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Old 03-01-2012, 12:31 AM   #1
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If stone cold was around today in the pg era does he still become a star of is he a mid-carder like he was in wcw
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:40 AM   #2
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stone cold would never existed. but i think steve austin would have a gimmick that worked and made money.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:44 AM   #3
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If somehow things turned out how they are right now without Steve Austin, and Stone Cold Steve Austin just came out today, he'd be out shadowed by "the originator of the pipe bomb" CM Punk. Austin would have been stuck in midcard hell for quite some time, perhaps until someone gets injured to free up a spot.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:46 AM   #4
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I don't know. I mean, I like to think that true talent shines through eventually and finds a way to get over. I just don't know exactly how he would have made it. I'm sure he would have "made it". Just tough to gauge the level of stardom.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:47 AM   #5
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I could see him being what Randy Orton is right now though. A little more over maybe and better on the mic.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:49 AM   #6
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also we would be watching wcw right now.
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:40 AM   #7
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BAH GAWD!!!! STUN GUN TO GOLDBERG..... STUNNING STEVE BREAKS THE STREAK!!!!!
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:25 AM   #8
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There were people high up in WCW who wanted to make Steve Austin WCW World Champion. If you listened to what the announcers and others were saying about him, the audience was well on their way to being conditioned to buying Austin as a Main Event Heel. Paul E. introduced Austin to the Dangerous Alliance as "The World's Greatest Athlete." Ventura was bigger on him than he was on Pillman in the Blondes. Flair himself told Austin that "Arn tells me you're going to be The Man one day" in a promo.

Then Bischoff took over...
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:27 AM   #9
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:45 AM   #10
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There were people high up in WCW who wanted to make Steve Austin WCW World Champion. If you listened to what the announcers and others were saying about him, the audience was well on their way to being conditioned to buying Austin as a Main Event Heel. Paul E. introduced Austin to the Dangerous Alliance as "The World's Greatest Athlete." Ventura was bigger on him than he was on Pillman in the Blondes. Flair himself told Austin that "Arn tells me you're going to be The Man one day" in a promo.

Then Bischoff took over...
can't really blame Bischoff, even Austin himself doesn't blame him for firing him given the state of WCW and his injury. Plus it was only once he'd gone to ECW and cut "those promos" when it all started coming together. If he'd have stayed in WCW, I'd say there's at least a chance he never gets to "discover" those promos in himself/start heading down that path and maybe gets lost in the mix once the nWo struck gold. Best thing that ever happened to him was Bischoff firing him.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:48 AM   #11
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I think he still becomes a star in this day and age though, for the criticism the "experts" like to give Vince/WWE, the cream still always rises to the top. That just wasn't the case in WCW.
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Old 03-01-2012, 11:49 AM   #12
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Austin had some of the greatest promos ever under his belt, he could thrive in any era.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:15 PM   #13
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can't really blame Bischoff, even Austin himself doesn't blame him for firing him given the state of WCW and his injury. Plus it was only once he'd gone to ECW and cut "those promos" when it all started coming together. If he'd have stayed in WCW, I'd say there's at least a chance he never gets to "discover" those promos in himself/start heading down that path and maybe gets lost in the mix once the nWo struck gold. Best thing that ever happened to him was Bischoff firing him.
I was referring Eric telling him that a guy in black trunks and black boots "never getting over." This was before the injury.

Austin was always good. Only thing he needed improvement on was his promos and working with Pillman did a great deal on that front. The plan was going to be putting him with Harley Race, and he DEFINITELY would have improved on the mic with him.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:05 PM   #14
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Austin had some of the greatest promos ever under his belt, he could thrive in any era.
Exactly, Austin > Punk in any era.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:24 PM   #15
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Austin did have some experience in a PG setting considering both WCW and WWF were PG in his early days although if he was to arrive now, he'd have to deal with a pretty stacked main event scene and Cena as the dominate star on both Raw and the WWE.

He could easily become a top star quickly on Smackdown although Raw probably would take a bit longer.
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Old 03-02-2012, 04:17 AM   #16
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nah, i'd say Austin would make it in any era. Austin is just so far above his peers at any time that he grows to become the man.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:14 PM   #17
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There were people high up in WCW who wanted to make Steve Austin WCW World Champion. If you listened to what the announcers and others were saying about him, the audience was well on their way to being conditioned to buying Austin as a Main Event Heel. Paul E. introduced Austin to the Dangerous Alliance as "The World's Greatest Athlete." Ventura was bigger on him than he was on Pillman in the Blondes. Flair himself told Austin that "Arn tells me you're going to be The Man one day" in a promo.

Then Bischoff took over...
Plus, Hulk Hogan got signed and screwed everything up, thanks to his "complete creative control" clause.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:49 PM   #18
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Austin could have been a star in any era with the right gimmick and push. But could Stone Cold Steve Austin? I'm not sure to be honest. The character was a total right place right time type of situation, wrestling fans had grown up and so Austin was the most "grown up" and bad ass of any character, so they latched onto him.

He would have never been as big in WCW, or obviously ECW.

What happened to him in WWE wasn't supposed to happen it just did. I highly doubt that could be recreated ever again.

Something big may happen but it won't be Austin 3:16, it will have to be originally all on it's own.
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