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Old 02-21-2012, 06:51 PM   #1
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I think The Rock could Kill Cena Monday....
So The Rock tweeted this.

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@JohnCena @WWE The truth comes out this Monday. John you have no idea.



With Cena attacking Rock talking about how he left the WWE and never cared about the WWE and all that shit. There is one thing that Rock could attack Cena about.

That Cena was a Failed Bodybuilder and only went into wrestling to be famous, potentally making him look like a fucking idiot on live tv (especially with pictures etc.etc.)
Also pointing out that his family is WWE and he was "raised" in the WWE. Knowing how The Rock can control a crowd and get people to pretty much follow whatever he wants to say, he could litterally kill Cena before Mania, and make this feud boring.


Thoughts??
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:04 PM   #2
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So The Rock tweeted this.

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@JohnCena @WWE The truth comes out this Monday. John you have no idea.



With Cena attacking Rock talking about how he left the WWE and never cared about the WWE and all that shit. There is one thing that Rock could attack Cena about.

That Cena was a Failed Bodybuilder and only went into wrestling to be famous, potentally making him look like a fucking idiot on live tv (especially with pictures etc.etc.)
Also pointing out that his family is WWE and he was "raised" in the WWE. Knowing how The Rock can control a crowd and get people to pretty much follow whatever he wants to say, he could litterally kill Cena before Mania, and make this feud boring.


Thoughts??
Doubt it. No matter what the Rock really says, it doesn't make make what Cena said any less true. And as long as Cena is carrying the flag for professional wrestling and the guys who wrestle night in and night out, against the Rock's "hollywood ego", Rock can't kill Cena.

The problem with this feud is, the fans will cheer the Rock because they like him, he's "fresh" in a sense, as opposed to Cena who is old and has been doing the same thing. However, Cena is technically right. So while the fans are going to get behind the Rock, Cena is the one they should be cheering for. It's an interesting dynamic that won't go away.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:06 PM   #3
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:54 PM   #4
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I dont see how Cena is right about anything, long time fans have ridiculed Flair, Hogan, Nash, HHH etc for years for staying around way past their respective welcomes and hoggging the spotlight. Rock accomplished everything there was to do and frankly had the luxery of going on to bigger and better things i.e more money no bumps and being a leading man in Hollywood.
As far as Rock returning and stealing somebodys spot? who's exactly? The same talent Cena has spent the last 7 years mercilessly crushing. Cena has beat and buried everybody and presented nobody as his equal so whos worthy of facing him at mania? If Rock hadnt returned Cena would be stale himself.
Then some anonymous wrestler blames Rock for the low buyrate at Survivor Series??? the buyrate was low because WWE and SuperCena made Truth and Miz look like jobbers in the whole build up. He crushed them in a friggin handicap match a few weeks prior!!. Who would buy a PPV when you know the outcome of the Main Event?
The harsh reality is John Cena and WWE need the Rock more than he needs them and I hope Rock makes him look like the massive cock he is Monday night :-)
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Old 02-21-2012, 08:43 PM   #6
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I loved Cena's promo last night on RAW but this idea that Cena is right is ridiculous.

Oh no! Rock was at the top of the business and moved on to a bigger career in Hollywood! How dare he accept more money, less travel, a better schedule, safer working conditions, and better both long and short term health!

Anybody on the roster that says they wouldn't take advantage of the opportunities Rock has and leave wrestling behind after accomplishing everything in the wrestling business is full of shit. They're either lying to everyone or lying to themselves. Quite honestly, Rock (or anyone else given the opportunity) would be stupid not to take advantage of it.

Don't get me wrong, as a huge Rock mark, I'm glad Rock's back and doing this match at Mania and I would love for him to come back full time or more often. Rock doesn't owe anyone anything, not the fans, the company, the business or anyone on the roster.

The folks that bitch about Rock "taking someone's spot" or being "too 'Hollywood'" just seem ignorant, bitter and jealous. Guess what? Rock's moved on to bigger things and anyone who thought that he was coming back "full time" regardless of what he said are truly stupid.

The only reason any one does anything is for personal gain and to feed their own ego. Cena, Punk, Jericho, HHH, Flair, Hogan, Taker, all of the rest, they don't wrestle for the fans or for the business. They wrestle because they love the money and the spotlight.
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KILL him?! That's pretty violent!
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:51 PM   #8
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@JohnCena @WWE The truth comes out this Monday. John you have no idea.
He's finally going to admit he's a woman.

If ya SMELLLLLLLLLALALA....What the Rockette...Is cookin'.

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With Cena attacking Rock talking about how he left the WWE and never cared about the WWE and all that shit. There is one thing that Rock could attack Cena about.

That Cena was a Failed Bodybuilder and only went into wrestling to be famous, potentally making him look like a fucking idiot on live tv (especially with pictures etc.etc.)
Also pointing out that his family is WWE and he was "raised" in the WWE. Knowing how The Rock can control a crowd and get people to pretty much follow whatever he wants to say, he could litterally kill Cena before Mania, and make this feud boring.


Thoughts??
Didn't the Rock only go into wrestling because he couldn't make it in pro football?

Seems like a dumb idea to cast stones from glass houses.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:59 PM   #9
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Seriously? Cena could beat the shit out of Rocky. And I highly doubt Rock has something interesting on Cena. it's just all hype... Rock will go back to the land of Movies after this week.. or it'll be his stunt double Attending Raw.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:21 PM   #10
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I still don't get what Cena's beef with Rock is.
After all, The Rock accomplished everything a wrestler could strive to achieve within his wrestling career.
So why would someone be so shocked, upset, and disappointed with him for trying to achieve something more and expand the WWE's media profile in the process?

Cena tried the same with regard to branching out into movies...and it didn't work. All of Cena's commentary regarding Rock just reeks of jealousy and bitterness for falling short of equaling Rock's legacy both in and out of the ring.

Anyone who thought for a second that Rocky was coming back full time is either completely naive or stupid.
The fact that Rock still makes appearances with WWE when he doesn't need the money or exposure says tons about how much wrestling means to him.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:33 PM   #11
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The beef is that Rock talks out both sides of his mouth. He comes across as incredibly disingenuous. The "I'll never leave" comment is a perfect example. The Rock was quite aware that he was only coming back for a couple brief appearances, but he said it anyway.

The Rock says one thing, but does another. His actions don't match his words. And eventually people start to pick up on that.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:34 PM   #12
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And yeah, I'm well aware that Rocky is not the only guy who does this. Lots of people do it. Anne Frankly, those people are assholes too.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:37 PM   #13
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The Rock is coming back for good starting next week!

unless he isn't
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:38 PM   #14
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Everything Cena said is true, period. Cena may have failed at other things before coming to wrestling, but most guys did/have. Was Rock wrong for going to hollywood? No. Would I do the same fucking thing in his shoes? Fuck yes. However if you go to hollywood don't come back with the "You're my family I'm never leaving again!" shit. Rock came back for a nice paycheck and a chance to plug his movies not for us. This match will draw some money for WWE, but it's a flash in the pan deal. After Wrestlemania there's no more Rocky payday for the E so in my opinion they would have been better off using the spot to further a talent who was actually interested in staying with the business.
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:49 AM   #15
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Well Cena gets the win over the Rock at Mania and then stays, so he gets the rub.
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Old 02-22-2012, 01:52 AM   #16
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Some of you are forgetting the original beef Cena had with Rock. Cena never had a problem with Rock leaving. As Supreme said, he has always had a problem with Rock's comments about WWE after he left.
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I think they are both right, and Cena did really well on Monday.

Also I don't think Cena should necessarily win. I do think he is going to win though.
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I would love to hear The Rock just shoot with Dwayne's reasons for becoming a movie star. The real reasons. The obvious ones. The money, the fame -- how he "outgrew" putting his body on the line each and every night to make a killing. Rock was always entertaining as a heel, and he's going to be cheered anyway, so he might as well go full heel mode on Cena, and call him bitter and jealous because he can't seem to get out of the WWE because no one wants to pay to see him.

We're getting close to WrestleMania. It's time to start making people want to see boots to asses.
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The harsh reality is John Cena and WWE need the Rock more than he needs them and I hope Rock makes him look like the massive cock he is Monday night :-)
Yep... Summerslam buyrate was HUGE!!! Rockys still packing them in...


Sarcasm btw...

Interestingly enough however a lot of the people who are on Rocks nuts saying what has he done wrong, "he made a choice to take more money better schedule etc" Yet these are the same guys who spent a lot of time hating on Cena for being a maineventer. As if that's his choice. GUy does the job that's asked of him.

The hate makes me a Cena fan by default, the guy is a champ in my view who does whats asked of him, puts a good face out there for the business and doesn't seem to have an issue doing the job.
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Cena's promo actually made me want him to win a little bit. If The Rock comes out on Monday and just does what he has done previously (ie. standard catchphrases, plug twitter, and then call Cena some ridiculous nickname/insult) then I think he will get shit on eventually. I think if The Rock delivers a meaningful passionate promo and points out that he left on top and left to pave the way for John Cena and others then it will work. I also think they can make The Rock the heel in this thing by taking his 2003 gimmick up to an entirely higher level. Monday will be very interesting because while it is the same shit, Cena delivered an emotional promo that actually got people behind him without doing some clever rap or him being goody-goody and shaking it off. The Rock can deliver an intense and emotional promo that will set up this match beautifully. The Rock can do an intense and emotional promo, and that is what this match needs in the build to make from just "Icon vs Icon II" into something even bigger that will be remembered for more than just being 2 of the biggest names of 2 eras facing off in the most insanely overhyped match of all time. I also think people are overemphasizing that WrestleMania is in Miami. Yes, it is in The Rock's hometown but most of the people there will be "smart" fans from all over the world who won't automatically cheer The Rock and boo John Cena. I think it would be harder to make The Rock heel, but it could be the much more impressive and entertaining option.
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The Rock sold out, I'd love to see how his father would re act to such a thing.
He only gained stardom because of his role in The Mummy Returns xD....
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Bitch, please.

The Rock is taking a step down to do this, more work for less money and promotion to a specialised audience that isn't really worth his time.

Occam's fucking Razor. It's highly unlikely Vince can offer movie-level money to the Rock, or that the Rock feels this vein of promotion is worth it. Hell, in a market where the WWE has some of the worst crossover appeal in YEARS, the Rock is benefiting the 'E more than the 'E is benefiting the Rock.

I can understand feeling the Rock is talking bullshit (And we all know, the truth is such an important quality in wrestling promos), but complaining that he's only in it for the check is just stupid.
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You cant wrestle forever... whatever he needs to do for the WWE, Im sure he would gladly do... Sure hes moved to other venues, but he along with others would come back to help out.
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You cant wrestle forever... whatever he needs to do for the WWE, Im sure he would gladly do... Sure hes moved to other venues, but he along with others would come back to help out.
No way man. He's obviously doing it for the pay cut and the free publicity he's getting on a product nobody cares about anymore.
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One of the hugest things was The Rock's whole "Don't call me The Rock anymore" campaign.

I remember when he started this up and that had to rub the boys the wrong way. That is him distancing himself from wrestling as much as possible.

I'm glad he's calling himself The Rock again, because it doesn't make him seem like he's looking down on wrestling. But the damage has been done. It can be fixed, and he's working on that.
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One of the hugest things was The Rock's whole "Don't call me The Rock anymore" campaign.
One of those things bitches blew out of proportion? I agree.
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Bitch, please.

The Rock is taking a step down to do this, more work for less money and promotion to a specialised audience that isn't really worth his time.

Occam's fucking Razor. It's highly unlikely Vince can offer movie-level money to the Rock, or that the Rock feels this vein of promotion is worth it. Hell, in a market where the WWE has some of the worst crossover appeal in YEARS, the Rock is benefiting the 'E more than the 'E is benefiting the Rock.

I can understand feeling the Rock is talking bullshit (And we all know, the truth is such an important quality in wrestling promos), but complaining that he's only in it for the check is just stupid.
I hate to say it but this post is spot on.

The Rock has been on a streak of Number one movies. The WWE is lucky to nab "stars" like Snookie. he makes 5 times more per film than the top WWE star, and he does several films a year.

Money is not a factor.

He is "doing this" for himself (as he misses it) and "the fans". His motivations are legit IMHO, just not the way he is doing it.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:43 PM   #28
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I still don't get what Cena's beef with Rock is.
After all, The Rock accomplished everything a wrestler could strive to achieve within his wrestling career.
So why would someone be so shocked, upset, and disappointed with him for trying to achieve something more and expand the WWE's media profile in the process?

Cena tried the same with regard to branching out into movies...and it didn't work. All of Cena's commentary regarding Rock just reeks of jealousy and bitterness for falling short of equaling Rock's legacy both in and out of the ring.

Anyone who thought for a second that Rocky was coming back full time is either completely naive or stupid.
The fact that Rock still makes appearances with WWE when he doesn't need the money or exposure says tons about how much wrestling means to him.

Love it. Also, I think people are blowing the "I'm never, ever going away" comment that The Rock made last year out of proportion. And I admit, that's The Rock's fault. Nobody, and I mean nobody with a semi-intelligent grasp on pro wrestling today and the past few years should think that The Rock will return full-time.

What The Rock meant by the comment is that he will never completely leave. He will always come back for appearances, like he's done throughout the past seven years. Albeit, the via satellite stuff is a bummer because he's not physically there, but it's enjoyable nonetheless.

He'll be back through Mania starting Monday night and it's gonna be intense. I have no clue where this is going to go now that Cena said what he did on Raw. I can understand Cena's gripe along with everyone else who has similar feelings. Making that comment was The Rock putting too much confidence in the boys and the people to understand "what he meant" as opposed to taking what he said on the surface level.

But hey, this isn't a philosophy of language course and there really shouldn't be implications in wrestling promos. He should have said exactly what he meant, or not make the comment at all. I understand that, and I'm the biggest Rock mark here. In doing it the way he did, he left an opening for Cena and everyone else to attack him. It could make the feud that much better, though.

There is more I want to say but I've gotta get my meathead on then get to work. I'll have to see how everyone flames me later.
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Rock did this shit on purpose, if he didn't, Cena would have absolutely nothing to say to him. The Rock would just make him look like a retard, because Cena's supposed to be good on the mic.

I'll quit posting in this forum forever if Rock loses to Cena in a clean match.
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:07 AM   #30
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I don't get all this supposed backstage heat the rock has, for taking a mania spot. Like, what do they want? I guess bump the biggest match since Rock vs Hogan so a couple mid carders can have a match at wrestlemania? Is this seriously the attitude backstage?

Same thing happened with Trish/Morrison & Melina last year, and I couldn't wrap my head around it then, either. Wrestlers from the past coming back for a big event has been pretty common, for decades now.

But it seems now, that all of a sudden people have a problem with that, and I really don't understand why. These are people who have paid their dues long, long ago. In an era when wrestling was more violent and dangerous, I might add.

I just don't get this sense of entitlement that these complainers seem to have.
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I agree with Captain of Fun completely. As Rock himself has said, it's like Hogan coming back for WM X8. It's not like Hogan was keeping Tajiri off the card or something, Hogan brought it a lot of interest to the card, and as a result the WWE product.

Who ever is backstage complaining about this is incredibly short sighted, and only thinking about WM. The Rock being in the main event at WM after so much movie exposure is huge for WWE, and will bring in more money and interest in general, creating bigger paychecks and fans in the bigger picture.

I also think the Rock has to lose to Cena, much like Hogan lost to Rock. I think Rock knows the business well enough to know that Cena has to look good going forward, as he did when he put over Goldberg in 2003, in his last singles match.
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It's not as basic as a lot of you's are making it out to be. The guys aren't upset because Drew, or Wade, or The Miz don't have a match booked and likely won't. They are upset because The Rock is a little bitch and ONLY comes around when he has a movie that needs promoting, and passes it off like his reason for being there is the exact opposite. It's fairly obvious that some producer said, "Listen Rock it might be a good idea for you to talk to Vince McMahon and do another match or two, you could really pull in some more tickets for this movie, if you did a big match against say... John Cena you would be able to pull in a whole new legion of people to buy tickets for our... I mean your movies".

Also The Rock is a bitch because he came to Raw and said "I WILL NEVER LEAVE AGAIN" and he fucking did, the next week!

Now do I want Rock on Raw every night? Hell no, his schtick gets old real fast to me. However the small doses are fine, and am I excited about this match? Hell yeah!

And you know what, I'm going to boo the heel, THE ROCK.

It doesn't matter if the people boo Cena or not in Miami, Cena is the babyface. He will rise above and play a babyface while The Rock will take cheap shots and be the typical borderline heel Rock that we all know and love or hate.

I think a lot of these .com reports about Rocky having heat are a great way to get people like the IWC stoked for the match, and possibly a great way to get some of the adult audience to side with John for the big match.

Either way, realize Cena goes in babyface and rises above the hate that Rock will spit with his mad mic skills.

It's a work.
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It's not as basic as a lot of you's are making it out to be. The guys aren't upset because Drew, or Wade, or The Miz don't have a match booked and likely won't. They are upset because The Rock is a little bitch and ONLY comes around when he has a movie that needs promoting, and passes it off like his reason for being there is the exact opposite. It's fairly obvious that some producer said, "Listen Rock it might be a good idea for you to talk to Vince McMahon and do another match or two, you could really pull in some more tickets for this movie, if you did a big match against say... John Cena you would be able to pull in a whole new legion of people to buy tickets for our... I mean your movies".
I've already covered why this shit is stupid and it hasn't gotten any less so since then. So I'm just going to point that out and leave it as-is.
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It doesn't matter. Cena goes heel at Mania. He'll prolly beat the rock,with outside help of somekind. That's my pick anyway.No matter what they aren't going to let their top guy look weak to a former star. Remember Rock/Hogan? Yea that's what is going down. In my humble opinion.
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more work for less money and promotion to a specialised audience that isn't really worth his time.
lol what? More work?
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Rock probably works more on one movie than he ever will again with WWE.
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So based off the Raw thread and this thread I now gather that people are on Cena's side in this feud now?
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The Rock isn't Hogan and Cena isn't The Rock.

Stop it.
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I would debate that "Rock isn't Hogan" part...
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