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Old 11-07-2011, 03:31 PM   #1
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There's a TLDR version at the bottom.

It's clear that when it comes to opinions, even though there are some obvious trends on this board, there are a healthy amount of differences. Some of them come as a surprise to a lot of people. There were a lot of instances of this occurring in the Dolph Ziggler vs. The Miz thread. Enough that in the next round of Better Wrestler, people were still acknowledging the thought that maybe Ziggler should not have beaten The Miz.

It's easy for me to judge who's better, even if the decision was close. It's Dolph Ziggler. Why? Because I said so. That's a pretty stupid reason, right? Like most people, I chose the "short and sweet" approach. "So and so is better because of this and that." Then again, in order to truly explain why I voted the way I did, I would probably have to do a fair amount of typing. If I made such an assertion and truly explained myself to people who were wondering how The Miz could lose (he's better because they said so), if anyone bothered to reply, there would be a debate.

Sometimes this happens. Two or more people can have a healthy conversation, with opposing views, to at the very least, back up their claim and give weight and meaning to their opinion. Often times, this isn't going to happen. People will pick apart each other's posts, descend into useless drivel, and focus more on a poster rather than what they're saying or trying to say.

You might see something like this:

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Ziggler has something Barrett doesn't have, it's called charisma!
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You wouldn't know charisma if it BLEW A HUGE LOAD ALL OVER YOUR FACE, YOU MOTHER FUCKER, YOU!
Or maybe this:

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They could have done more when CM Punk had so much momentum.
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Just like the IWC to bitch about a main event push!
Point is, there are differences, but why? Everyone is entitled to their opinions. You're even entitled to opinions about opinions. People are often looking to share those opinions. You talk about wrestling on wrestling websites, right? Now, the angelic nature of human beings aside, sometimes it is just easier to call someone a moron. It represents a fundamental disagreement to such proportions that you have no choice but to call them stupid. The guy sitting at the other end might not be as stupid as you think. He just might have different criteria for forming his "unearthly" opinions or "bitching" about something.

Sadly, this doesn't really help defend against the deterioration of a perfectly debatable topic. Rather than fling poop at each other, it might help to know why we say the things we do and think what we think. It might also help not to be a complete Nazi about your own standards of wrestling, or the discussion thereof. I've been on both ends of the spectrum. And to be honest, I've realized that for the most point, I actually enjoy learning about the perceptions and experiences of other people more than I thought.

It's a lot more rewarding than shitting on a guy or arguing about something moronic and irrelevant. It's also much easier to get a healthy discussion going if you're not arguing with a bunch of people about who's stupid and who isn't. And every now and then, you're going to find yourself agreeing with people you usually don't.

Obviously, not everyone wants to sit there and write an essay about what they think, or why they think what someone said is complete bull shit. Like I said before, it's easier just to use "moron" or sarcasm. Sarcasm is fun. This is 2011, and Full House has been off the air for years. But for those of you who prefer to have a discussion absent of your standard bickering, or who happen to be in the "down swing" of manic-depressive behavior, do so in here.

I'm curious to see if this could work.

TLDR: Don't be a dick in this thread. If you feel you have something to contribute to a topic, or something to say; whether or not it is currently being discussed in another thread; and you want to do it without being completely derailed, do it in here. I would greatly appreciate it if a mod could find it in their HEART OF HEARTS to keep this thread "clean."





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Old 11-07-2011, 03:36 PM   #2
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The Miz is pretty good IMO. But he's no Bushwhacker Butch. He is a serious rassler.
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:39 PM   #3
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Thank you Shisen Kopf. It takes a brave man to step up to the plate like this and show everyone that cyber bullying is not cool. I agree that The Miz is an outstanding performer with a bright future.
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:44 PM   #4
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When I do auto correct for Dolph Ziggler my iPhone turns it into Dolly silver. That should be his next manager. Get some FCW skank and give her that gimmick.
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:47 PM   #5
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So what do you actually want to discuss in here?
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Old 11-07-2011, 03:56 PM   #6
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We're discussing not being a prick to each other you fuckin tard!
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:01 PM   #7
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See I thought the point was to discuss something without being pricks to each other not to have a discussion about discussing without being pricks to each other.

Of course, you'd have realised that if you weren't a moron.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:04 PM   #8
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Also, I totally thought this was gonna be a discussion about WWE's PG Rating.
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Get the fuck outta here! Anyway let's discuss rasslin. Woooo!!
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:20 PM   #11
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An example of WWE PG working?

Big Kev nearly kills Triple H with the Jacknife, if that move or other big bumps and head drops were overexposed right now the six replays on PPV wouldn't have meant anything.

The more WWE scales back in doses, the more impact when the mold is broken.

WWE PG isn't just for the good of kids, it's for the good of everyone who enjoys the business and want's it to evolve and succeed. The Attitude Era was a success because of the characters and their actions and words outside of the ring. WWE is trying to bring the focus back to the matches and titles, so that eventually a breakthrough character with shine through and break the mold.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:27 PM   #13
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An example of WWE PG working?

Big Kev nearly kills Triple H with the Jacknife, if that move or other big bumps and head drops were overexposed right now the six replays on PPV wouldn't have meant anything.

The more WWE scales back in doses, the more impact when the mold is broken.

WWE PG isn't just for the good of kids, it's for the good of everyone who enjoys the business and want's it to evolve and succeed. The Attitude Era was a success because of the characters and their actions and words outside of the ring. WWE is trying to bring the focus back to the matches and titles, so that eventually a breakthrough character with shine through and break the mold.
Methinks somebody didn't read the thread.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:30 PM   #14
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I have always thought that the WWE's "PG Era" would be beneficial. You know another thing I think about is, should we even considered to label this WWE era the "PG Era"? Why not "Universe Era"? Or "Social Media Era" lol
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:31 PM   #15
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That TLDR didn't explain the topic at all going by some of these replies.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:35 PM   #16
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To my understanding, RB is making a plea to the Wrestling Forum to treat one another with a bit more respect and stay "on topic" or at least argue the point that is made in any given post rather than resort to name calling.

The idea of this thread (I believe) is to discuss "something" [yet to be determined] in a civilised manner.

Of course, with such a misleading title, the discussion has turned to talking about WWE's PG Rating.
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I read the OP mostly and I still don't understand the topic. Are we trying to get non-shit-throwing discussions in this thread? In the forum in general? What does this have to do with PG?
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:38 PM   #18
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The thread is PG - as in no strong language (I guess) - not the topic of discussion.

We're waiting to hear from RB about what he wishes to discuss.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:39 PM   #19
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Or, we're to kinda subscribe to this new ideology of not being dicks in the wrestling forum here and then spread it throughout our posting. Maybe.
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Honestly, I think RB is just butthurt because a lot of people on the forum disagree with him and he can't let it go. He has to realize that he can voice his opinion, but especially on a forum like TPWW, if you go against certain mentalities you're going to get blasted. Take it, explain your viewpoint and move on if they resort to shit throwing. Shit throwing is apart of TPWW. Realistically, what RB wants would take a lot of moderation and pretty strict rules. And that's when the fun starts to deflate from the TPWW ExperienceTM.

There are plenty of people on the forum more than willing to (and do) have a relatively intelligent conversation.
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It made me think of WWE PG so I gave my opinion.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:14 PM   #31
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It made me think of WWE PG so I gave my opinion.
Now I may be wrong here, but that's not how a discussion works.
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Also, I totally thought this was gonna be a discussion about WWE's PG Rating.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:21 PM   #33
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:22 PM   #34
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An example of WWE PG working?

Big Kev nearly kills Triple H with the Jacknife, if that move or other big bumps and head drops were overexposed right now the six replays on PPV wouldn't have meant anything.

The more WWE scales back in doses, the more impact when the mold is broken.

WWE PG isn't just for the good of kids, it's for the good of everyone who enjoys the business and want's it to evolve and succeed. The Attitude Era was a success because of the characters and their actions and words outside of the ring. WWE is trying to bring the focus back to the matches and titles, so that eventually a breakthrough character with shine through and break the mold.
I just took this as a discussion.
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This thread is about anti-bullying. Where you can say and be anything you want without mean people coming along and judging you or your opinions. It doesn't matter what the topic is, because it's all about you.
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