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Old 03-24-2011, 02:19 PM   #1
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Do you consider wrestling to be "fake" or "artistic combat"
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I think people would at least throw the word 'fake' around a lot less and the word 'artistic combat' or some other phrase around a lot more



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Old 03-24-2011, 02:22 PM   #2
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I watch ROH, so artistic combat.

Side note, "art" is being toss around too much these days. Video games are art, wrestling is art, making pancakes is art. Fuck the world. I miss when art was art and nothing else.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:24 PM   #3
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No BDC. ROH is real, hence their chant "this is wrestling!" Didn't you get the memo?
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:27 PM   #4
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it is real artistic combat, geez.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:27 PM   #5
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By calling it an "art", you get to roll your eyes at people who don't like it and go "You just don't understand it".
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:42 PM   #6
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Wrestlemania 27 is gonna be the greatest artistic combat event of all time.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:45 PM   #7
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better than sports entertainment
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:45 PM   #8
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:47 PM   #9
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I always consider wrestling as 'staged' 'choreographed and rehearsed', i hate when someone refers it as 'fake'.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:52 PM   #10
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It's not fake. You can't fake a powerbomb or an F5. It's scripted and the "actors" are heavily trained (though some have you think otherwise) to deal with the physicality.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:53 PM   #11
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scripted is another one i refer it to.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:53 PM   #12
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You know the ring has give in it and the wrestler's know how to land properly so you can kinda fake a powerbomb if you wanna get right down to it. I mean in comparison to say picking a dude up and dropping him on the back of his head on concrete.
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Old 03-24-2011, 02:59 PM   #14
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I always consider wrestling as 'staged' 'choreographed and rehearsed', i hate when someone refers it as 'fake'.
no one gives a fuck what you think because you still like south park
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i've created a memester
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:01 PM   #17
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You created a vacuum in your mouth when you sucked that dudes dick.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:04 PM   #18
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No, i probably wasn't doing it right.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:14 PM   #19
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FAKE

Enough said.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:23 PM   #20
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Any form of pro wrestling is fake, you can dress it up and call it staged or scripted if it makes you feel better, but at the end of the day its still pretend.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:40 PM   #21
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DDP once said it best. "Wrestling isn't fake, it's fixed"

I believe that some of the moves they preform really hurt. Sure they sell move to hurt more then it really does, and they know how to take the bumps. But a body slam to a cement floor is going to hurt. Even if one knows how to land to prevent serious injury.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:42 PM   #22
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If it's a pre-determined outcome then it's fake.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:58 PM   #23
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"artistic combat"

I would consider it more similar to scripted stuntmen with some improvisation during a match.
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:18 PM   #24
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well coming from a world champien i will tell u this the out come might be panned but its real very real to me and it depends on what u mean by artistic 4 example rappin is a art and if u r free style battling well there u go art + combat = artisan combat. i can say this i have always give the fan a chance if u wanna battle me lets go right ahead world life keep it real. this business u have a passion 4 or u dont and if u dont i have 2 words for u suck it. never give up never surender never retire. rock if u loved wwe u would be in a wheel chair ps ric flair aint got shit on me im going to beat his chmapien records hustle loyalty respect and i have to take my hat off to all the wrestler who never give up and want to please the fans especialy gient gonsolez \m/
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:33 PM   #25
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John Morrison and Daniel Bryan? Perhaps. Big Show, John Cena... no, not really at all.
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I just call it the wrestling show.
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Wrestling is a lot more think on your feet improv and a lotless scripting most of the time. And when I said this, in context, I was referring to the way people would look at wrestling if wwe showed various styles such as kings road, lucha, strong style, hybrid etc.

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Also for the record. Tjp once told me in a tweet that it's all food just different flavors. I do a southern style and try to throw in spots that are more reversal heavy so I dunno what that's called, probably hybrid or just showman, I mean it's really about how the match is built. I respect what everyone from John cena to johnny saint does. But I prefer to watch roh over tna. I'll probably Always keep up with www though, no matter what. And I can't say that about anything but evolve and dgusa, since I don't really keep up with roh that much since te tv show was a little watered down I felt. And since dgusa and evolve are leas than two years old that isn't saying much.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:50 PM   #30
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"fake" is too strong and "artistic combat" is FAAAAAAAR too gay.....
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It's just entertainment. I equate it to a TV show or a movie. Sure, when Big Show Chokeslams John Cena through a giant stage spotlight it's "fake," in the same sense that Batman flipping over the semi-truck driven by The Joker is "fake" in The Dark Knight. They planned it out for our entertainment.

Artistic combat sounds retarded as hell. Bruce Lee did artistic combat. John Morrison does professional wrestling.
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:51 PM   #33
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lol 'artistic combat'. It's a fucking work, there's no combat involved. And he has the audacity to call other people marks with the title of that other thread. Twat.
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"fake" is too strong and "artistic combat" is FAAAAAAAR too gay.....
Men in wrestling trunks grabbing each other into holds isn't any gayer.
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On those grounds, neither is MMA.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:35 PM   #36
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I think people would at least throw the word 'fake' around a lot less and the word 'artistic combat' or some other phrase around a lot more



I've been laughing at this for about 5 minutes now.

He's got a point.

I mean, if we call wrestling fake, how do we distinguish between wrestlers and fake wrestlers like Destor and Clox?
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When I get ragged on for liking it, I liken wrestling to a neverending soap opera that ends in predetermined, choreographed contests. Wrestlers are basically stunt men with lines. Some guys happen to be better at their jobs (HBK) than others (Khali).

And I use the "you just don't see it the way I do" line when people ask how I could continue to watch it.
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He's got a point.

I mean, if we call wrestling fake, how do we distinguish between wrestlers and fake wrestlers like Destor and Clox?
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:37 PM   #39
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Wrestling is "fake."

The Simpsons is "fake."

Pulp Fiction is "fake."

Great Expectations is "fake."

The Mona Lisa is "fake."

The Creation of Adam (on the Sistine Chapel) is "fake."

What's so bad about being fake? All art is fake i9n one way or another. Wrestlers aren't really fighting to win a championship belt. The Simpson family hasn't really been around for over two decades yet haven't aged. Mia Wallace never really got an adrenaline shot stabbed into her heart. Pip never really had a mysterious benifactor. That picture hanging up in the Louvre isn't an actual woman. God isn't really breathing life into man on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. All of it is a fake. But that doesn't make it all any less special.

art
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–noun
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the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.
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the class of objects subject to aesthetic criteria; works of art collectively, as paintings, sculptures, or drawings: a museum of art; an art collection.
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a field, genre, or category of art: Dance is an art.
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the fine arts collectively, often excluding architecture: art and architecture.
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any field using the skills or techniques of art: advertising art; industrial art.
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(in printed matter) illustrative or decorative material: Is there any art with the copy for this story?
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the principles or methods governing any craft or branch of learning: the art of baking; the art of selling.
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the craft or trade using these principles or methods.
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skill in conducting any human activity: a master at the art of conversation.
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skilled workmanship, execution, or agency, as distinguished from nature.
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trickery; cunning: glib and devious art.
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studied action; artificiality in behavior.
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an artifice or artful device: the innumerable arts and wiles of politics.
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Archaic . science, learning, or scholarship.


Art... is a very broad term, and yes... WRESTLING is an art.

Scoff if you will.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:50 PM   #40
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Hmm I've always considered wrestling to be more like dance than a sport, so yeah sure lets call it artistic combat.
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