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Old 04-19-2011, 09:08 PM   #1
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WWE's Could Have Been's
What former WWE Superstars do you think could have been in the main event scene during their time there, or were there but could have been there longer, if it hadn't been for creatives mistakes, or their own mistakes?

One name that pops into my mind is Elijah Burke. He's a solid worker in the ring, has the look and the mic skills, and his "Pope" gimmick could have really taken off if he had used it in the WWE. Unfortunately, now he's stuck in a clusterfuck-feud with Boring Joe in TNA.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:09 PM   #2
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Lex Luger fucked himself in WWF by saying he was going to win the WWF Championship months ahead of time.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:17 PM   #3
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Lex Luger fucked himself in WWF by saying he was going to win the WWF Championship months ahead of time.
Lex as a wrestler (back when that word was allowed to be used) was the drizzling shits!

But, he was always good with "ring psychology" in that he could work a crowd into a frenzy as a face AND make them despise him as a heel. Not everyone can do that.
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Oh I wasn't knocking his ability or anything. He just shot himself in the foot when he was the "next guy" to carry the company as WWF Champion.

I guess I was looking from the business side of it rather than if he was over or not.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:22 PM   #5
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:23 PM   #6
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Most (if not all) fucked it up themselves though.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:47 PM   #7
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Kerry Von Erich as Texas Tornado

unfortuantely Kerry was too fucked up by the time that he came to WWE he was essentially a Jobber to the Stars after his big build up and IC title win

Vince had originally wanted Kerry to be the face of the WWE before he landed Hogan

thankfully Vince did go with Hulk as Kerry was messed up during alot of his matches in the 80's and as were his brothers
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:57 PM   #8
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:40 PM   #9
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Christian back in 2005 when he was out-popping Batista (who was MASSIVELY over since his face turn against Evolution and World title victory over HHH in the Main Event at WrestleMania). The WWE could have avoided losing Christian to TNA and would by now already have another firmly established main eventer, instead of trying to establish him now in 2011.
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:53 PM   #10
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Old 04-19-2011, 10:55 PM   #11
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Owen, I wish he would have been pushed to face Shawn at The Royal Rumble in 98 instead of The Undertaker, the world of wrestling would be completely different.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:00 PM   #12
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Ken Doane had he gotten rid of his attitude and WWE didn't give him the name Dykstra because it was just plain lame. He had a lot of in ring talent and wasn't to bad on the mic either. I thought out of the Spirit Squad he would be the one to make it first but Nicky has kicked ass as Ziggler. Hope Doane watches Raw and realizes what he is missing and gets his shit togerher.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:24 PM   #13
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I thought Lance Cade had potential coming from shawns pedigree.
I wish i could say owen but i dont think vince would have ever put him over
is it too early to say jack swagger is a couldve been? even with the title he was hardly main eventing and dont see much happening for him in the future
lashley is a good one. and brian pillman
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:49 PM   #14
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Pillman's in ring skills weren't up to par with his WCW days by the time he was in WWE, I have been watching some of the matches and his character is unbelievable in the matches but his agility declined greatly, I feel like this is a reason he wasn't pushed too hard in WWE.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:16 AM   #15
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RVD being both the WWE mistake and later his mistake. The WWE refused to capitalize on his huge crowd reactions when he arrived during the Invasion storyline into something bigger and later him killing his push as champion due to drugs.

The Brian Kendrick. Maybe not an actual heavyweight champion but he was getting a nice push and did win the title for a few seconds but like Jeff Hardy and RVD, him not caring about the drug policy killed his push and job.

Mohammed Hassan due to creative making one of the biggest blunders during the last decade. The writers made the huge mistake of changing Hassan from someone who was upset how America was becoming hypocrites into a fanatic using terror-like actions for his own benefit. The change managed to take place at the worst time possible and UPN threatened the WWE to remove him from the show.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:29 AM   #16
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Ken Shamrock for me had it all, He had a great look, a great gimmick, and he worked a good match. His mic work was easily passable, the WWE could have done more with him.

Apart from that you need look no further than Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, Charlie Haas and Lance Storm.

How was Lance Storm never WWE Champ?
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:37 AM   #17
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Ken Shamrock for me had it all, He had a great look, a great gimmick, and he worked a good match. His mic work was easily passable, the WWE could have done more with him.

Apart from that you need look no further than Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, Charlie Haas and Lance Storm.

How was Lance Storm never WWE Champ?
How was Davey Boy never WWE Champ?

Lance Storm is a great wrestler but come on, he was pretty dull in WWE for the most part.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:38 AM   #18
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I wish i could say owen but i dont think vince would have ever put him over
I know that Owen is a sacred cow around here, but I agree with this 100%.

I'm not discrediting his talents or abilities, but I've said before that hindsight is 20/20 with him in the eyes of the 'E, the IWC, and fans in general. No matter how big he could have been, I think he was doomed to get the "Matt Hardy treatment"* had that zipline stunt gone off without a hitch. I mean, my God, he was in a costume switching gimmick with Jeff Jarrett to "fool" everyone into thinking neither of them were the Blue Blazer when he died. That's not exactly "he's getting a push soon" territory.

On topic: ... dammit. Meatball beat me to Hassan. While I was typing, no less.

Nathan Jones comes to mind, had he not been such a big pussy about the travel. I mean, right off the bat they give him association with Undertaker. UNDERTAKER! That should tell you the plans they had for this guy right there. Plus, he had an interesting take with the "big man with the addled mind" gimmick, coupled with the "Colossus of Boggo Road" badass prisoner type hype he got. (Loved when 'Taker was about to lead him to the ring for his "first match", and Nathan replied: "I already had it!", revealing a mess of furniture an bodies in a locker room.)

*in that he would have been true blue loyal company man for years and years, never jumped over to WCW, the real ECW, or even now TNA or ROH, and still never gotten the nod towards the main event that everyone seems to think he was due for
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My guess is Vince saw early glimpses of what would eventually be his downfall (the drinking and partying), and therefore perhaps didn't feel 100% comfortable putting the WWF Title on him. Nowadays, you don't necessarily HAVE to be the WWE Champion in order to be one of the faces of the company, but back then, the WWF Champion was THE face of the company (also the best paid), and the last thing Vince needed back then (coming off the 1992 Steroids trial), was his "top guy" to get into trouble, or prove himself to be unreliable.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:44 AM   #20
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The British Bulldog was a fantastic character but his in ring work was dreadful unless he had a Bret or an Owen or a Shawn carrying him.
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Old 04-20-2011, 01:58 AM   #21
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Lance Storm is a great wrestler but come on, he was pretty dull in WWE for the most part.
Do I really have to start the "play to his strengths" argument again?

They did nothing with the guy... you know they could have built something around at least that "HAT TRICK!" in WCW... or even the part of that gimmick where he "wanted competition" and was steamrolling jobbers and making them tap to a slick-ass rolling half crab... or at least kept him "uber pro Canadian" instead of "Un-American", as it were. They could have had him go up against Booker T for the WCW World title. Could have done better than shitty music and Heat duty. Or bumping him from every 'Mania he was scheduled to be in.

By the time JR was trying to get him over in the booth as being talented yet underrated, the damage was done. Couple that with having Austin come out and start that "Boring!" shit, and all the ensuing dumbass stunts to "connect with the crowd" a-la rehashing Al Snow and Steve Blackman and replacing them with Storm and Goldie and what do you expect?

So, the next step in this argument is when someone brings up Saturn and Moppy being stupid, but he got over from it. Think about this: if Saturn had never stiffed that kid in that match, he would have never been "punished" for it, and he would have been milling around without anything worthwhile to do. That circumstance created an opening that was likely put in place to humiliate the man (I mean the resulting "you're welcome"/Moppy storyline in addition to the beatdown from the APA), and instead people liked it.

People act like someone getting over is as easy as "Austin 3:16". Hell, that was even a happy accident that WWE took full advantage of... Austin was by and large digging at Jake Roberts to become a bigger heel, he didn't know he was coining one of the most profitable phrases in wrestling sports entertainment history. Imagine if they missed that boat?
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:19 AM   #23
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There are so many guys, and we discuss this quite a lot.

I'll go back to the year I first started watching...2001:

* Triple H could have been a mammoth face in 2001, if the WWE had let his much heated feud with Stone Cold Steve Austin pick up again after WrestleMania X-7. The Rock was leaving to do movies, and I remember Austin beating down Rock inside the Steel Cage on the post-Mania RAW, and then Triple H coming out with a sledgehammer or something to a MASSIVE pop. People wanted him to kill Austin! He had beaten Austin in 3 Stages of Hell at No Way Out, too -- he had claim to a title shot (but then, so did The Undertaker).

With Austin turning heel, The Rock leaving for a while, and Triple H re-affirming his heel status, the big three were essentially neutralised post-Mania X-7, and I feel that this decision might have ultimately been what killed the Attitude era. The Game didn't need to become a baby-kissing babyface, but him feeling betrayed by Vince and wanting to smash Austin's skull would have been enough.

* Booker T came into the company as a huge babyface. People were really excited to see these WCW guys try and fit into the WWE main event picture. But the WWE quickly turned Booker T heel. Sure, he was entertaining as a heel at times, but he was much better as a likable guy you wanted to see achieve successes. Everyone from WCW essentially being a bad dude was a big ball-dropping from the WWE. DDP is another guy that fits into this category.

* Rhyno was getting over huge in 2001, partially because he was Goring people left, right and centre -- but you also had Paul Heyman on commentary -- "GORE!!!!! GORE!!!!!! GORE!!!!!" His neck injury de-railed him, but I have a feeling he would have been HUGE in late 2001 if he hadn't of been hurt.

* Rob Van Dam was so massively over in 2001, too. Now, I was never the biggest fan myself, but he was so fucking over that the WWE felt the need to insert him into at least one WWE Title match on PPV that year. The excuses might have been that it was "too soon," but you also had the mammoth push of Brock Lesnar the following year.

That's just 2001. 2005 was another year for fumbled pushes, in my opinion, with Christian and Matt Hardy being the two noticeable ones. It's a shame what Hardy became, but you have Christian in 2011 still putting on stellar matches and getting good reactions, with an entirely different character. The man was not the wrong horse to back on. It's understandable that they didn't want to put the WWE Title on him right away, or derail Cena's momentum -- but to move him to SmackDown! in an attempt to cool him, rather than push him AWAY from their pet project? That was silly, in my opinion.
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Owen, I wish he would have been pushed to face Shawn at The Royal Rumble in 98 instead of The Undertaker, the world of wrestling would be completely different.
Thats a good point. I remember hearing that the casket match shawn had was a large part into fucking his back up so potentially if it was owen vs shawn you'd have had owen as a main event face and shawn may have never retired between 98 and 2003.
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Vince had originally wanted Kerry to be the face of the WWE before he landed Hogan
WOW. In all the years I've been watching wrasslin' and reading the dirt sheets, I never knew that (for real). It would have made sense, though, especially considering his previous success in WCCW. Kerry had a billion dollar look, plenty of charisma that HUGELY put him over with the crowds, and he was a hell of a worker in the ring, despite his average or below-average mic skills. It's just a shame that his life was such a train wreck, which, of course, can be attributed to that damn Von Erich/Adkisson gene. I'd say Kerry Von Erich was definitely one of wrestling's biggest tragedies, on so many levels.
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Hassan is the big one for me. But beyond him, what about Sean O'Haire? The "Devil's Advocate" vignettes were amazing and his first couple of weeks on tv with the gimmick (psyching Kendrick into getting himself destroyed) looked like they were building him up to something special.

Then they put him with Piper and his momentum ground to a screeching halt as he jobber out to Mr. America.
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Also, my fellow countryman Carlito. Dude won the US Title on his first match against JOHN CENA, of all people...started doing Carlito's Cabanna, won the IC Title, main evented a couple of RAW's...later on he, along with his brother Primo, became the first undisputed tag team champions...

...but his work ethic left alot to be desired, as well as his attitude backstage, and...he's no longer in WWE.
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This thread begins and ends with this man, who if it were not for a back injury could have been amazing.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:30 AM   #31
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One of the most over, and popular WCW stars just driven into the ground.

I loved his debut. Playing mind games with the taker, master of the mind games?

Then it hit the shits. Had they not squashed him out he was a legit main eventer.

He could have went over clean on the taker, by using his wife and shit against him. Build it up to a blowoff with the taker winning. But that would have made DDP a star again. Imagine that. Heel Main Event DDP in the WWE during that time period.
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Old 04-20-2011, 11:34 AM   #32
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Goldberg in the WWE.
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I agree on Storm. I love him. But hes not a main eventer. But he should have been a legit IC champ during the 02-04 years. Just like in WCW. A Great worker, let him heel it up as the annoying canadian. He would have been solid in that role, The IC champ during that time were guys like Benoit, Eddie, Edge, Christian, RVD, Jericho, Kane. He could have fit in that group. Or even over on Smackdown as US champ.
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I agree on Storm. I love him. But hes not a main eventer. But he should have been a legit IC champ during the 02-04 years. Just like in WCW. A Great worker, let him heel it up as the annoying canadian. He would have been solid in that role, The IC champ during that time were guys like Benoit, Eddie, Edge, Christian, RVD, Jericho, Kane. He could have fit in that group. Or even over on Smackdown as US champ.
Heck, if Orton has been a multi-time World Champion, being as bland and boring as he is, Lance Storm could've been as well...
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No. Just no. On repeat.
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...If Chris Benoit became World Champion, Lance Storm could've as well.
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Storm pretty much hit his ceiling.

Benoit run as champ caused him to murder his wife and kid. Hasn't enough blood been shed?
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Storm pretty much hit his ceiling.

Benoit run as champ caused him to murder his wife and kid. Hasn't enough blood been shed?
Many people say Owen Hart should've been WWF Champion (and i agree), but my question is...what is the difference between Owen Hart and Lance Storm? Why should Owen have become WWF Champion, but not Lance? They're the same, in my book.
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Owen Hart had personality falling out of his arse, his heel character was outstanding. Lance Storm actually had his personality removed during childhood.
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