What will be the thing to kill your every interest in wrestling, and what could bring you back?

**Damndirty** · 12-29-2011, 06:47 PM

I've seen it happen too often with people who used watch wrestling and were actually really into it. These same people, who were like me and would freak out if they missed a Raw or a Nitro, all of a sudden tell me they stopped watching, but never really explained why. I've seen this happen on a massive scale when Stone Cold disappeared (via storyline where Rikishi hit him with a car). Now, I used to come onto TPWW a decade ago to find info and rumors, and the ratings were said to actually be high during the Mcmahon/Helmsley era, though this era was a moment my own interest was beginning to leave (but this was not my hiatus period) and I couldn't find one person in my hometown who was the least bit interested in it. This was my time I felt like the lone fan, but I knew others had to be out there.
My hiatus period actually came when almost all the superstars I grew up watching were gone, and this was when John Cena was just starting to get popular, but he was not the reason I turned it off. Outside of the disappearance of the familiar superstars, it really didn't look like there was anything eventful they were leading up to with the new blood (that and I didn't sparingly have cable or satellite to watch it, but I was starting to lose interest before that). If I could name the one thing that brought me back, it was the fact that I found other die-hard fans to watch it with me. Now I ask you, what would kill your interest in wrestling and would bring you back (if you could be brought back)?

**MoFo** · 12-29-2011, 06:49 PM

Carry on having boring jobbers like Danielson in the main event while Ziggler is in shit against Mason Ryan and the like

**Corporate CockSnogger** · 12-29-2011, 06:55 PM

See me leave - Too much technical wrestling.

Bring me back - Tits 'n' arse.

**CSL** · 12-29-2011, 07:46 PM

it already happened and "I'm still here", nothing product wise tho

**Fox** · 12-29-2011, 07:49 PM

I've already kind of "left." Right now I work a job that doesn't allow me to watch RAW and SD on a weekly basis, but even if I wasn't working this job, I probably wouldn't watch anyway. The main reason was the lack of a continuous, interesting, all-encompassing storyline to roll things week by week. I was pulled in because of WCW vs. nWo and Austin vs. McMahon. The Evolution storyline was really the last time anything like this happened, and even that wasn't really "all-encompassing." I thought they were on the right track after the amazing Nexus invasion when they tore up the ring and beat the shit out of John Cena, but that fell apart very quickly. I thought we might be onto something again with the emergence of CM Punk this past summer, but he's been turned into just another face.

Basically it will take another new, engrossing, company-spanning storyline to bring me back in, and some interesting characters to carry it all. Cena turning heel might bring me back, but it depends on where they go with that.

**Providence Peep** · 12-29-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Iginfest

See me leave - Too much technical wrestling

I like to see WRESTLING in a wrestling match, but to each his own.

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Bring me back - Tits 'n' arse.

Don't you see enough of that on the Internet?

**Corporate CockSnogger** · 12-29-2011, 07:56 PM

I was mostly kidding.

**Damndirty** · 12-29-2011, 07:59 PM

Back a few years before my hiatus period, I was actually "recording" every PPV, Raw, Smackdown, and Heat. I stopped doing that when the shows were almost looking like repeats of what I had seen the week before, and spending money on VHS tapes was getting expensive to keep this going. The one tape I did treasure was the PPV where Owen Hart died, but I lent it to someone and never got it back. One thing about the Attitude era was that there were things on the PPVs that you wouldn't see on television, but these PG era PPVs are no different than the standard Raw and Smackdown, except that they are longer than the non-3 hour events.

**Providence Peep** · 12-29-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Iginfest

I was mostly kidding.

As was I

**Wishbone** · 12-30-2011, 03:21 AM

Get me to leave? Nothing short of RAW changing it's color to pink, and making a bunny suit clad Mason Ryan champion could do that at this point in time.

Bring me back? Well in the unlikely event I left I'd say CM Punk vs Steve Austin could do it, or Trish Stratus returning and winning the title then having a live sex celebration on the following RAW with Kelly Kelly.

**Juan** · 12-30-2011, 03:26 AM

I don't know

**SEXUAL VANILLA** · 12-30-2011, 03:28 AM

If they stopped showing wrestling at all and became a primarily entertainment company with promos and skits. But even then I might stay for some promos lol

make me come back? Daniel Bryan/Zack Ryder/Dolph Ziggler joining the KISS MY ASS CLUB or Daniel Bryan losing his title to Vince who takes off his pants and shats on him for the pinfall or Flair defeating Ryder for the US title simply by removing his dentures

**SEXUAL VANILLA** · 12-30-2011, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan

I don't know

Another great post

**James Steele** · 12-30-2011, 03:51 AM

Sexual Vanilla, you are a horrible poster and seem like a legitimately evil person with no soul. Juan and I have a well-known tendency to disagree, so I hope you find it disheartening that we both think you suck and hope you leave TPWW forever and go suck on some crack whore's tits for the rest of your life while trying to find another cock to suck to buy some black tar heroin. You are a worthless fucking piece of shit.

**JKWJRMON** · 12-30-2011, 12:53 PM

I think the issue is that the big superstars are gone. Back in 98, you had nWo/WCW, WWF Attitude area where our favorites from the 80s still had something to give. Now those guys are broken down still trying to perform and it looks pathetic. Shit through that WCW found gold when Goldberg arrived.

Today I think that the Rock could bring sothing to the table, but the fucking guy is in movies and just comes as he pleases. He needs to com back, act like the asshole he can, clean house and be the #1 guy, and let the superstars now build up.

**JKWJRMON** · 12-30-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fox

I've already kind of "left." Right now I work a job that doesn't allow me to watch RAW and SD on a weekly basis, but even if I wasn't working this job, I probably wouldn't watch anyway. The main reason was the lack of a continuous, interesting, all-encompassing storyline to roll things week by week. I was pulled in because of WCW vs. nWo and Austin vs. McMahon. The Evolution storyline was really the last time anything like this happened, and even that wasn't really "all-encompassing." I thought they were on the right track after the amazing Nexus invasion when they tore up the ring and beat the shit out of John Cena, but that fell apart very quickly. I thought we might be onto something again with the emergence of CM Punk this past summer, but he's been turned into just another face.

Basically it will take another new, engrossing, company-spanning storyline to bring me back in, and some interesting characters to carry it all. Cena turning heel might bring me back, but it depends on where they go with that.

I agree completely, The Nexus thing could have fucking killed. Also HHH replacing Vince. They do it and fuck 2 weeks later, the roster walks out, and fucking boring ass Johnny Ace is there. They need to make Foley GM, or bring SCSA as GM.

**Iop** · 12-30-2011, 01:17 PM

David Arquette coming to the WWE, winning the WHC and WWE titles in double swerves and becoming "majority stock holder", meaning he gets to name his opponents, which ends up with Arquette fighting jobbers every week.

**Captain of Fun** · 12-30-2011, 01:27 PM

Dragons could bring me back.

**Shadrick** · 12-30-2011, 04:18 PM

I left during the McMahon Helmsley Era, and tuned out completely right after Hunter won the undisputed title at mania. I came back in 2009 because of Randy Orton being an awesome heel.

**SlickyTrickyDamon** · 12-30-2011, 04:36 PM

Probably a hot girlfriend saying not to watch it anymore or she'll with-hold sex. Coming back would be if the relationship ended.

**Ermaximus** · 12-30-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon

Probably a hot girlfriend saying not to watch it anymore or she'll with-hold sex. Coming back would be if the relationship ended.

You'd be suprised how easy it is to sway the oppiste sex into liking wrestling. I got my gf hooked on it without really trying that hard.

What would drive me away=Batista and Batista Jr. become the champs of both shows as well as the tag team champs, US, and IC champs.

Bring me back=A new aged 3rd generation stable consisting of Henning, Rhodes, Dibiase, Rotunda, Steamboat, and Tamina just wrecking havoc on everyone.

**CSL** · 12-30-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon

Probably a hot girlfriend saying not to watch it anymore or she'll with-hold sex. Coming back would be if the relationship ended.

fuck that noise

**Rock Bottom** · 12-31-2011, 06:36 AM

Godfather's return and title run would both bring me back and kill my interest in wrestling.

**Logan** · 12-31-2011, 11:56 AM

For me, I was leaving after the attitude era ended, and what nearly killed it for me was how the wcw/ecw invasion angle ended.

I compulsively watched since then for Michaels, Batista, and Taker.

Now that pretty much all 3 are gone (taker seemingly making only WM appearances now doesnt count), I no longer watch, though I DO read up from tpww.

As "decent" as TNA is (and to many tpww people thats being too generous), I only compulsively watch that for Sting, and havent watched since I think 2 ppvs ago, or when the Hogan/sting match happened where Hogan turned face yet again.

Unless they have another attitude ish era again (which I think was a 1 time thing, since I think its been clearly stated that Vinces vision has ALWAYS been a PG feel for the company), then I am done with it, from a watching standpoint.

**Damndirty** · 12-31-2011, 01:00 PM

Now what would bring my interest back in the way it was when I first started watching.... hmmm, and may bring a whole new generation of fans like that time that drew in the bulk of today..... hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Two matching federations going to war with each other. WWE can keep doing what it's doing, and TNA can definitely improve. TNA can redeem itself the moment it stops the instant push of WWE midcarders and WCW throwbacks (though Sting's still got it), because I am sure people are sick of it.

It needs to push their originals, like Robert Roode (which they are finally doing and doing well), Crimson, Samoa Joe, and Abyss. They had something going with a heel Jeff Hardy, which was a good move on the whole Immortal thing, and probably the only time pushing an ex-WWE guy actually worked well, but kiss that goodbye! New types of matches would greatly help, and I mean matches on par with Hell in a Cell and the Time Bomb Deathmatch.

They also need to be even more edgier and more controversial and do things not even old school ECW wouldn't touch. There is alot of room for it on the network they're on, and with less than half the ratings of WWE, can they afford not to? For that, Paul Heyman can fix things up if he and Brock get involved with TNA, which would also be an exception to ex-WWE. Perhaps the marijuana-indulging main eventer gimmick I mentioned in my last thread may come in handy at that time for the right person (perhaps this may be the thing for Crimson). Anything they can't be showing on television because of the controversy involved would greatly help a starving federation. They have to get people talking and watching.

One federation burying the other deep without even giving the other a chance (though it's probably the buried federation's fault all on its own) would a pretty stupid move, because the head-to-head dispute will open room for the controversy that draws people. Without the controversy, both companies will die, swiftly or slowly, and become a distant memory. Before people tell me,"WWE won't die because it's making too much money!" I'll tell you that pro-wrestling altogether almost vanished from the Earth many times before, and many many MANY federations are no longer with us simply for the fact that nobody was buying the trend anymore, so in short, no sport is immortal!

**Heisenberg** · 12-31-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain of Fun

Dragons could bring me back.

**Xero** · 12-31-2011, 01:47 PM

**Darkone** · 01-01-2012, 01:43 AM

Though people will mock me for this, the thing that sent me packing for a long time was the decline of CZW. After ECW died, this was the underground FED that I loved. Say what you will, but Zandig and co. ruled. Add in all the scum baggery of IWA MS and you had a perfect storm.

Say what you will, but while there was garbage wrestling there was still awesome pure wrestling to. Even up to the Chris Hero vs. Eddie Kingston feud.

Another thing that kept me in was the old CZWFANS fourms. It was much smaller than the community here, and you even, like me a lurker, could end up following less people at a better rate.

The thing that has got me back, re watching old school stuff. When Cena was a rapper, he was actually very good, both on mic, and in the ring. Look at his old school first run matches against Kurt Angle, and others. Yes he is just an annoyance now, but he grew from something.

The thing that I would like on both Indie and WWE scales is a return to old school long builds and storylines. When Hogan met Andre at WM3 it was epic. Terry Funk VS. Sabu Born to be Wired was epic, and Zandig vs. Wifebeater Night of Infamify was epic. The last real epice matches in WWE have been Taker Vs. DX (HHH or HBK pick a year)

To me the only thing thats keeps me going is rewatching old shit.

And I still hate that FF-X2 commerical.

**Aguakate** · 01-01-2012, 03:21 AM

You KNOW some people will be "turned off" when they don't see Brock Lesnar come out on Monday, and then when they see he's not Undertaker's WM opponent.

They have NO REASON to believe any of this will happen, but...they'll still be disappointed.

**Damndirty** · 01-01-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aguakate

You KNOW some people will be "turned off" when they don't see Brock Lesnar come out on Monday, and then when they see he's not Undertaker's WM opponent.

They have NO REASON to believe any of this will happen, but...they'll still be disappointed.

LOL!!! That's when we come onto TPWW to see people bitch about it and say they'll never watch it again, but we also know half of them are lying. The other half... WWE must take heed! Lol!

12-31-2011, 01:00 PM	#25
Damndirty Posts: 1,882	Now what would bring my interest back in the way it was when I first started watching.... hmmm, and may bring a whole new generation of fans like that time that drew in the bulk of today..... hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Two matching federations going to war with each other. WWE can keep doing what it's doing, and TNA can definitely improve. TNA can redeem itself the moment it stops the instant push of WWE midcarders and WCW throwbacks (though Sting's still got it), because I am sure people are sick of it. It needs to push their originals, like Robert Roode (which they are finally doing and doing well), Crimson, Samoa Joe, and Abyss. They had something going with a heel Jeff Hardy, which was a good move on the whole Immortal thing, and probably the only time pushing an ex-WWE guy actually worked well, but kiss that goodbye! New types of matches would greatly help, and I mean matches on par with Hell in a Cell and the Time Bomb Deathmatch. They also need to be even more edgier and more controversial and do things not even old school ECW wouldn't touch. There is alot of room for it on the network they're on, and with less than half the ratings of WWE, can they afford not to? For that, Paul Heyman can fix things up if he and Brock get involved with TNA, which would also be an exception to ex-WWE. Perhaps the marijuana-indulging main eventer gimmick I mentioned in my last thread may come in handy at that time for the right person (perhaps this may be the thing for Crimson). Anything they can't be showing on television because of the controversy involved would greatly help a starving federation. They have to get people talking and watching. One federation burying the other deep without even giving the other a chance (though it's probably the buried federation's fault all on its own) would a pretty stupid move, because the head-to-head dispute will open room for the controversy that draws people. Without the controversy, both companies will die, swiftly or slowly, and become a distant memory. Before people tell me,"WWE won't die because it's making too much money!" I'll tell you that pro-wrestling altogether almost vanished from the Earth many times before, and many many MANY federations are no longer with us simply for the fact that nobody was buying the trend anymore, so in short, no sport is immortal! Last edited by Damndirty; 12-31-2011 at 02:39 PM.

12-29-2011, 06:47 PM	#1
Damndirty Posts: 1,882	What will be the thing to kill your every interest in wrestling, and what could bring you back? I've seen it happen too often with people who used watch wrestling and were actually really into it. These same people, who were like me and would freak out if they missed a Raw or a Nitro, all of a sudden tell me they stopped watching, but never really explained why. I've seen this happen on a massive scale when Stone Cold disappeared (via storyline where Rikishi hit him with a car). Now, I used to come onto TPWW a decade ago to find info and rumors, and the ratings were said to actually be high during the Mcmahon/Helmsley era, though this era was a moment my own interest was beginning to leave (but this was not my hiatus period) and I couldn't find one person in my hometown who was the least bit interested in it. This was my time I felt like the lone fan, but I knew others had to be out there. My hiatus period actually came when almost all the superstars I grew up watching were gone, and this was when John Cena was just starting to get popular, but he was not the reason I turned it off. Outside of the disappearance of the familiar superstars, it really didn't look like there was anything eventful they were leading up to with the new blood (that and I didn't sparingly have cable or satellite to watch it, but I was starting to lose interest before that). If I could name the one thing that brought me back, it was the fact that I found other die-hard fans to watch it with me. Now I ask you, what would kill your interest in wrestling and would bring you back (if you could be brought back)?

12-29-2011, 06:49 PM	#2
MoFo Narc stole my star Posts: 6,110	Carry on having boring jobbers like Danielson in the main event while Ziggler is in shit against Mason Ryan and the like

12-29-2011, 06:55 PM	#3
Corporate CockSnogger Posts: 24,441	See me leave - Too much technical wrestling. Bring me back - Tits 'n' arse.

12-29-2011, 07:46 PM	#4
CSL Over Like Rover Posts: 38,444	it already happened and "I'm still here", nothing product wise tho

12-29-2011, 07:49 PM	#5
Fox "Ask him!" Posts: 10,075	I've already kind of "left." Right now I work a job that doesn't allow me to watch RAW and SD on a weekly basis, but even if I wasn't working this job, I probably wouldn't watch anyway. The main reason was the lack of a continuous, interesting, all-encompassing storyline to roll things week by week. I was pulled in because of WCW vs. nWo and Austin vs. McMahon. The Evolution storyline was really the last time anything like this happened, and even that wasn't really "all-encompassing." I thought they were on the right track after the amazing Nexus invasion when they tore up the ring and beat the shit out of John Cena, but that fell apart very quickly. I thought we might be onto something again with the emergence of CM Punk this past summer, but he's been turned into just another face. Basically it will take another new, engrossing, company-spanning storyline to bring me back in, and some interesting characters to carry it all. Cena turning heel might bring me back, but it depends on where they go with that.

12-29-2011, 07:56 PM	#7
Corporate CockSnogger Posts: 24,441	I was mostly kidding.

12-29-2011, 07:59 PM	#8
Damndirty Posts: 1,882	Back a few years before my hiatus period, I was actually "recording" every PPV, Raw, Smackdown, and Heat. I stopped doing that when the shows were almost looking like repeats of what I had seen the week before, and spending money on VHS tapes was getting expensive to keep this going. The one tape I did treasure was the PPV where Owen Hart died, but I lent it to someone and never got it back. One thing about the Attitude era was that there were things on the PPVs that you wouldn't see on television, but these PG era PPVs are no different than the standard Raw and Smackdown, except that they are longer than the non-3 hour events.

12-30-2011, 03:21 AM	#10
Wishbone I'm a loner, Dottie... Posts: 3,069	Get me to leave? Nothing short of RAW changing it's color to pink, and making a bunny suit clad Mason Ryan champion could do that at this point in time. Bring me back? Well in the unlikely event I left I'd say CM Punk vs Steve Austin could do it, or Trish Stratus returning and winning the title then having a live sex celebration on the following RAW with Kelly Kelly.

12-30-2011, 03:26 AM	#11
Juan Doin' It Right Posts: 35,461	I don't know

12-30-2011, 03:28 AM	#12
SEXUAL VANILLA Member Posts: 241	If they stopped showing wrestling at all and became a primarily entertainment company with promos and skits. But even then I might stay for some promos lol make me come back? Daniel Bryan/Zack Ryder/Dolph Ziggler joining the KISS MY ASS CLUB or Daniel Bryan losing his title to Vince who takes off his pants and shats on him for the pinfall or Flair defeating Ryder for the US title simply by removing his dentures

12-30-2011, 03:51 AM	#14
James Steele TPWW's HHH Mark Since '04 Posts: 29,886	Sexual Vanilla, you are a horrible poster and seem like a legitimately evil person with no soul. Juan and I have a well-known tendency to disagree, so I hope you find it disheartening that we both think you suck and hope you leave TPWW forever and go suck on some crack whore's tits for the rest of your life while trying to find another cock to suck to buy some black tar heroin. You are a worthless fucking piece of shit.

12-30-2011, 12:53 PM	#15
JKWJRMON Posts: 152	I think the issue is that the big superstars are gone. Back in 98, you had nWo/WCW, WWF Attitude area where our favorites from the 80s still had something to give. Now those guys are broken down still trying to perform and it looks pathetic. Shit through that WCW found gold when Goldberg arrived. Today I think that the Rock could bring sothing to the table, but the fucking guy is in movies and just comes as he pleases. He needs to com back, act like the asshole he can, clean house and be the #1 guy, and let the superstars now build up.

12-30-2011, 01:17 PM	#17
Iop Posts: 1,487	David Arquette coming to the WWE, winning the WHC and WWE titles in double swerves and becoming "majority stock holder", meaning he gets to name his opponents, which ends up with Arquette fighting jobbers every week.

12-30-2011, 01:27 PM	#18
Captain of Fun Member Posts: 1,467	Dragons could bring me back.

12-30-2011, 04:18 PM	#19
Shadrick The black Corey Graves Posts: 3,602	I left during the McMahon Helmsley Era, and tuned out completely right after Hunter won the undisputed title at mania. I came back in 2009 because of Randy Orton being an awesome heel.

12-30-2011, 04:36 PM	#20
SlickyTrickyDamon Quark is Less Impressed. Posts: 38,371	Probably a hot girlfriend saying not to watch it anymore or she'll with-hold sex. Coming back would be if the relationship ended.

12-31-2011, 06:36 AM	#23
Rock Bottom Ball So Hard University Posts: 8,450	Godfather's return and title run would both bring me back and kill my interest in wrestling.

12-31-2011, 11:56 AM	#24
Logan quintessentially square Posts: 145	For me, I was leaving after the attitude era ended, and what nearly killed it for me was how the wcw/ecw invasion angle ended. I compulsively watched since then for Michaels, Batista, and Taker. Now that pretty much all 3 are gone (taker seemingly making only WM appearances now doesnt count), I no longer watch, though I DO read up from tpww. As "decent" as TNA is (and to many tpww people thats being too generous), I only compulsively watch that for Sting, and havent watched since I think 2 ppvs ago, or when the Hogan/sting match happened where Hogan turned face yet again. Unless they have another attitude ish era again (which I think was a 1 time thing, since I think its been clearly stated that Vinces vision has ALWAYS been a PG feel for the company), then I am done with it, from a watching standpoint.

01-01-2012, 01:43 AM	#28
Darkone Posts: 238	Though people will mock me for this, the thing that sent me packing for a long time was the decline of CZW. After ECW died, this was the underground FED that I loved. Say what you will, but Zandig and co. ruled. Add in all the scum baggery of IWA MS and you had a perfect storm. Say what you will, but while there was garbage wrestling there was still awesome pure wrestling to. Even up to the Chris Hero vs. Eddie Kingston feud. Another thing that kept me in was the old CZWFANS fourms. It was much smaller than the community here, and you even, like me a lurker, could end up following less people at a better rate. The thing that has got me back, re watching old school stuff. When Cena was a rapper, he was actually very good, both on mic, and in the ring. Look at his old school first run matches against Kurt Angle, and others. Yes he is just an annoyance now, but he grew from something. The thing that I would like on both Indie and WWE scales is a return to old school long builds and storylines. When Hogan met Andre at WM3 it was epic. Terry Funk VS. Sabu Born to be Wired was epic, and Zandig vs. Wifebeater Night of Infamify was epic. The last real epice matches in WWE have been Taker Vs. DX (HHH or HBK pick a year) To me the only thing thats keeps me going is rewatching old shit. And I still hate that FF-X2 commerical.

01-01-2012, 03:21 AM	#29
Aguakate Posts: 6,350	You KNOW some people will be "turned off" when they don't see Brock Lesnar come out on Monday, and then when they see he's not Undertaker's WM opponent. They have NO REASON to believe any of this will happen, but...they'll still be disappointed.