
Brother Ray-$300,000
Chris Sabin-$150,000
Christian Cage-$450,000
Christy Hemme-$75,000
Consequences(Austin Creed)-$75,000
Curry Man(Christopher Daniels)-$300,000
David Penzer-$75,000
Don West-$150,000
Earl Hebner-$150,000
Eric Young-$200,000
Frank Trigg-$200,000
Gail Kim-$100,000
Hector Guerrero-$100,000
Hernandez-$200,000
Homicide-$200,000
Jacqueline-$75,000
James Storm-$200,000
Jay Lethal-$150,000
Jeff Jarrett-$750,000(vice-president of TNA)
Jeremy Borash-$200,000
Jim Cornette-$250,000
Jimmy Rave-$75,000
Johnny Devine-$100,000
Kaz-$200,000
Karen angle-$100,000
Kevin Nash-$450,000
Kip James-$250,000
Kurt Angle-$650,000
Lance Hoyt-$150,000
Matt Morgan-$200,000
Mike Tenay-$200,000
ODB-$75,000
Petey Williams-$150,000
Raisha Saeed-$50,000
Rhaka Khan-$50,000
Rhino-$350,000
Robert Roode-$250,000
Roxxi Laveaux-$60,000
Rudy Charles-$100,000
Sainas-$50,000
Samoa Joe-$350,000
Scott Steiner-$350,000
Shark Boy-$100,000
Sharmell-$75,000
So Cal Val-$60,000
Sonjay Dutt-$100,000
Sting-$500,000(Has to make 12 Impact,8 PPV and 8 House show appearances)
Tomko-$300,000
Traci Brooks-$100,000
Velvet Sky-$50,000
Willie Urbina-$75,000

With these kinds of numbers I just dont see how TNA is makeing a profit
i dunno but i find this hard to belive for most of the members here. for ex. awesome kong 100k and wanted a raise? IMO thats enough for a female wrestle to earn in a company like TNA.

Yea they spending $$ left n right, i dont see them being too profitable yet.

and as for Hogan, im sure he gets paid more to be on TV then he does to be some type of a Executive in the locker room.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:40 PM   #29
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Where in the hell did you get these numbers from btw? They are a private ran company, and I guarantee these numbers are not made public. I call bullshit!
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[QUOTE=TazFTW86;3359233]i dunno but i find this hard to belive for most of the members here. for ex. awesome kong 100k and wanted a raise? IMO thats enough for a female wrestle to earn in a company like TNA.
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At the time though the Knockout division was the highest rated part of Impact pretty much every week, and she was the figurehead of the division or at least a main part of it. If the figures are accurate, IF, then why wouldnt she be be entitled to a bump in wages when guys like Tomko are on $300k.
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