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Old 11-10-2011, 04:48 PM   #1
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Daniel Bryan losing at Mania Could be the best thing for his career
Daniel Bryan being the first person to lose a money in the bank cash in could possibly be great for him. The branching story lines (if WWE chooses to play its cards right) could make him a household name.

One scenario could be that he snaps and goes heel. this is the one that make the most sense to me. He could go ruthless heel and start ripping through the mid-card with what will be an epic beard by that time. and eventually making it back and having a reign of terror over the WWE.

Scenario two would see him just be a more serious character, an anti-face if you will, and just be like a Chris Benoit with a come in, kick ass, leave type of gimmick where he doesn't do a lot of talking, just wrestle and have the announcers play up his new found focus.

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Old 11-10-2011, 04:55 PM   #2
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Daniel Bryan will never be a household name.
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:56 PM   #3
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It could also lead to a smarktard murdering Vince.
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He could grow out his beard and refuse to shave it until he's World Champion.
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He could grow out his beard and refuse to shave it until he's World Champion.
He said in one of those WWE.com interviews that he will not shave until Wrestlemania.
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Daniel Bryan will never be a household name.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:04 PM   #10
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I wonder how many posts have been made in the history of TPWW suggesting that someone could get a main event push by snapping and going heel.

At least 3,000.
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I wonder how many posts have been made in the history of TPWW suggesting that someone could get a main event push by snapping and going heel.

At least 3,000.
Has it ever worked?
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:10 PM   #13
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Daniel Bryan losing a World Heavyweight Title match at Wrestlemania and becoming a heel who never rises above the midcard would be better for his career than winning the World Heavyweight Title at Wrestlemania?
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Winning the strap and having no one care id say is a major fail no matter what ppv it is. see Mr. Swagger
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:17 PM   #16
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Has it ever worked?
Well sure it's worked. But that's not the issue. The issue is that people seem to think that's what needs to be done with every single wrestler. And that's just simply not true.
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I'm sure Jack Swagger gets really depressed about winning the World Heavyweight Title when he remembers he could have spent those four months feuding with Santino and never appearing on PPV.
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Old 11-10-2011, 05:19 PM   #18
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Although I guess if the whole snap and go heel thing would get anyone over, it'd probably be Bryan.
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Well sure it's worked. But that's not the issue. The issue is that people seem to think that's what needs to be done with every single wrestler. And that's just simply not true.
I agree it doesnt need to be done to every wrestler but Danielson can play a good heel. And in this situation my point was that this would be a situation where you can logically make it work and get a good storyline. It just makes sense from where I sit.
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I'm sure Jack Swagger gets really depressed about winning the World Heavyweight Title when he remembers he could have spent those four months feuding with Santino and never appearing on PPV.
Or he could have been in a meaningful feud and not be a joke. I'd much rather that if I were him.

I'd trade that title reign for a great overall career any day.

I'm just saying look where he is now
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In my heart, I really want Bryan Danielson to win the World Heavyweight title at Wrestlemania.
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One scenario could be that he snaps and goes heel. this is the one that make the most sense to me. He could go ruthless heel and start ripping through the mid-card with what will be an epic beard by that time. and eventually making it back and having a reign of terror over the WWE.

Scenario two would see him just be a more serious character, an anti-face if you will, and just be like a Chris Benoit with a come in, kick ass, leave type of gimmick where he doesn't do a lot of talking, just wrestle and have the announcers play up his new found focus.

Congrats on making Danielson even more boring.

Also he doesnt look threatening enough to be a srs heel, at least with Benoit you could tell he was a legit psycho, nobody was rly shocked when he murdered his family cuz he looked the type innit.
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Congrats on making Danielson even more boring.

Also he doesnt look threatening enough to be a srs heel, at least with Benoit you could tell he was a legit psycho, nobody was rly shocked when he murdered his family cuz he looked the type innit.
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Swagger winning the world title didn't make him a jobber, bad booking did. It's unlikely that his booking would have been any better if he was never champion since he was fast tracked back to the midcard.

What you actually seem to be saying here is that Daniel Bryan being booked strongly would be the best thing for his career. Losing at Wrestlemania isn't really going to to anything for him if nobody cares if he wins or loses, he could lose to Trent Baretta on Smackdown then snap and it would have the exact same effect.
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Swagger winning the world title didn't make him a jobber, bad booking did. It's unlikely that his booking would have been any better if he was never champion since he was fast tracked back to the midcard.

What you actually seem to be saying here is that Daniel Bryan being booked strongly would be the best thing for his career. Losing at Wrestlemania isn't really going to to anything for him if nobody cares if he wins or loses, he could lose to Trent Baretta on Smackdown then snap and it would have the exact same effect.
I understand what you are saying, and agree. But my point is that he has the money in the bank case and I feel he will lose. So given that this is my prediction, and my want for Daniel Bryan to succeed, I was simply stating what i feel is the best story for the current tools i feel are at my disposal. Because out of Mania where everyone is watching build some interest in the guy.
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If they give him a good build up, develop his character and give people a reason to want to see his match or maybe even want him to win it then there's no reason to hold off giving him the belt. If you build him him and make him look like he can't get the job done you've practically turned him into Bobby Roode. If you don't build him up at all why is he in the match in the first place? Then we're just left with a midcard heel who somehow miraculously became a household name because he lost a match nobody gave a shit about.
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I thought Bobby Roode was the guy in TNA now. and i see where you are coming from
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If we want to fully apply a Bobby Roode push then Randy Orton beats Bryan at Mania, Orton loses the title to Sin Cara clean on Smackdown in under a minute with no build up, Bryan wins the title by knocking Sin Cara out with a trampoline the following week then defends it against John Morrison on the next PPV, which is headlined by HHH & Vince vs Kevin Nash & Johnny Ace.
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If we want to fully apply a Bobby Roode push then Randy Orton beats Bryan at Mania, Orton loses the title to Sin Cara clean on Smackdown in under a minute with no build up, Bryan wins the title by knocking Sin Cara out with a trampoline the following week then defends it against John Morrison on the next PPV, which is headlined by HHH & Vince vs Kevin Nash & Johnny Ace.
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Old 11-10-2011, 07:34 PM   #34
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If we want to fully apply a Bobby Roode push then Randy Orton beats Bryan at Mania, Orton loses the title to Sin Cara clean on Smackdown in under a minute with no build up, Bryan wins the title by knocking Sin Cara out with a trampoline the following week then defends it against John Morrison on the next PPV, which is headlined by HHH & Vince vs Kevin Nash & Johnny Ace.
Someone please book this
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:14 PM   #35
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If he's gonna snap and go heel, he can use the Stomps (where he pulls up the victim's arms while they're flat on the mat and stomps their head repeatedly) or the MMA Elbows as his finish. Both are fairly savage looking maneuvers.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:25 PM   #36
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I know this has already been touched upon in this thread, but is there anybody people wouldn't like if they snapped and became a badass heel? It seems to always be peoples answer to pushing someone.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:26 PM   #37
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Maybe Morrison? Cause carebears are possibly more badass than doing a cartwheel before punching somebody.
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Let Daniel Bryan cash his MITB and win at 'Mania. Give him the WHC, just to have someone who won a MITB match at 'Mania cash it in on Bryan.

The MITB means too much at the moment for it to be lost. This way Bryan gets his title, he doesn't leave 'Mania with it, and it sets up a nice triple threat match for Backlash.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:50 PM   #39
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I'd say have him lose at WM, somebody's gotta lose that MITB match. He's so young it won't kill him. Shawn didn't win at WM 11 and it totally worked. I think having Bryan slowly turn heel between now and WM would be good if he was going against Orton or Sheamus but if he goes up with Henry then keep him face obviously.
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Actually, considering what happens at Smackdown this week, I could see the start of a decent BD push.

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On Smackdown, Henry first tries to break Daniels' ankle with the chair, and after that fails, he gives him a couple of world's strongest slams. I could see them borrowing the DB vs Morishima angle from ROH, and basically have DB go on the war path after Henry because Henry tried to end his career. They have a couple matches where DB shows a lot more passion in the ring, a lot more anger and fire, and comes close to winning, but never does. Then they have a final fight where DB busts out his testicle curb stomp and just leaves Henry lying in agony, where the refs stop the match, so DB doesn't get the "big win" over Henry, but he clearly came out on top in the end.


That, or Henry will just crush DB several times in a row, and that'll be that.
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