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Old 11-08-2011, 09:00 PM   #1
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Intercontinental Championship

I was watching SmackDown with Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton. They stated that Rhodes wants to bring back the prestige of the Intercontinental title. Well that’s awesome, however, back when the title was prestigious, they had some of the top contenders going for the belt, and it meant that you were the #1 contender for the WWE title. Nowadays, it seems like nobody wants to go for the belt.

Rhodes is feuding with Orton, why not make matches for the title? Have Rhodes cheat to win or get intentionally disqualified to keep the belt. Orton going for the title would make it seem important, seeing as he isn’t in the World Heavyweight title hunt, as it would give the title some much needed star power if Orton at least had a match with it on the line. There are quite a few guys on SmackDown who should be wrestling Rhodes in matches to build the division.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:05 PM   #2
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I agree. I was thinking the same thing today myself!
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:14 PM   #3
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Instead of using Randy to make the title important, WWE will be scared that RANDY will lose his importance or seem like he's in the dog house/jobbing for an unimportant title.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:23 PM   #4
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That's just it... It would help bring the importance back to the belt... Orton's rep could do that as well as build Rhodes up to the next level...
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:32 PM   #5
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You rarely see top tier superstars who have reached the ultimate goals of winning the WWE/WHC go for IC or US titles. I'm up to the idea of it happening more. It would be great if they would involve the IC title in the mix with Orton and Rhodes.
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Old 11-08-2011, 09:48 PM   #6
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I still want Undertaker's match at the next Wrestlemania to be for the Intercontinental title, so he can finally finish his Triple Crown before retiring.
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Old 11-08-2011, 11:40 PM   #7
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I remember Ric Flair defending his Intercontinental Championship against Triple-H inside a steel cage match at Taboo Tuesday back in 2005. It was pretty rad.
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Also that time when Jeff Hardy defended his Intercontinental strap against then WWE Champion Randy Orton on an episode of RAW before their classic bout at the Royal Rumble.
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I still want Undertaker's match at the next Wrestlemania to be for the Intercontinental title, so he can finally finish his Triple Crown before retiring.
I agree. Undertaker came close to winning the Intercontinental title twice.

In May 1996 against Goldust in a casket match, when Mankind cost him the match.

In December 1997 against The Rock, when Kane interfered.

Maybe third time's the charm.
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This over and over again. I was just thinking out stupid it seemed that these two would have a pay-per-view match, with Orton going over, and its not even for the belt. It makes it seem less and less important.

Give a main guy the strap, and when he drops it to a mid card guy, there is the rub and there is a star.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:50 AM   #11
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Rhodes has done a great job bringing the prestige back to the belt as his goal but I think the problem is more of a lack of quality face wrestlers for both the IC and main event level.

I also think the WWE is focusing too much on Orton becoming the major star of the brand and probably view the Rhodes-Orton feud more as something for Orton to do while he waits for the Big Show v Henry feud to end.

Probably be a better choice for Rhodes to drop the IC title to Bryan as the start of his major push than have Orton who would either have a short reign or just go back to the main event once the current title feud is done.
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I pretty much agree with everything said so far. What's the point in having someone be a champion when they never defend the title and lose to people?
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They need to get some more midcarders ready to move up face Rhodes for the title. You can have rhodes win and retain but still build other people up
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the title means nothing since there are 2 heavy weight titles in the wwe.
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:27 AM   #15
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You rarely see top tier superstars who have reached the ultimate goals of winning the WWE/WHC go for IC or US titles. I'm up to the idea of it happening more. It would be great if they would involve the IC title in the mix with Orton and Rhodes.
Problem is, the end result of this fued sees Orton winning.

This isn't "current IC Champ beats legit Main Event guy", this is "Randy Orton beats Rhodes, becomes IC Champ".

It might make the belt look a little better but how does it make Cody look good?

Once the belt is on Orton how do you shift it back? Have a rematch that Cody wins? Well that wouldn't give you the end result that is required (Orton winning).

Do you have Orton drop back to Cody then have a the fued capped off by a non-title match? That makes the belt look worse.

I'm all for the belt being made to look good but it's not gonna happen in this Orton/Rhodes fued. The best you can hope for is that the title looks good because Cody looks good by "hanging" with Orton.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:25 AM   #16
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Not so long ago when MVP had the US Championship while on SD he rarely defended it as well and his reign lasted a long time I don't want to see this happen again. It's not as if the contenders aren't there right now there are at least three guys I can think of that would make great opponents for him right now in Ryder. Sin Cara, and even JoMo. Mind you only one of them is on SD but the brands seem to mean even less nowadays there are plenty of guys on the RAW side that are suitable enough to defeat Ziggler.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:08 PM   #17
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If they want to make the title important they need to stop just giving up on whoever wins the belt. Happens way too often.
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Whilst I agree with what people are saying about someone like Orton going for the belt, the IWC has been complaining about the belt having 'no prestiege' for the last ten years... never mind being held by Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, Dolph Ziggler, Jeff Hardy, John Morrison, Wade Barrett, Kofi Kingston, Rob Van Dam, Umaga...

No doubt having a top guy like Orton chase the belt will give it more 'star power', and certainly being left off of the last ten Wrestlemania's or whatever hasn't helped, but I think the 'prestiege' the belt use to have is more to do with a lot of us being young marks, and as we've gotten older we're seeing it for what it is, a second-tier title.

Hell, when I was 13, even winning the European Title would make you an instant superstar. I'm not saying the IC title was/is a joke, and I'm not saying they couldn't do more to make it seem more valuable, but to me, it's still as important a title today as it was 10/20 years ago.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:26 PM   #19
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Just seems like EVERY time someone new holds the belt, people are saying 'maybe they'll bring some prestiege back to the title'.
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And another thing to consider is that 10/20 years ago, WWE didn't have two world championships. So of course the Intercontinental Championship will have to step down in relevence.
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If he wants it to have prestige then he should be on Raw cuz nobody watches Smackdown.
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If he wants it to have prestige then he should be on Raw cuz nobody watches Smackdown.
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We need to start with the title becoming vacant.

Raw opens with a nice video package series tracing the lineage of the title - showing all the greats who had held it and have those greats talk about how it elevated them.Cut in scenes of memorable spots and iconic moments dealing with the title.

(well I'm sure HHH would rather open with the regular 15minutes of arguing)

Then is announced that on the next PPV will be a 4-way ladder match. Leading up to that will be qualifier matches on raw to determine the participants.

Before each match we have interviews the 2 wrestl...superstars. These will be the kind "the real sit down and talk it through" type interviews. the kind of interviews they used to build the Iron Man match between Hart and HBK. Each could almost be a small bio on each qualifier and why he needs to win the IC belt. These don't have to be long - they can be packaged into 2 minute segments. Each one played after the first and second ad break.

The whole build for this ppv ladder match is more akin to an athletic competition than a storyline that involves text messages and other such shit.

After the final qualifier match Pat Patterson walks to the ring with the IC title. The four participants are in the ring - A brawl breaks out. That takes us into the next ad break as the commentators really sell how badly these superstars want the title.

(then the usual main eventers close raw)

The Ladder match at the PPV should be the match of the night even if its on second to last. After the winner should be a heel who narrowly cheats his way to win (perhaps by outside interference). This would set up a babyface to chase for the title on raw.
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:18 AM   #24
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Cody's the best IC Champ since Ziggler. Fuck making the title vacant.
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cody rhodes was bland before his gimmick. They should give him the fucking Divas title.

Anyway if you had red what I wrote you would see that it makes the IC title seem sought after and not overshadowed by some faggy gimmick.
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It would be like if the UFC never aired any other title fights but the Heavyweight title because they felt that was the only title people really cared about.
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Yes. It says "Intercontinental Championship".

That doesn't explain what you're getting at with your last post.
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If WWE never aired any other title fights but the Heavyweight title because they felt that was the only title people really cared about it would be like if the UFC never aired any other title fights but the Heavyweight title because they felt that was the only title people really cared about.
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Goldust, who currently works behind the scenes as a producer and trainer for WWE, has begun campaigning on Twitter for a match against his brother Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania XXVIII.

He states, "With your voices heard to @WWE, goldust vs cody at wm28.....ic title versus career. For the haters can hope i lose to cody and retire, teamgoldie can hope for an ass whoopin for the ages and new ic champ."

Goldust continues, "Here's the deal.....the fire in me is too strong to lose to my move stealing lemmule of a brother....experience everytime.

"His ic title .....my career.....i would whoop him, take back My ic title and shatter all his dreams. Only teamgoldie can make this happen...u know how much it means to me."
I’d be all for that. It could be a good feud, and they could deliver in the ring too. They can go in so many directions with that program.
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I hear they had a great fued in VCW.

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I loved it when Triple H went for the IC title in 2001.
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