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Old 05-26-2012, 06:52 PM   #1
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I heard a TNA ad using Real American as the background music. How can they do that?
Nothing major, maybe, but isn't that song WWE property? I remember a time when I heard Marc Mero in WWF and the Renegade in WCW using the same theme, and I think heard WCW was using Mr. Perfect's theme with Shawn Stasiak also. Is this a sign that WWE may be nurturing TNA just a little, or are there some aspects the companies just shrug on because it's not worth fighting over?

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Old 05-26-2012, 07:31 PM   #2
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...Do we have proof?
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:34 PM   #3
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Are you sure it wasn't "American Made"?
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Old 05-26-2012, 07:35 PM   #4
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Are you sure it wasn't "American Males"?
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TNA will have paid for the license to use it in advertising, so WWE will actually be making money off it while retaining ownership of the song.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:18 AM   #6
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Can we have a video?
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:23 AM   #7
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From Googling around, it looks like Rick Derringer still owns the rights to the song.

I'm assuming there's some deal where only WWE can use it at a wrestling event though, otherwise WCW and TNA probably would have licensed it.
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:16 AM   #8
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President Barack Obama used it at last year's White House Correspondents' Dinner
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:49 AM   #9
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It was likely American Made, otherwise TNA would have used Real American for Hogan's theme.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:41 PM   #10
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yah, the song was made specifically for the WWF in the same vein as Saliva doing Batista's, Disturbed for Austin etc so it surely would have been American Made
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But even if it was "American Made", doesn't WWE still own the rights to that as well since it's a WCW theme?
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pretty sure Hogan himself or maybe Jimmy Hart "own" American Made, it was on Hogan's Boot Band album schtick/wasn't released through WCW
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Pretty sure WWE doesn't own the rights to Real American. A few weeks ago Hogan was a guest voice on American Dad, and near the end they were playing Real American. Why would a show on Fox use a TNA wrestler & be able to use a WWE theme? Pretty sure it's because WWE doesn't own exclusive rights to it.
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American Dad, that classic pro wrestling show that WWE would see as some variety of competition
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I remember a time when I heard Marc Mero in WWF and the Renegade in WCW using the same theme, and I think heard WCW was using Mr. Perfect's theme with Shawn Stasiak also.
You're right about those.

The theme that was used for Marc Mero and The Renegade was a production theme called "Rough Rock". Production themes were used quite a lot by the WWF and WCW. The WWE still do use them to this day.

As for Stasiak and Mr. Perfect, the theme used for Stasiak was Jimmy Hart's remake of Mr. Perfect's theme.
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Still no media proof? Whatever.
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American Dad, that classic pro wrestling show that WWE would see as some variety of competition
Using Hulk Hogan's WWE theme in a scene dedicated to someone on the TNA roster... pretty sure the point of the whole thing is music rights, not what counts as competition.
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you think American Dad and the majority of it's audience gives a fuck what Hogan's current theme is? or do you think they'd like to use his "most recognizable" theme/the theme most casual fans remember him using?
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Still no media proof? Whatever.
Here you go! Listen to the background. It is Real American.
http://www.diva-dirt.com/2012/05/25/...for-tna-debut/
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well colour me stumped, no idea what the situation is then
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Yeah, fucked me up when I heard it. I don't know what's going on with it, but it's most likely what Hasney said, and Derringer uses it whenever and wherever he chooses.
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Doesn't Hogan own the entire trademark and stuff associated with his Hulkamaina character which should include the song itself from Jimmy Hart's partial ownership?

I know he later sold a share of the rights to Bischoff which is probably how TNA got legal access to the song.
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Oh wow.

Perhaps it was produced before Hogan?
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Oh wow.

Perhaps it was produced before Hogan?
The US Express used it prior to Hulk

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I have the first WWE music album, and it was for US Express. Hulk had a completely different theme.
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This must stem from the lawsuit maybe?
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Very likely.
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I think there is some form of nurturing going on, considering how often TNA refers to WWE-signed talent on air, and WWE doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
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Old 05-28-2012, 01:18 PM   #32
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They don't have a problem with it because it doesn't make any difference to them what TNA are doing / it's free promotion / reacting to it would give TNA desperately needed exposure. No "nurturing" there.
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:16 PM   #33
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I disagree, I think that keeping life in TNA is in WWE's interest for reason that to one day have another real rivalry of federations. Figures show this generated more fans for the whole of the wrestling genre than one solo company. If WWE didn't want competition, they could've easily nipped TNA's bud before it grew.
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TNA will never be true competition.
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Maybe not, but one way or another, they are relying too much on WWE, such as WWE's ex-talent, parodies of WWE storylines and characters, and reference to WWE. Kiss the ass of the other company as if already surrendering and what the fuck did they expect to happen? They should've been doing things their way instead of doing what all the old (and dead in most cases) companies. Hiring Russo, like both WCW and WWE did, and knowing he's a federation-killer, was the most ignorant thing they've ever done among others close to it.
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Hogan and Bischoff coming in are bigger problems than Russo ever was. Russo may have booked shit, but Bischoff is who put WCW in the red.
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I agree with that, hiring Bischoff wasn't exactly a wise move either. Hogan's kinda under question right now, so I can't really say too much about him other than trying to go all NWO with the Immortal shit was kinda lame.
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I disagree, I think that keeping life in TNA is in WWE's interest for reason that to one day have another real rivalry of federations. Figures show this generated more fans for the whole of the wrestling genre than one solo company. If WWE didn't want competition, they could've easily nipped TNA's bud before it grew.
WWE doesn't have competition. TNA have never looked like a threat to their fanbase so why would they care if TNA are obsessed with reminding their viewers that bigger stars work for the other company every chance they get? What is their to nip in the bud exactly? They're not helping TNA, they're not trying to destroy TNA, they could not care less about TNA.
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TNA is growing, and people will go on about how it will never succeed, but alot of companies have sprouted from nothing-status, including WWE. All TNA has to do is get rid of the crappy management, use motivated writers with creative optimism, start editing and rehearsing more often, and do this while WWE is exposing its achilles heel in the bad writing and repetitiveness, and if they care less about TNA, then you may as well add that too.
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