Better Wrestler #273

[Juan]

VS

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[whiteyford]

Feel dirty, but Sid. Loved his WCW stuff growing up, and his promos rival the mic legend Scott Steiner at times.

[Kane Knight]

Kane by default, since I never really liked Sid.

[Ermaximus]

Are you "shitting" me with this Juan?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It's gotta be...it's gotta be Kane!!!!!!!!!

[Juan]

Originally Posted by Ermaximus Are you "shitting" me with this Juan?

I see what you did there, but as far as "big men" go, Sid was as, if not more, successful as Kane

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Seventeen years of continuous employment=Kane has been more successful than Sid.

[Juan]

Well by that logic, The Brooklyn Brawler is the most successful wrestler in history.

[Juan]

and that Kane is more successful than Randy Orton, John Cena and CM Punk

[Juan]

My point being that continuous employment is not the best way to measure how successful someone is

[Kane Knight]

I prefer win/loss streak.

[KaosDarksol]

Kane. Don't even remember sid

[Rammsteinmad]

Was a huge Sid mark in the 90's, but overall I prefer Kane.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

When's Kane getting some actual competition?

[VSG]

Originally Posted by Juan I see what you did there, but as far as "big men" go, Sid was as, if not more, successful as Kane

Debatable but I see where you are coming from. But as a character (however many times it has been shit on), Kane poops on Sid.

SID IS THE MASTER! AND THE RULER!! OR THE WORLD!

[Nicky Fives]

Big Red Retard.....

[K.Smoke]

Can't seee how Sid is losing this. If u watched Kane vs Daniel Bryan this friday u can see why Psycho Sid / Sid Vicious / Sid Justice whatever u want to call him was far better. He had better in ring ability, Better mic skills, He thrived during the time of the legends such as Hogan and Flair and Sting etc. etc... Sid is just far better than Kane.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Joesgonnakillyou When's Kane getting some actual competition?

The first couple rounds are generally pretty light.

Originally Posted by K.Smoke Can't seee how Sid is losing this. If u watched Kane vs Daniel Bryan this friday u can see why Psycho Sid / Sid Vicious / Sid Justice whatever u want to call him was far better. He had better in ring ability, Better mic skills, He thrived during the time of the legends such as Hogan and Flair and Sting etc. etc... Sid is just far better than Kane.

I have my own Opinion.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Originally Posted by K.Smoke Can't seee how Sid is losing this. If u watched Kane vs Daniel Bryan this friday u can see why Psycho Sid / Sid Vicious / Sid Justice whatever u want to call him was far better. He had better in ring ability, Better mic skills, He thrived during the time of the legends such as Hogan and Flair and Sting etc. etc... Sid is just far better than Kane.

Just because he was there during the Hogan/Flair/Sting doesn't mean he thrived.

If he thrived he wouldn't have bounced around like an unwanted child after a divorce so many times.

[Shisen Kopf]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight I prefer win/loss streak.

Why didn't you vote for Ryback then? Apologize and change your name to Ryback Knight.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Loved Sid during the final years of WCW but I've probably enjoyed more of Kane, even through his boring phases.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf Why didn't you vote for Ryback then? Apologize and change your name to Ryback Knight.

Because Glen Jacobs is a libertarian, and therefore does not like black people.

[MoFo]

Sid by far.

[Ermaximus]

Sid was good, but he was fucking crazy.

[K.Smoke]

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon Just because he was there during the Hogan/Flair/Sting doesn't mean he thrived. If he thrived he wouldn't have bounced around like an unwanted child after a divorce so many times.

So u ignore that fact that I also said he had better in ring ability and mic skills.


I mean why is Kane better can someone explain

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Compare and Contrast.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ignored because I didn't really want to say I thought you were wrong.

[K.Smoke]

Originally Posted by Iginfest Compare and Contrast.

How do u compare and contrast mishap against execution. That move by kane was probably the best of his career while the one by Sid was his worst.

I mean out right in ring ability and mic skills against in ring ability and mic skill.



Nice vid by the way

[K.Smoke]

Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic (2004) Impregnating Lita^[132]
Most Overrated (2010)^[132]
Worst Feud of the Year (2002) vs. Triple H^[132]
Worst Feud of the Year (2003) vs. Shane McMahon^[132]
Worst Feud of the Year (2004) vs. Matt Hardy and Lita^[132]
Worst Feud of the Year (2007) vs. Big Daddy V^[132]
Worst Feud of the Year (2008) vs. Rey Mysterio^[132]
Worst Feud of the Year (2010) vs. Edge^[132]
Worst Gimmick (1996) as Fake Diesel^[132]
Worst Worked Match of the Year (2001) with The Undertaker vs. KroniK at Unforgiven^[132]

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

One man's opinion does not an legit award make. Especially if that one man is Dave Meltzer.

Yeah, Meltzer is quite the douche bag

[K.Smoke]

true but his awards are recognized and citied abroad.



And to add to things he's quite right. the impregnating Lita was stupid, fake Diesel stupid we can just go on but at the end of the day he got these awards because of his mic skills because a poor plot can be helped by mic skills. Sid was great on the Mic. Kane still isn't halfway decent on it.


My question is do u think Kane is a better Mic technician or Wrestler then Psycho Sid or do u just like Kane's gimmick more

[Rollermacka]

Originally Posted by Iginfest

Supposedly, Sid was wearing "boot lifts" (almost like wedged insoles that make you taller) and they made him land unbalanced and that's why his leg snapped.... on top of it being a freak accident.

As for the question at hand, I am currently leaning towards Captian Poopy Pants. For every botched promo of his, he had some amazing ones to make up for it.






Personally, one of my favorite promos of all time

[Emperor Smeat]

Kane

Originally Posted by K.Smoke true but his awards are recognized and citied abroad. And to add to things he's quite right. the impregnating Lita was stupid, fake Diesel stupid we can just go on but at the end of the day he got these awards because of his mic skills because a poor plot can be helped by mic skills. Sid was great on the Mic. Kane still isn't halfway decent on it. My question is do u think Kane is a better Mic technician or Wrestler then Psycho Sid or do u just like Kane's gimmick more

By who, the IWC who thinks John Cena is bad for the company and that they could book the company better than Vince?

[XCaliber]

Sid Vicious/Psycho Sid was great... Justice not so much but he still gets my vote.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by K.Smoke true but his awards are recognized and citied abroad.

Which means little more than people tend to treat him with credibility. That doesn't mean credibility is deserved.

Originally Posted by Gertner By who, the IWC who thinks John Cena is bad for the company and that they could book the company better than Vince?

Well, you tell me how turning Cena heel for some reason, having him denounce his former gimmick, and drop PIPE BOMBS on everyone wouldn't make more money!

[Lock Jaw]

This is a tough one, but I gotta go with Kane. Even though he hasn't held as many "titles", I feel he has been the more successful.

[K.Smoke]

[quote=Kane Knight;3903095]Which means little more than people tend to treat him with credibility. That doesn't mean credibility is deserved. quote]




You don't need to deserve it when it is accepted. At the end of the day. When these guys are brought up. His awards will be cited. If someone else comes along and say, Well who are u to say who deserves what. He can say, I'm the person that have been relied upon for this for years. Literally over 2 decades. The Wrestling brands except his views and quote it.