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Old 12-24-2010, 09:54 PM   #1
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Would it be a dick move for Undertaker to keep his streak in tact when he retires?
There's a possibility that the streak will be kept in tact when he retires. I know alot of his fans think so. If so, I think it would be a dick move on Takers' behalf.

Or does he deserve to have the perfect storybook finish to end his career?





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Like I said Wade Barrett either needs to break it or let UT retire undefeated
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Like I said Wade Barrett either needs to break it or let UT retire undefeated
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He's the only one that would a) benefit from it strongly and b) Could look credible doing it.
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Like I said Wade Barrett either needs to break it or let UT retire undefeated
If anyone in the industry should do it right now, it's Wade. If two people should, it should be Wade, or The Miz. It needs to be someone who'll make the most of getting that rub, and someone who'll stay with the company. Lord knows WWE wouldn't want someone to go to TNA with the stigma that he ended The Streak.
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This triple threat thing I keep hearing (where Taker doesn't get pinned, but still loses the match) is the worst idea ever. Total cop-out. Go all out of get out. All or nothing
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This triple threat thing I keep hearing (where Taker doesn't get pinned, but still loses the match) is the worst idea ever. Total cop-out. Go all out of get out. All or nothing
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No, especially considering the fact that he's offered the streak to Orton and Kane before and they both declined it out of respect.
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No, especially considering the fact that he's offered the streak to Orton and Kane before and they both declined it out of respect.
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No, especially considering the fact that he's offered the streak to Orton and Kane before and they both declined it out of respect.
Yeah right.

If he didn't let HBK beat him, and he's a legend, he wouldn't let Orton or Kane do so.
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Yeah right.

If he didn't let HBK beat him, and he's a legend, he wouldn't let Orton or Kane do so.
Err, you do know HBK wanted to retire...right?
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Err, you do know HBK wanted to retire...right?
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If he didn't let HBK beat him, and he's a legend, he wouldn't let Orton or Kane do so.
The circumstances in each situation are obviously different...I would hope you would recognize that...
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really? Then Orton and Kane are idiots

plus I think the whole streak thing in general is overrated. I don't see a big deal in losing a streak in a fake sport
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really? Then Orton and Kane are idiots

plus I think the whole streak thing in general is overrated. I don't see a big deal in losing a streak in a fake sport
They didnt need the streak and at the time, they didnt feel right taking it. Kane, because he said he wanted to give it to a young guy if it was taken, and Orton said no out of respect and the fact it was unnecessary to take it.

As far as streak in a scripted atmosphere, to be in the position to go over every time, even when you option not to, to help the other guy, is amazing. That's like saying "I dont see the big deal in winning a belt in a fake sport." The fact that the promotion has that much faith in you to hold that responsibility says a lot.
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really? Then Orton and Kane are idiots

plus I think the whole streak thing in general is overrated. I don't see a big deal in losing a streak in a fake sport
according to the shithead that is matt striker, it's not just a streak in a fake sport, it's the greatest streak in sports history.
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really? Then Orton and Kane are idiots

plus I think the whole streak thing in general is overrated. I don't see a big deal in losing a streak in a fake sport
It's pretty popular though. People on the internet are just obsessed with it. I'm pretty sure this type of thread comes up once or twice every week.

Personally, I think it should be ended and by someone who will invest as much of their time and strength into it as Taker. However, I think that the gimmick shouldn't be re-did until after Vince McMahon is dead.
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I think he should leave undefeated.
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Taker deserves to retire with the streak. The people love it, and it's a cool stat even in a scripted show.

WWE doesn't consistently book their new talent well enough to give someone an opportunity to live up to the "Streak-Breaker". Ever since Lesnar, the company seems to be cautious as to who should be put over their mega superstars.

I just think it's way too much of an unnecessary risk to have someone be given Taker's legacy. There are plenty of other ways to build and create stars by good writing and good feuds.

The writing should be good enough for a feud with Taker at Mania, that the guy is gonna be made to look like a million bucks even when he loses anyway.
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He's earned the right to retire undefeated at Wrestlemania.

If you get to beat Taker and it isn't at Wrestlemania, its still a pretty big win. Not as big as Mania, obviously, but if you have a win against Taker...its still good for your resume. If you are Barrett, or Sheamus, lose at Mania and beat him at whatever the April PPV is.
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Well it can't be John Cena thank goodness he lost that Triple threat match with Randy Orton and Triple H.
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I love Miz. I definitely don't think it should go to him. He doesn't need it at all for one and I don't buy it without A-Ri, Vince, Shane, Triple H and possibly HBK to make it happen.

Sheamus, Ezekiel Jackson, etc. depending on their level of commitment to the WWE could get it and then live on as company bad-ass.
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He wouldn't be a "dick" if he retired and still held the streak. Matter of fact he deserves to keep his streak. He's been with the WWE for nearly 20 years and has been loyal all of them. He never complains about titles or having to help the younger guys get over. He does his job and is happy just to be there. And like others have said, he offered up the streak but nobody would take it. At this point there is no need to end the streak and I believe it should stay that way. Undertaker is the real Mr. Wrestlemania and will always be so.
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He obviously doesn't care if he keeps it or not. If he wants to give it away, I say let him.
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It's similar to when they made Brock the youngest WWE Champion in history. Then Brock screwed them and fucked off, so they decided to break Brock's record. Orton then became the youngest WH Champion in history.

But they can't "undo" Taker's streak. Say if Barrett breaks the streak, but then fucks off to do better things, they can't take the streak back. They can't press the reset button.

I think whoever breaks the streak will fail to live up to the hype and expectations, and fail to run with the torch.

With Shawn Michaels, they tried their luck in having an established veteran be a threat to Taker's streak. This made things believable. It made you think that Michaels actually had a chance to end the streak. That he was a legitimate threat.

So I wonder which is the best option? Have the streak broken by:

-established veterans (ie. Orton, Cena, Edge, Michaels, Kane)
-relatively newcomers (ie. Barrett, Sheamus, Miz, Punk, Swagger)
-the latest green rookie (ie. someone we haven't seen yet. Like how Brock was when he first burst onto the scene)
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The biggest problem is whoever breaks the streak would get one of the biggest pushes of a lifetime in the WWE. It would be unwise to waste it on someone the writing team might neglect after a while like they do to the majority of good wrestlers or if the person himself isn't ready for the huge pressure that will come from breaking the streak.

If they want to break the streak but can't find anyone, then just ask the Undertaker who he feels should earn the honor and it would show the wrestler that Taker has his personal blessing to become the future of the WWE.
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Old 12-25-2010, 02:46 AM   #31
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The biggest problem is whoever breaks the streak would get one of the biggest pushes of a lifetime in the WWE. It would be unwise to waste it on someone the writing team might neglect after a while like they do to the majority of good wrestlers or if the person himself isn't ready for the huge pressure that will come from breaking the streak.

If they want to break the streak but can't find anyone, then just ask the Undertaker who he feels should earn the honor and it would show the wrestler that Taker has his personal blessing to become the future of the WWE.
"Ending The Streak" would be better suited to a wrestler who already is a veteran and has a trayectory and would add that to his resume, to take him to another level of greatness, rather than a young guy...because if a young guy does it, ok, it's got momentary greatness, but with time, it'll turn into something like when Jericho beat Austin and The Rock, a great moment, but after a while, people would joke that "after all that time, Jericho still talks about when he beat Rock and Austin on the same night". It'll be the same if a young guy with a whole career ahead of him ends The Streak...it'll give him some momentary greatness, but it won't last much, and within time, people will be like "He still talks about when he beat Undertaker at WrestleMania".
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Old 12-25-2010, 01:54 AM   #32
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If anyone deserves to keep a "legacy streak" like this it's Undertaker.

Dude has been absolutely loyal to the company for almost 2 decades now. Ever hear rumors about Taker considering moving to WCW back during the Monday Night Wars era? No? It's because it never happened. Taker has put over everyone from The Rock, Stone Cold, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Randy Orton, Batista, Kane, Jeff Hardy and Brock Lesnar, and has done it all without bitching or trying to "hold onto his spot." He's earned legendary status and has never let it go to his head like Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair.

To end the streak now, when he's so close to 20-0 and the end of his career, would be ridiculous.
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...Dudes, I just think there's NO WAY WWE can have Undertaker lose at WrestleMania after so much exposure has been given to "The Streak". It would do some damage to Undertaker's legacy, because it's not the difference between 0 loses, and 1 loss, is BIG.
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Said it before, will say it again. The only person who would make sense and who I would accept is Kane.

That ship sailed years ago.

And if they didnt use it to blow more smoke up Cenas ass, then I don't see them ever doing it.
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I remember it being mentioned that The Undertaker already wanted for the streak to end to put someone over. So no, it wouldn't be a dick move on his behalf.
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Oh, shit. Shadrick beat me to it.

Should've read the whole thread before posting I guess.
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I say he keeps it intact,and comes back every year that he can and adds another one on.I don't care if he wrestles any other match during the year. There's only been 2 years when I wanted him to lose,and that was against HBK.Other then that I'd be happy to see him show up as a once a year attraction and chalk up another one.
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like I said before, it's a fake streak. Is it really an honor to retire with something like this? In a setting where writers control the outcome of a match, I don't see it as some sacred thing that can't be touched.

This is professional wrestling where people always talk about big time moments. The streak needs to be broken before he retires. It will be one of the greatest moments in wrestling history when he goes down at Wrestlemania.

So yes, it needs to be broken before he goes out
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like I said before, it's a fake streak. Is it really an honor to retire with something like this? In a setting where writers control the outcome of a match, I don't see it as some sacred thing that can't be touched.

This is professional wrestling where people always talk about big time moments. The streak needs to be broken before he retires. It will be one of the greatest moments in wrestling history when he goes down at Wrestlemania.

So yes, it needs to be broken before he goes out
yea i agree and there is about 5 young wresters that can do it, just which one will taker give the rub too. swager, drew, zeke shamus, or wade are the top contenders, or a wildard like husky.
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like I said before, it's a fake streak. Is it really an honor to retire with something like this? In a setting where writers control the outcome of a match, I don't see it as some sacred thing that can't be touched.

This is professional wrestling where people always talk about big time moments. The streak needs to be broken before he retires. It will be one of the greatest moments in wrestling history when he goes down at Wrestlemania.

So yes, it needs to be broken before he goes out
I think you make a really good point with this. My question is how should it be done? Should it be a huge, epic face versus face confrontation like John Cena vs. Undertaker? Or should Taker go on like a 6 month mega heel streak as the WWE Champion in 2011 and then get beat by the freshest underdog babyface in the company at the moment?
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