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Old 04-06-2011, 03:27 AM   #1
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Hard-working Sega mascot Sonic the Hedgehog turns 20-years-old this summer. Surely Sega must have grand plans for the "Blast Processing" pioneer, right? Right. And we'll find out what those plans are this week—or have we already?

Sega has begun prepping us for exciting announcements, warning that "There's something big coming this week to the Sonic Facebook page" and that the company will "start celebrating on Thurs 7th April." Could that celebration be related to the recently unearthed Sonic Generations web sites?

New domain registrations for SonicGenerations.com and Sonic-Generations.com were spotted by expert URL finder Superannuation earlier this week, potential clues about Sega's plans for a new Sonic the Hedgehog game.

Last year's effort, Sonic Colors for the Wii, was warmly received by fans and critics, so let's hope Sega has learned from that game's smart use of 2D and 3D gameplay and its lack of Sonic sidekicks. They should just go ahead and more of that.
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Old 04-06-2011, 03:48 AM   #2
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Not even bothering to get my hopes up for this upcoming aborted fetus.
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Announcing the announcement. Classy.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:15 AM   #4
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Pandering by including both new sonic and old sonic.

First time I seen that image, I had the same reaction as Jim Sterling.

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At first I almost shot myself because it looked like Sonic was getting a son, before I realized it was just Genesis Sonic and not some new, terrible child.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:23 AM   #5
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Seriously only the most demented fans of any franchise would look the tiny differences between those two Sonics and make them a big fucking deal. Fuck Sonic fans.
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Old 04-07-2011, 10:24 AM   #6
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It's not like Mega Man to X to Vollnut to Star Force or some shit. Jesus.

"Where's his belly and why is his eyes green arrgh!" STFU

I read this. I actually read comments like this.
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Old 04-07-2011, 02:35 PM   #7
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A bit weird it is not available for the Wii (or DS) considering the Wii version of almost every Sonic game outsold the Xbox 360/PS3 versions although I could see this being something to even out Sonic Colors only being on the Wii and DS last time.
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Old 04-07-2011, 11:37 PM   #9
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Sega did their best last year with the well received Sonic Colors and throw-back Sonic 4. Neither game was awesome but it was Sega's best efforts in years and the fans were being bitches. They deserve their torment. In a sea of over-entitled consumers that group gets the cake.

The original games simply weren't that good.
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Hate the praise Colours gets. It's like "SONICS BACK TO MEDIOCRE FROM TERRIBLE". It's better than the rest, not "good".

And bullshit about the old games being that good. I didn't play Sonic 3 & Knuckles until 2002 and it is amazing. I still complete it everytime I'm off sick from work.
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I really like the animation of retro Sonic in that trailer. I like the little bounce when he hits the ground and the fact he moves his arms while running.

I'm thinking they might do the game as a mixture of 2D and 3D.

I'm thinking this will happen:
Dr. Eggman and/or Dr. Robotnik does something that causes the two dimensions to cross over. Both Sonics team up to stop them and restore both dimension to their original states. The gameplay will basically be Modern Sonic playing like Sonic Adventure 2 style levels (or maybe like Unleashed daytime levels) and Retro Sonic will get the classic side scrolling levels.

Question: The game is likely going to have dialogue and that means Retro Sonic will talk. They can't give him the same voice as Modern Sonic so will they get Jaleel White in to voice him, if he does have speech?
I don't think anyone else voiced Sonic until he got his new look with the SA games, which is also when he got the current look so they couldn't use those voice actors either.
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What happened to Sonic the Hedgehog 4?
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What happened to Sonic the Hedgehog 4?
SEGA announced a while back that Episode 2 would be out this year (I think they said Summer but I'm not 100% about that.) and it would address the problems people had with Episode 1.
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what do you mean what happened
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I mean why don't they finish that game before they release another one. Why are they always working on 5 mediocre Sonic games instead of one good one?
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Is robotnik going to be in this one?
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It appears that a lot of levels in this game are rumored to be remixes of classic levels from past Sonic games and this game might eventually be on all systems with a 3DS version also being rumored in development.
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So you literally play fat Sonic in 2D and Urkel Sonic in 3D. This kinda undermines the whole point of Sonic 4, but it's also a direct response to the fandom bitching. So I can't wait to see how they react. The Sonic Cycle is strong indeed.

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Sloppy premise, imo. Like Street Fighter 2 Anniversary where you pick different versions of each character. Eh.
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So what is the difference between classic and modern?
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I mean...they gave Sonic green eyes, and he has gotten taller, kinda. But it would be like saying Bart from the first season of Simpson and Bart from the latest season are different people because the style has slightly changed over 20 years...No it is still the same character. This is dumb.
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Also the "classic" sonic sections look like shit.
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I think Sonic has changed as a character. Besides the obvious visual difference, he doesn't seem as "rude dude with attitude" as he did in the 90's. He seems to be pretty bland now, characterwise.

Though no one complains about that. It's just the look they don't like.

I think Sonic Generations looks good.

Here are some notes about it:

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- Retro Sonics levels are the old style side scrolling levels.
- You have a jump and a dash button.
- Retro Sonic has momentum like he did in the old games so he wont just stop like in Sonic 4.
- Courses are multi-layered and fast.
- Modern Sonics levels are in 3D (as in the camera is behind him)
- He has a boost meter and an air-dash.
- You get boost by destroying enemies, collecting rings and doing air tricks.
- The game celebrates three eras of Sonic: Retro, Dreamcast & Modern through levels, enemies etc.
- Soundtrack is remixes of classic Sonic music.
- Levels are based on classic and modern games one of which is Act 1 of Green Hill Zone from Sonic 1.
- There may be modern levels redone for Retro Sonic and retro levels redone for Modern Sonic.
- Other series characters appear but SEGA promises we'll only play as Sonic and no powers like the werehog etc.
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Old 04-18-2011, 05:12 PM   #28
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Sonic has a character?
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Sonic has a character?
His character used to be everything Mario wasn't or an anti-Mario but as a good guy. If Mario favored slow and precision movements while using powerups, then Sonic favored speed over precision and doesn't use powerups for help.

Last decade or so, he's been adding a lot of Mario's abilities into his own which has changed him (ex. powerups, love intrest, more emphasis on jumps).
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Old 04-18-2011, 05:26 PM   #30
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Actually I have things to say about that...

Sonic was crafted to be this 90's mall-rat attitude thing, but that personality only ever manifested through animations and box art. In the 3D era his personality shifted to something of a... superhero, I guess. Not as rude, more selfless. And Shadow inherited the darker points to build contrast between them. Even still, I don't consider Sonic to be a character of deep personality. To be honest, very few icons from back in the day did. They survived of the strength of their gameplay - so whenever a recent game tried to explore them... it falls short.

I personally consider Sonic to be elemental, a collection of broad strokes that wouldn't really fly in today's character design. Like all the icons from back then (including Mario and Link), their 'character' can be summed up by your actions. Sonic's a freedom fighter with attitude. Mario's an inter-dimensional rescuer who plays sports. Link is a timeless title given to boy adventurers who also rescues princesses.

They don't need character so much as vague job titles - but then you play their games. I think that's actually something today's developers forgotten. And when it peaks back out (through DKC and Metroid reboots, Mario revivals) we're reminded how much we were content with that provided the game was awesome. Now it's like... dialogue, motivations, backstory. Can you imagine an origin story for Mario? Where would you even start? I mean with Link you're always playing an origin story of sorts at the start of a Zelda game, but it's hardly Batman Begins.

tldr: I miss Super Mario 64.
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I hate watching other people play sonic because they don't do it right.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:15 PM   #32
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So are you playing the same levels as both Sonics? The classic Sonic is all side scrolling and the new Sonic is running in the same levels, just in the 3ds dimension? Kind of like Super Paper Mario? Or are you playing as the two different Sonics in different levels?

Will Sega actually get the game right this time? That's all I care about. I kind of want to try Sonic Colors.
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Old 04-19-2011, 04:38 PM   #33
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One example of levels in Green Hill Zone. Both Sonics have that level but not the same route. There is a screenshot of Retro Sonic running around a loop like he did in the old games and another of Modern Sonic jumping through it like the eye of a needle.
I think they'll both start at Green Hill Zone and then split off into their own levels.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:23 PM   #34
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:15 AM   #35
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Anyone in the UK that wants Sonic Generations, I suggest you preorder it now from GAME.

They have it priced at £32.99 for both the 360 and PS3 but I'm betting the price will rise to £39.99 once they get the official RRP. It's happened to a couple games I preordered, including L.A. Noire (though I un-preordered that).

Even if you're not sure if you want it, I'd say preorder it anyway, just incase. There's no release date and they don't charge you until they ship it to you anyway. So, if you do end up wanting it, you have it ordered at the cheaper price than you would probably pay closer to release.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:19 AM   #36
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:43 PM   #38
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Modern Sonic just looks more thrilling. They better rock some Crush 40 for the modern levels.
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I just got an email from GAME, letting me know that the game has a release month in the UK. October 2011.
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Nintendo Power confirms the game will also be coming to the 3DS after weeks of rumors.

Either SEGA had an agreement with Nintendo to reveal it in Nintendo Power or SEGA got lazy with their announcements for it to have waited this long.
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