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Old 09-29-2011, 04:56 PM   #1
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What's with all the Rey Mysterio hate?
I honestly don't understand why some fans really hate him for. Sure he appeals to kids, but the guy consistently put on great matches. What's there to hate?





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Old 09-29-2011, 04:58 PM   #2
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I'm sure I speak for some when I say that he hasn't been forgiven for his part in using Eddie Guerrero's death as a storyline, running into Wrestlemania. I personally let that go a long time ago but it did bother me at the time.
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Rey Mysterio is the man, as long as he doesn't have a microphone or a top tier championship.
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:58 PM   #4
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PS that Smackdown/Kofi gif is amazing.
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Old 09-29-2011, 04:59 PM   #5
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I'm sure I speak for some when I say that he hasn't been forgiven for his part in using Eddie Guerrero's death as a storyline, running into Wrestlemania. I personally let that go a long time ago but it did bother me at the time.
Is that even Rey's fault? I doubt he was on the book at the time. He was just a victim () of circumstance.
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PS that Smackdown/Kofi gif is amazing.
Pretty amazing how none of them are doing it right.







Anyways, Rey is Awesome when he isn't feuding with a big monster type in a ULTIMATE UNDERDOG angle.
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His matches with Kurt Angle and Dolph Ziggler at those Summerslams alone are enough for me to love Rey forever, and those aren't even his biggest moments.
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most consistent wrestler of the last 20 years not named Shawn Michaels. He's the man.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:08 PM   #9
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Is that even Rey's fault? I doubt he was on the book at the time. He was just a victim () of circumstance.
I think it's fair to say that Rey could have refused to go along with certain aspects and there was no need for the constant Eddie references week in, week out.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:11 PM   #11
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I think it's fair to say that Rey could have refused to go along with certain aspects and there was no need for the constant Eddie references week in, week out.
You wanted him to refuse to become World Heavyweight Champion? Yes, he COULD have done that, but it would have been silly. He could have done what Chavo did (refuse to work the Kerwin White gimmick any longer), but I don't think we have to compare the careers of Mysterio and Chavo right now.
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I never really disliked him until he won the whc. and from there it's just gotten worse. Seems like he's injured more than 'Taker these days.
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why would his amount of injuries have any bearing on your opinion of him?
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VINCE: Rey, I'm sorry about the loss of your close friend. We had big plans for him...so out of respect, and maybe to make some money for his family, we're going to go through with a storyline where you win the title in his honor. It will start with you winning the Royal Rumble.

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VINCE: .....OK. Unrelated question, do you know your size for an eagle suit off the top of your head?
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not to mention he was one of Eddie's legit best friends. Pretty sure he was in a better position to decide what was "too much" in regards to Eddie and his family as opposed to some people on the internet.
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Probably cause he's fucking up the Mexican stereotype.

What's with the high flying and shit instead of sleeping under a cactus and mownlawing?
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why would his amount of injuries have any bearing on your opinion of him?
It doesn't really. I think people have lost a lot of interest in him since he's constantly injured or having surgery.
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VINCE: Rey, I'm sorry about the loss of your close friend. We had big plans for him...so out of respect, and maybe to make some money for his family, we're going to go through with a storyline where you win the title in his honor. It will start with you winning the Royal Rumble.

REY: No way.

VINCE: .....OK. Unrelated question, do you know your size for an eagle suit off the top of your head?
As I said this is a reason why I suspect people didn't/don't like him. As I also said, I let this go a long time ago and realise that it was a pretty irrational thing to get bothered about.
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And I'm presenting the other side of it so that a discussion can be had.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:32 PM   #21
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I didn't like the way that he was booked as World champion, so I didn't look forward to seeing him at the time. Especially since he was getting squashed by the likes of Great Khali and Mark Henry on a weekly basis. That didn't make me like him any less as a performer, though. I know what he's capable of.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:44 PM   #22
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I just got bored with him I think, seeing the same matches over n over, though he can have brilliant matches still.
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Old 09-29-2011, 05:55 PM   #23
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And I'm presenting the other side of it so that a discussion can be had.
And I appreciate that. I think my main problem was not the concept of Rey winning the title in Eddie's honour but rather the way his death was used as a basis for a feud.

My biggest point was when Randy Orton told Rey that Eddie "is in hell" just because it seemed so unnecessary and went past the point of Rey winning as a tribute but was instead all that feud became about. Assuming, and I really hope they did, the WWE told Rey that Orton was going to say that, he would have been entirely within his right to say "that's taking things too far" and no one would have punished him.
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I hate him. He is too small to be believable. Every match is the same. He gets crushed then win with a cheap roll up or something. Lame. Stupid mexican midget.
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I don't see a problem with a heel being an asshole. It's not like he showed up at Eddie's funeral with a megaphone and stole the casket with Rey clinging to it whilst wearing leather pants.
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Rey in the PG era bothers me a bit, but he's just doing his job and trying to extend his career after years of high flying and taking risks... I am not a fan now... The EG story line after Eddie's death was a WWE thing not Rey's idea I am sure...

This match 1997 Halloween Havoc with Eddie is by far the best Rey match I have ever seen...
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You know something that a lot of people seem to overlook about the whole thing is that the crowds were still white hot for Eddie after he passed. They were chanting his name louder than just about anyone else STILL. Was all of that supposed to just be ignored? Orton making that comment was pretty standard heel stuff.
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Love Rey and even in the world title picture he was entertaining. You can say what you want but he still managed to be a more reputable champion then Del Rio or Christian (no hate on either of those guys from me I like them too, but seems the 'IWC'/TPWW thinks they are gold and have been used wrong time and time again). Given the right booking Rey could be a great champion and with his merchandise sales he'd be a good candidate. My opinion is that the Rey hate is a surrogate for the old Cena hate now that it's no longer 'cool'.
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I still don't care for swagger.
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After all this time? Amazing.
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You know something that a lot of people seem to overlook about the whole thing is that the crowds were still white hot for Eddie after he passed. They were chanting his name louder than just about anyone else STILL. Was all of that supposed to just be ignored? Orton making that comment was pretty standard heel stuff.
I would actually consider it anything but standard. Can't think of anyone who has ever made reference to a legitmately dead co-worker or peer other than Orton and Batista.

HBK or HHH never made reference to Brian Pillman to the Hart Foundation nor did anyone make mention of Owen to Bret thus making it very wide of the mark to suggest that it was "pretty standard heel stuff"

The crowds were still hot for Eddie as they were almost inevitably going to be until the Hall of Fame when Eddie was inducted, that point I don't argue. What was done with the reactions and how they were used for business can be questionned and were by many.
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I hate you and everything you represent. :foc:
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I would actually consider it anything but standard. Can't think of anyone who has ever made reference to a legitmately dead co-worker or peer other than Orton and Batista.

HBK or HHH never made reference to Brian Pillman to the Hart Foundation nor did anyone make mention of Owen to Bret thus making it very wide of the mark to suggest that it was "pretty standard heel stuff"

The crowds were still hot for Eddie as they were almost inevitably going to be until the Hall of Fame when Eddie was inducted, that point I don't argue. What was done with the reactions and how they were used for business can be questionned and were by many.
What I meant by "pretty standard stuff" was a heel saying something that the crowd would obviously react negatively to. In Heel 101, the first lesson they teach is that when the crowd is in support of someone (in this case, Eddie), you should run that person down to gain their disapproval (what Randy did). He was trying to strike a chord with his opponent and the fans, and I think that's pretty standard.
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I would actually consider it anything but standard. Can't think of anyone who has ever made reference to a legitmately dead co-worker or peer other than Orton and Batista.

HBK or HHH never made reference to Brian Pillman to the Hart Foundation nor did anyone make mention of Owen to Bret thus making it very wide of the mark to suggest that it was "pretty standard heel stuff"

The crowds were still hot for Eddie as they were almost inevitably going to be until the Hall of Fame when Eddie was inducted, that point I don't argue. What was done with the reactions and how they were used for business can be questionned and were by many.
You can't use Owen as an example for this as his death was extremely controversial and using it would have caused a shit storm that would not have been worth it.
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I've always been a big fan of Reys, and have always defended him when people (aka PROBABLY most of the people in this thread) were shitting on him.

Loved him in WCW. His matches in WWE are consistantly great, but sadly his booking isn't. I know he appears to kids etc, but he's been playing the same character for the last nine years! Kinda boring now y'know?
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Can professional wrestling really go 'too far'? I mean, really? It's professional fucking wrestling.

As far as business, didn't the proceeds from Eddie's merch all go to his family? If that's the case, keeping him relevant on TV could only help them, which I think is noble.
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As far as business, didn't the proceeds from Eddie's merch all go to his family? If that's the case, keeping him relevant on TV could only help them, which I think is noble.
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