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Old 01-11-2011, 07:31 PM   #1
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Brock must like the water in the Shark tank! This is how he's gonna come back from getting dismantled??? War Brock!

FROM SHERDOG.COM

Ending months of speculation, UFC President Dana White today revealed that former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar and top prospect Junior dos Santos will coach the upcoming 13th season of “The Ultimate Fighter,” after which they will square off to determine the heavyweight division’s No. 1 contender.

“These two will coach, and then they’ll fight, and the winner will fight [UFC heavyweight champion] Cain Velasquez when he’s healthy,” White said during a media conference call to promote the UFC’s Jan. 22 UFC “Fight for the Troops 2” event.

In late December, it was reported that Velasquez would be sidelined for six to eight months with a torn right rotator cuff which required surgery. White said that the UFC’s original plan was to match Velasquez against dos Santos at UFC 129 on April 30 in Toronto, but that the “TUF” idea simply fell into place after learning of Velasquez’s injury.

“It made all the sense in the world once we knew how long Cain was gonna be out,” said White, who stressed that no interim title would be created in the champion’s absence.

“I literally hadn’t made any phone calls yet and we hadn’t contacted anyone [about coaching]... I was driving to work one morning and I thought, ‘You know what? That makes sense. Let’s see if we can do this.’”

Filming for the series is set to begin in the last week of January, with the season premiering March 30 on Spike TV. The latest iteration of the UFC’s long-running reality television series will feature a cast comprised solely of 170-pound competitors. Welterweights have previously been featured in the show’s second, fourth, sixth and ninth seasons, which yielded current UFC fighters Joe Stevenson, Matt Serra, Mac Danzig and James Wilks, respectively.

The season’s tournament winner will be crowned at the “TUF 13” live finale, which MMAJunkie.com reports will take place on June 4 at The Pearl at the Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas.

No date was announced for the bout between the heavyweight coaches, but White said that Lesnar and dos Santos would “definitely, 100 percent” meet at a June UFC pay-per-view event. UFC 131 is rumored to take place on June 11 -- one week after after the finale -- at Rogers Arena in Vancouver.

Lesnar was handed the second loss of his nascent MMA career by Velasquez in October, when he had his belt taken in a brutal first-round TKO loss at UFC 121. Prior to that match, the former pro-wrestling star had rattled off four straight wins, including stoppages of such UFC luminaries as Randy Couture and Frank Mir.

One of the heavyweight divisions brightest prospects, dos Santos is undefeated in his six Octagon outings. After bursting onto the scene with a knockout of Fabricio Werdum in his UFC debut, the 26-year-old “Cigano” tore through Stefan Struve, Mirko Filipovic, Gilbert Yvel and Gabriel Gonzaga, stopping all four with punches. Dos Santos went the distance for the first time in his career last August, when he took a unanimous decision over Roy Nelson to become the No. 1 heavyweight contender.



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Old 01-11-2011, 07:47 PM   #2
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Do you guys think Dana is going with Brock and JDS in response to the Strikeforce Heavyweight tourney and maybe that was why it took him so long to announce the coaches?
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Old 01-11-2011, 07:50 PM   #3
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absolutely this is why Dana went with this fight. Before the announcement of the HW GP, Faber/whoever would have been the best possible matchup.
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Old 01-11-2011, 08:00 PM   #4
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Kinda sucks for Dos Santos cause he already had the title shot but the ratings will be huge for TUF and all around good for UFC so..
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Lesnar's last fight in MMA then.
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It's win/win for the UFC. The ratings for TUF will be high and if Lesnar wins they'll have their biggest money maker back in the title hunt. If Lesnar loses it will make JDS a more mainstream name and Brock can go back to the WWE with his tail between his legs.
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Old 01-11-2011, 08:34 PM   #7
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In Vancouver too? Holy shit...too bad I won't have $500 to spend on a ticket.
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Canada and Vegas get all the good fights. God forbid MMA goes south of the Mason Dixon line. Maybe we can get an all women's Strikeforce Challenger's card one day down here... that might even be asking too much... although Amanda Nunes definitely gets a "Dat Ass!" award.
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Poor Brock, fed to the sharks again.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:13 PM   #10
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Are they supposed to pay him not to fight??
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Yeah, but maybe Chiek Kongo or Ben Rothwell.
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I cant wait to watch JDS knock Lesnar out.
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Dunno why everyone is sleeping on Lesnar.. IMO the fight against Carwin solidified him as a champ.. Sure he got rocked but in MMA, if you don't get rocked you aren't fighting the right people.. He weathered the storm and pulled off a high level submission.. Sure Carwin was gassed but that just proves how tough Lesnar was.. He took for five minutes what no one else had been able to take for a minute and a half.. Sure Velasquez out boxed him but every fighter gets beat.. It's how they come back from those losses that pave their legacies.. Dos Santos is a devastating striker but he is unproven off his back.. And if you think Lesnar can't put him there, you are fooling yourself..
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I think he is completly capable of putting him JDS on his back, but Cain showed you can get up, and we've seen that when Brock gets tagged he turtles. I just think at some point JDS is going to catch him and knock him out.
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:17 PM   #15
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Dos Santos isn't as big and strong as Carwin.. He won't be able to get up as easily..
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The most underused punch in MMA is not the jab, it's the uppercut. JDS specializes in the Uppercut. Brock's suspect guard is very prone to JDS's signature punch. Let's see if the uppercut can get off before the double leg goes down
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:37 PM   #17
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Dunno why everyone is sleeping on Lesnar.. IMO the fight against Carwin solidified him as a champ.. Sure he got rocked but in MMA, if you don't get rocked you aren't fighting the right people.. He weathered the storm and pulled off a high level submission.. Sure Carwin was gassed but that just proves how tough Lesnar was.. He took for five minutes what no one else had been able to take for a minute and a half.. Sure Velasquez out boxed him but every fighter gets beat.. It's how they come back from those losses that pave their legacies.. Dos Santos is a devastating striker but he is unproven off his back.. And if you think Lesnar can't put him there, you are fooling yourself..
Jesus Christ I agree with you, how about that.
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Dunno why everyone is sleeping on Lesnar.. IMO the fight against Carwin solidified him as a champ.. Sure he got rocked but in MMA, if you don't get rocked you aren't fighting the right people.. He weathered the storm and pulled off a high level submission.. Sure Carwin was gassed but that just proves how tough Lesnar was.. He took for five minutes what no one else had been able to take for a minute and a half.. Sure Velasquez out boxed him but every fighter gets beat.. It's how they come back from those losses that pave their legacies.. Dos Santos is a devastating striker but he is unproven off his back.. And if you think Lesnar can't put him there, you are fooling yourself..
Im pretty much going to disagree with everything you just said here....


The carwin fight exposed brock and gave everyone the blueprint on how to beat him which is, stop the first takedown and then punch him in the face. Then pick your punches.

He in NO WAY pulled a high level submission. He did an arm triangle. Thats a white belt level move. Not that thats a terrible thing because its a great move but its one of the most basic and first moves you learn.

Yes, every fighter gets beat. Lesnar got slaughtered. TWICE

For lesnar's sake i hope he is a fish out of water on the mat because if he can stop the takedown or at least get up right away, lesnar is fucked.

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Carwin didnt get up... he stopped the takedown. Cain got up and hes smaller than jds
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ummm i dont know where u got that but its still the jab, but yea lesnars shoulders are so big he cant cover his head without crossing his arms which leaves the perfect opening underneath.
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Call me nuts Reav, but I see way more jabs than i see uppercuts when I watch a night of fights. Now, I'm not talking about using a jab ala GSP...I'm talking about simply the use of it over a card or night of fights.
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The most underutilized move in MMA is the "Cheick Kongo".... It's a nut shot disguised as an inside leg kick.
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Reavant, Cain is a wrestler, Dos Santos comes from a striking background.. I realize he is a brown belt under nog but American wrestler possess a different kind of strength..
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Call me nuts Reav, but I see way more jabs than i see uppercuts when I watch a night of fights. Now, I'm not talking about using a jab ala GSP...I'm talking about simply the use of it over a card or night of fights.

Its still the jab
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Reavant, Cain is a wrestler, Dos Santos comes from a striking background.. I realize he is a brown belt under nog but American wrestler possess a different kind of strength..
That's fine but it still doesn't change anything I said. You don't need to be a high level wrestler to stop a shot especially if you keep a guy in striking range and especially if the wrestler is affraid to get hit.
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My question is, will Brock be able to teach/train guys or will he even show up? Brock is notoriously fickle and seclusive, and a moody bitch...not that I would ever say it to his face. But for some reason I have a feeling he will act a lot like Shamrock did if not worse on TUF. Just kind of show up, not help the guys, and get an attitude.
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I thinkBrock changed a lot after his surgeries and will be a good coach.

I also can DAMN WELL bet on the fact that Brock will crush Dos Santos and take his belt back from Velsquez. Brock isnt done and all these rumors about him going to WWE are all just wish ful thinking.
 
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Yea no he wont..
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I think its funny that he agree'd to fight someone who has equal, if not slightly better, striking as Cain.

Only way Brock would improve is if he stopped being scared of getting hit in the face.
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My question is, will Brock be able to teach/train guys or will he even show up? Brock is notoriously fickle and seclusive, and a moody bitch...not that I would ever say it to his face. But for some reason I have a feeling he will act a lot like Shamrock did if not worse on TUF. Just kind of show up, not help the guys, and get an attitude.
Yeah I get that same feeling.
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I think its funny that he agree'd to fight someone who has equal, if not slightly better, striking as Cain.

Only way Brock would improve is if he stopped being scared of getting hit in the face.
JDS has the best hands at HW in the UFC, so it's safe to say he's a better striker than Cain, atleast for now. I just really hope JDS wins and we don't have to see Brock get dismantled by Cain again.
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Dunno why you guys hate on Lesnar so much.. I mean, if it wasn't for him, we prolly wouldn't be talking about the hw division right now..
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But then again, the same could be said about Dana White, who everyone hates, but if it weren't for him, we wouldn't be discussing MMA right now..
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a guy with like 5 fights as a coach.


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The coaches are just figure heads.. Lesnar is gonna draw huge ratings..
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Dunno why you guys hate on Lesnar so much.. I mean, if it wasn't for him, we prolly wouldn't be talking about the hw division right now..
noones hating on lesnar. we just all see where he is as a fighter now and we know what it takes to beat him. no ones calling him names or anything theyre just saying hes going to get his ass kicked because in his last two outings he did.
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But then again, the same could be said about Dana White, who everyone hates, but if it weren't for him, we wouldn't be discussing MMA right now..
People hate Dana White cause he's a cocky douchbag, who seems to think he's hard because he's from Boston.
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Dunno, only ever seems that people who tend to take life a bit too seriously hate Dana White.

And I think people are writing Brock off a bit too quickly.
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Dana White takes himself too seriously. The man will lose his mind in a second if you were to question him, or the appeal of MMA.
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Cause he has spent the last decade plus bringing it to where it is today..
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