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Old 02-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #1
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Are they having one this year?

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Old 02-07-2012, 07:57 PM   #2
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I haven't heard anything about it yet, but it seems like a good fit for Wade Barrett. Maybe even Cody Rhodes. As long as they don't incorporate the actual monarch aspect into their gimmicks.
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If it isn't a 32-Man or 64-man tournament to make it seem more important, I don't care......8-Man isn't enough.....
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MITB does the same job, and is more exciting.

So probs nah.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:42 PM   #5
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I haven't heard anything about it yet, but it seems like a good fit for Wade Barrett. Maybe even Cody Rhodes. As long as they don't incorporate the actual monarch aspect into their gimmicks.
Or at least if they're going to do that don't make it look like they got their stuff from the dollar store.
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At very least.
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I agree with 32 man tourney.
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If it isn't a 32-Man or 64-man tournament to make it seem more important, I don't care......8-Man isn't enough.....
Having a 32 or 64 man tournament presents the event as if there are actually that many people who are potentially worthy of being King of the Ring. A smaller tournament adds an air of prestige to even being involved. Any more than 16 is too much, I think.
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At very least.
Felt so bad for Sheamus when he was wearing that king nonsense. Every time he came out wearing that get up I always cracked up. He just looked absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:43 PM   #11
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Having a 32 or 64 man tournament presents the event as if there are actually that many people who are potentially worthy of being King of the Ring. A smaller tournament adds an air of prestige to even being involved. Any more than 16 is too much, I think.
You could always set it up as three "qualifying matches" to advance. Plus, if you did it in the spring, you could parallel the NCAA basketball tournament's upsets and give somebody like a Trent Barreta or Yoshi Tatsu a "Cinderella story" run to the Sweet 16.
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Wouldn't it fit Daniel Bryan well if he won and then he'd be wearing the crown all cocky with his YES YES schtick.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:17 AM   #13
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MITB does the same job, and is more exciting.

So probs nah.
I couldn't disagree more. MITB feels like a "wildcard" event. King of the Ring is a slow journey that builds up to a major push.

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Having a 32 or 64 man tournament presents the event as if there are actually that many people who are potentially worthy of being King of the Ring. A smaller tournament adds an air of prestige to even being involved. Any more than 16 is too much, I think.
I like the idea of a big tourney though, it gives them the opportunity to give a rub to some of the lower and mid-card with matches that actually matter.

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You could always set it up as three "qualifying matches" to advance. Plus, if you did it in the spring, you could parallel the NCAA basketball tournament's upsets and give somebody like a Trent Barreta or Yoshi Tatsu a "Cinderella story" run to the Sweet 16.
The Cinderella Story here would be fantastic. Have they ever done it before? I can't remember.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:07 AM   #14
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Savio Vega went to the finals once. That's about as Cinderella as it's gotten, I think. Who the fuck really wants to see Trent Baretta knocking people off, though? There's a way to push somebody, and the tournament as it stands does not have the prestige to do it.
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:31 AM   #15
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Hmmm...what about a Zack Ryder win?
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:48 AM   #16
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:05 PM   #17
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If they did do one, it seems like something they'd give to Wade Barrett.

Seems like a heel always wins it though.

I vote for "King Funkasaurus".
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:13 PM   #18
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They seem to be skipping years. 2008, 2010...if they're doing it now, it might be a good idea to go with an underdog winning it all.
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Cena wins.
This! Only after taking each of the other 7 competitors finishes and beating them in a 7 on 1 handicap King of the Ring Final.
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Unfortunately yes. I also remember Ken Shamrock won that shit too didn't he? 1998 I believe.
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While Mabel was a shit wrestler, him winning King of the Ring saved the wrestling world from having to hear him, Mo, and Oscar perform their even worse "rap music". I would rather see Mabel's fat ass with a crown on his head than challenging P.N. News for who the shittiest rapper was.
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While Mabel was a shit wrestler, him winning King of the Ring saved the wrestling world from having to hear him, Mo, and Oscar perform their even worse "rap music". I would rather see Mabel's fat ass with a crown on his head than challenging P.N. News for who the shittiest rapper was.
That was by far the worst King of the Ring tournament. All the matches were lame, HBK got eliminated due to bullshit, and Mable won. Then he goes on to Main Event Summerslam 95 which was a good PPV except Diesel/Mable.

Billy Gunn wasn't as glaringly bad til a few months later when they aborted his push. He has a good program with the Rock and then that amazingly hot match with Triple H for the title on Raw. That was it though.

Shamrock also sucked as King, but that PPV was fantastic.

My favorite King's were Bret, Owent, Austin, and Triple H. I really liked the 97 tournament (though I haven't seen it since '97).
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That was by far the worst King of the Ring tournament. All the matches were lame, HBK got eliminated due to bullshit, and Mable won. Then he goes on to Main Event Summerslam 95 which was a good PPV except Diesel/Mable.

Billy Gunn wasn't as glaringly bad til a few months later when they aborted his push. He has a good program with the Rock and then that amazingly hot match with Triple H for the title on Raw. That was it though.

Shamrock also sucked as King, but that PPV was fantastic.

My favorite King's were Bret, Owent, Austin, and Triple H. I really liked the 97 tournament (though I haven't seen it since '97).
I think my favorite KotR was Bret's only because I remember being legit surprised when Lawler came out and whooped Bret's ass over being declared the King.
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Agree to disagree.....having to win 5 matches to win the tournament will make it seem more important..... especially if some lesser known guys pull off some upsets early on....an easy way to push a guy like Tyson Kidd, Trent Barreta or anyone else in the lower card to midcard status by simply gaining an upset or fluke win via shenanigans on an established star.....
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Would prefer a bigger tournament too, but with the final 8 doing the rest of the tournament in one night. Lost a lot of excitement for me when it was over multiple shows.
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Old 02-08-2012, 06:46 PM   #29
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do they have the roster depth for a 32 man tournament without making it overkill and unbelievable?
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Old 02-08-2012, 10:50 PM   #31
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:34 PM   #32
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I think the 16 man tournament would suffice, that way if you did an underdog angle say with Trent Barretta he could get the win on Smackdown or Raw over someone like Cody or Wade Barrett and be kinda big shock, going into the PPV it would be a wild card to see if he could do it again.
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Really hate having draws and no contests to make the tournament fit on one PPV though.
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do they have the roster depth for a 32 man tournament without making it overkill and unbelievable?
Well we had 30 people in The Royal Rumble and about 10 were jokes or Legends, and with the amount of people bitching about other guys not used in the match I'd say we could easily fill 32 spots for a tournament.
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Drew McIntyre vs. The Great Khali
Alex Riley vs. Hunico
Curt Hawkins vs. Kofi Kingston
David Otunga vs. Mason Ryan
Dolph Ziggler vs. Ezekiel Jackson
Epico vs. R-Truth
Jack Swagger vs. Jey Uso
JTG vs. Justin Gabriel
Primo vs. Ted DiBiase
Tyler Reks vs. Santino
Cody Rhodes vs. Booker T
Trent Baretta vs. Jinder Mahal
Tyson Kidd vs. Jimmy Uso
Wade Barrett vs. Yoshi Tatsu
Jerry Lawler vs. The Miz
William Regal vs. Heath Slater

I think that would be a fun tournament without even using Cena, Kane, The Miz, Daniel Bryan, The Big Show, Sheamus, Orton... ya know, the real solid main eventers that really don't need to be taking losses just to get knocked out of the tournament and don't need to win either.
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But...you booked The Miz there.

As far as an underdog taking the tournament down, I'm not going to argue that it might be fun to watch, but I highly doubt that winning the tournament would automatically put the winner over. The tournament simply lacks the prestige in which to do that, and really, there isn't a single event on the calender that DOES hold that prestige. Overness is a slow build, and anything otherwise will seem forced.
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My mistake. Apparently I subconsciously put him on a higher level than he is. I don't think he's at that point where he's too big to compete in the tournament (Cena, Punk, Orton) or too fragile to suffer a loss right now (Kane, Brodus) or deeply ingrained in a main event title picture (Punk, Bryan, Sheamus).

He'd be fine as a winner and it would be acceptable for him to lose at some point.
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I think that you're right that the King of the Ring no longer has the name-prestige to put someone over, that said, the event itself is what does it. If they book it right and the opportunity to shine is there, the potential for greatness is great.

Back when I was still watching TNA they had a big tournament for the NWA World Title which Rhyno won after already competing in a Monster's Ball Match. Obviously Rhyno wasn't exactly an underdog or an unknown, but people were really into the story.
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And, while it's a cheap tactic, they can always use the "This tournament has been won by guys like Triple H, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Edge, Brock Lesnar, Randy Savage, Harley Race..." trick to make it seem like it's wildly prestigious. The same trick they use to make the World Title seem more prestigious than it really is anymore by hyping it's history and saying lots of hugely popular names.
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