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Old 01-06-2011, 11:51 AM   #1
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Which is worse?
Gimmick matches with guys who can't wrestle or stupid unrealistic end-of-match stipulations like "loser loses his girlfriend"?

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Old 01-06-2011, 11:56 AM   #2
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If the second type of match has great wrestlers in it, I don't see a problem...so I guess I would say stupid gimmick matches with bad wrestlers is worse. Who would say otherwise?
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:56 AM   #3
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Also, the 'Love Her or Leave Her' match at Summerslam 99 was amazing...and it had frickin' Shane McMahon and Test.
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:57 AM   #4
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...I don't understand the premise behind this thread.

You want us to mention bad gimmick matches, or debate about the ones you mentioned?
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Old 01-06-2011, 11:58 AM   #5
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Stupid gimmick matches with bad wrestlers. Both are pretty bad, but Id rather watch the gimmick match then two dudes fighting over the rights a chick who herself has a choice.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:00 PM   #6
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OP reminded me of when Test & Scott Steiner had a years worth of matches w/ the same stip - winner gets Stacy Keibler. Definitely worse than crappy gimmick matches.
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Stupid gimmick matches with bad wrestlers. Both are pretty bad, but Id rather watch the gimmick match then two dudes fighting over the rights a chick who herself has a choice.
What if the two dudes fighting over the chick are Shawn Michaels and Kurt Angle? You still would rater see Kennel From Hell?
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:03 PM   #8
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What if the two dudes fighting over the chick are Shawn Michaels and Kurt Angle? You still would rater see Kennel From Hell?
Hmm... Could they be fighting in the Kennel from Hell?
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:09 PM   #9
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If I'm not mistaken:

OPTION A: A stupid gimmick match with bad wrestlers

OPTION B: An unrealistic stipulation match, wrestlers may vary

Why on earth would anyone prefer option A?
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:11 PM   #10
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"I need my wrestling to be as realistic as possible!"

Yeah, OK. It's professional wrestling, guys.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:12 PM   #11
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If I'm not mistaken:

OPTION A: A stupid gimmick match with bad wrestlers

OPTION B: An unrealistic stipulation match, wrestlers may vary

Why on earth would anyone prefer option A?
Because they love a good train wreck.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:14 PM   #12
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I'd love another "Buried Alive Match". I like those.

"Casket Matches", not so much.

Also, I think it's sad that the "Hell in a Cell" match has been devalued so much. It used to be awesome, but now it's almost like a regular Steel Cage Match.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:15 PM   #13
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Because they love a good train wreck.
But option B still has the potential to be a five star match...just with a stupid stipulation. If Chris Jericho and Shawn Michaels are having a blood feud over a fucking ham sandwich, it doesn't really matter to me as long as the match is good.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:16 PM   #14
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If the second type of match has great wrestlers in it, I don't see a problem...so I guess I would say stupid gimmick matches with bad wrestlers is worse. Who would say otherwise?
It's kind of philosophical...if you have two amazing wrestlers in a match booked by Russo and the winner gets to be King of the Wieners while the loser has to wear a pink dress for three months, it kind of ruins it for me.

Mind you, I ended up like Perry Saturn in a dress...
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:20 PM   #15
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Russo probably booked the ridiculous gimmick match, too.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:23 PM   #16
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Some of you are plainly telling me that you'd rather see guys who suck wrestle in some ridiculous environment as opposed to two guys who are amazing wrestle over something 'unrealistic' like a 'woman'.

I really don't see how fighting over a woman is ridiculous or unrealistic. People have been doing it for years. Sure in real life, the woman has a say in it, but there's a certain level of belief that you just HAVE to suspend to even be a wrestling fan. This is a silly thread, and you are all making me sick.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:26 PM   #17
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Ill take me some Khali/ Bob Holly in a Chamber of Horrors Match.
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Loser wears a tampon to the PPV.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:33 PM   #19
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Loser wears a tampon to the PPV.
This.

I'm just saying that if two bad wrestlers have a gimmick match, they have the potential to entertain more than they would having a regular crappy match. So there is potential for good or at least improvement.

If you have Jericho and Bryan Danielson feuding over who is the better dancer and their stipulation is that the loser can never dance again, it takes away from the match. Watching it you lose the ability to truly understand the motivation involved. It's a throw-away.

Are amazing wrestlers sometimes able to overcome stupid angles and still have 5 star matches? Yeah, though I can't think of one right now.
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Name some more of these 'stupid stipulations' you're referring to. Most of them here have been completely made up. There's never been a 'loser wears a tampon to the PPV match'.
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Edge and Booker T's shampoo commercial, Pillman and Goldust loser wears a dress, Shane and Test love her or leave her...all decent to good matches.
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There's never been a 'loser wears a tampon to the PPV match'.
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Old 01-06-2011, 12:41 PM   #23
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Gimmick matches with guys who can't wrestle or stupid unrealistic end-of-match stipulations like "loser loses his girlfriend"?

No poll coming.
Stupid match stipulations because you always damn well know that stuff wont last and be forgotten in a month tops. At least a bad gimmick match is hilarious.
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What was hilarious about the Punjabi Prison match?
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The name for starters...I dunno bout u but I dont take my wrestling seriously if I see two guys who cant wrestle try to put on a match and fail I laugh my ass off!
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This one meets both A and B:

Viagra on a pole.
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Option A is worse clearly. A crap stipulation match with good wrestlers should still be a good match. Just with a shitty ending.
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This one meets both A and B:

Viagra on a pole.
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Judy Bagwell on a poll match. Which ever that falls into is my vote.
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Option A is worse clearly. A crap stipulation match with good wrestlers should still be a good match. Just with a shitty ending.
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Rights to the Harlem Heat name and the letter 'T':
WCW SuperBrawl 2000, Big T v Booker

Ladder match for Custody of Dominick

Oh, Sixx, Kidman and Shane Douglas apparently wanted to fuck someone so they had a match about it and the winner got a bottle of pills to fuck the chick, I think.
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Rights to the Harlem Heat name and the letter 'T':
WCW SuperBrawl 2000, Big T v Booker

Ladder match for Custody of Dominick

Oh, Sixx, Kidman and Shane Douglas apparently wanted to fuck someone so they had a match about it and the winner got a bottle of pills to fuck the chick, I think.
Thats really retarded. So the guy who wins admits that hes got problems getting it up ?
Rofl.
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I read it as date rape pills, not viagra.

Anyway, Booker T had been a part of Harlem Heat for a loooooooooong time, and it really meant a lot to him. Some new guy thinks he's a big shot and tries to take it all from him. What's wrong with that?

Also, that ladder match was fucking amazing.

That last one...I'd have to know more about.
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I completely understand your side of this ABT, one look at CZW shows the extreme end of my first subject. However, my point is simply that I want my matches with my beloved wrestlers to mean something. I'm not against comedy matches with silly stips when they're called for, however, having a totally stupid end-of-match stip can ruin a good thing. The Rey-Eddie match was technically a great match but, god, was the stip awful. Completely unneeded and for me it lessened the match.

I get hung up on shit sometimes, not always but, sometimes.
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That stipulation, feud, and match were all amazing. You're a silly boy.
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If only all custody disputes could be resolved in ladder matches or in a steel cage.
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In the realm of professional wrestling, how the fuck else would you do it? Should it have gone down like Little People's Court? It was an innovative angle, and it wasn't so silly that you couldn't get emotionally drawn in.
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Everyone is different. Accept that. I didn't like it.
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I understand that everyone is different. I don't understand preferring a Punjabi Prison match over Mysterio/Guererro.
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The Mountie going to jail after he lost to the Bossman was one of the greatest moments of my childhood. So all of you who are poopooing stipulations can fuck off.
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