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Old 09-06-2012, 09:01 AM   #1
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UFC 152: Live from Canada!


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Main Card (PPV)
Weight Class Red Corner
Blue Corner Method Round Time Notes
Light Heavyweight Jon Jones (c) vs Vitor Belfort


Note 1
Flyweight Joseph Benavidez vs Demetrious Johnson


Note 2
Middleweight Michael Bisping vs Brian Stann



Light Heavyweight Matt Hamill vs Vladimir Matyushenko



Featherweight Cub Swanson vs Charles Oliveira



Preliminary Card (FX)
Light Heavyweight Igor Pokrajac vs Vinny Magalhães



Lightweight TJ Grant vs Evan Dunham



Welterweight Sean Pierson vs Lance Benoist



Featherweight Jimy Hettes vs Marcus Brimage



Preliminary Card (Facebook)
Welterweight Seth Baczynski vs Simeon Thoresen



Bantamweight Mitch Gagnon vs Walel Watson



Welterweight Kyle Noke vs Charlie Brenneman



Pumped for this card....4 great fights on the PPV, can't wait.
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That's a stacked card..

Hate that Belfort is getting the shot and not Machida/Shogun/Sonnen...
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Old 09-06-2012, 12:11 PM   #3
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I hope the 4 "great" fight are all but the main event cause all those will be awesome..

I see Jones getting a TKO victory in the 2nd due to GnP..
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This is a proper PPV card. Funny that Greg "the sport killer" Jackson will be cornerman in 3 of the 5 fights on the main card. Awkward.......
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Stann is gonna KO him..

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by the power of tea and crumpets, The Marine not starring John Cena is going down, 3 rounds, unanimous decision, cue Bisping calling out Anderson Silva once every 6 minutes afterwards
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Main event will be good, the fight it self might not be spectacular but i'm betting it will end with Jones KOing Belfort. KOs are always exciting.
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UFC 152 boom or bust for longshot Belfort
By Chad Dundas

Vitor Belfort has always been an all-or-nothing kind of guy.

Even by the volatile standards of mixed martial arts -- a sport where nearly everyone eventually gets a slice of humble pie -- Belfort's ride has been a special kind of roller coaster. One chock-full of skyscraper highs and particularly crushing lows.

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For a short time during the mid 1990s, he might have been the best in the world until UFC 15, when Randy Couture drew the world a map of how to beat him, and his legend has never really recovered.

Belfort went on to become champion, but he's also played the goat on numerous occasions. He's been called unbeatable, only to have his flaws exposed again and again. He's dished out some "Ultimate Knockouts" -- his 44-second blitzing of Wanderlei Silva at UFC Brazil comes to mind -- but last year also found himself on the receiving end of one of the sport's most electric KOs at the left foot of Anderson Silva.

At this rate, when it finally comes time to tell the story of Belfort's near 16-year run in MMA, he may be best remembered as a fighter who didn't quite live up to that early hype.

Unless … unless …

Do we even dare to dream it?

It would be disingenuous to imply that Belfort could erase the many past disappointments of his career with a single victory over Jon Jones. However, accepting a short-notice shot at Jones' light heavyweight title at UFC 152 does give him a once-in-a-lifetime chance to strike a resounding blow for his legacy.

All he has to do is pull off one of the biggest upsets in UFC history.

Oddsmakers have made this the ultimate boom-or-bust opportunity for Belfort, installing "The Phenom" as the kind of prohibitive underdog we seldom see in MMA anymore.

Certainly not in the sport's premier organization.

Certainly not in a pay-per-view main event.

The 7-to-1 odds against Belfort (and the -1,000 betting line in favor of Jones) aren't necessarily historic, but as the marquee bout on such a high-profile card, you have to do some digging to find their equal. Welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre was a comparable favorite against Matt Serra at UFC 69; ditto for Fedor Emelianenko when he took on Fabricio Werdum in Strikeforce in 2010.

Spoiler alert: The only reason anyone remembers those odds is obviously because Serra and Werdum pulled off unbelievable upsets. Had they not, well, they'd merely be the answers to trivia questions now. Or worse, the punch lines of jokes.

Belfort faces a similar situation against Jones.

Nobody, for example, remembers that Dan Hardy was a 5-to-1 underdog against GSP at UFC 111 or that Cristiane “Cyborg” Santos went off at an amazing -2,500 against Jan Finney on the undercard of the Emelianenko-Werdum fight. Hardy and Finney were dogs who didn't bark, and their golden opportunities were quickly forgotten.

If Belfort wins, it'll be one for the history books. He can punch his ticket into every celebratory photo slideshow, retrospective and end-of-the-year awards piece on every MMA website worth its salt. He'll also be the UFC's 205-pound champion, which would be a pretty nice perk for a guy who doesn't even fight in that weight class anymore. Fans who were either optimistic or foolhardy enough to pay to tune in to UFC 152 can likewise brag to their friends that they were watching the night Belfort shocked the world.

If he loses, he'll disappear into the ether alongside Hardy and Finney and every other failed longshot matchmakers have drummed up when they couldn't find anyone else to fight their dominant champions. Belfort will go back to the middleweight division as a slightly more tarnished version of his already tarnished self and "that time Vitor fought Bones" will simply be another of the sport's many cautionary tales.

Safe to say Belfort already knows as much as he cares to about going for it all and coming up empty.
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lol that actually makes too much sense for it not to happen. Bisping has looked good lately, might not have enough to finish Stann but by unanimous dec.
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His most impressive fight IMO was taking Rashad to a decision..
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His most impressive fight IMO was taking Rashad to a decision..
Leban is Decent
"Sexyama" is over.
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Kang is not a big name
He took the loss to Rashad
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He almost beat Chael though but I think Chael was off his game that night.
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He did beat Chael, it was a flat out robbery.
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BIsbing has been mint lately. Even in his loss. But holy fuck brian stann is ready for this fight.
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He did beat Chael, it was a flat out robbery.
I actually thought he beat Sonnen too. Chael looked gassed by the end and if it went 5 I think Bisping would have definitely taken the decision.
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Both men looked mediocre but I thought Bisping won too. I think Sonnen is pretty unspectacular unless he has an opponent/fight that drives him to be better, for example Anderson Silva.
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whoa that just "triggered" the memory that Matt Hamill was in a dream I had last night and was cut (as in "busted open") during the weigh ins
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somebody must have done it because people were kicking off at somebody saying they'd ruined the fight, bit vague I know
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"I was driving off the freeway, I had just landed and called him and told him what Sonnen said and he f***ing laughed," White said in describing Jones' initial reaction to the Sonnen offer. "It wasn't like, 'Whoa f***ing this might be the biggest mistake of my f***ing career.' I thought we had a f***ing fight. He was laughing and was like 'Alright I'm going to call my team and call you back in a little while.' And then they call back and it was a completely different f***ing story. It was the genius Greg Jackson that talked him out of the fight. Talked him out of fighting Chael Sonnen on eight days f***ing notice, yet fighting Vitor Belfort off a full f***ing camp."
Dana sounds like a huge idiot there.
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It's basically Dana realizing he still has to promote Jones's fights and that he fucked up by railroading his next big superstar. Now he's just going to put it all on Greg Jackson talking him out of it. It's not like Jones told him okay I'll do it and then called back later and backed out. Jones saying "Alright I'm going to call my team and call you back in a little while," should have given him some indication that it wasn't all a lock and while I'm not the biggest Greg Jackson fan, look at his track record coaching fighters. Why wouldn't Jones listen to his coach over the promoter?
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Jones should just embrace being the bad guy. If he does that and continues to eat his opponent's hearts he'll be alright. Some of Nike's most marketable stars are also the most "hated" by fans in their respective sports (Kobe, LeBron, Vick).
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It's basically Dana realizing he still has to promote Jones's fights and that he fucked up by railroading his next big superstar. Now he's just going to put it all on Greg Jackson talking him out of it. It's not like Jones told him okay I'll do it and then called back later and backed out. Jones saying "Alright I'm going to call my team and call you back in a little while," should have given him some indication that it wasn't all a lock and while I'm not the biggest Greg Jackson fan, look at his track record coaching fighters. Why wouldn't Jones listen to his coach over the promoter?
he pretty much put all of the blame on Jackson straight away during the initial conference call when the cancellation was announced
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I was reffering to this sentence "....Talked him out of fighting Chael Sonnen on eight days f***ing notice, yet fighting Vitor Belfort off a full f***ing camp."

I think any fighter would want a full training camp against their opponent, although when I made that post I see I quoted the wrong paragraph, i meant to quote this one:

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"Ok, we were gonna fight Dan Henderson, guy's got f***ing knockout power, great wrestling, a good chin, tough f***ing guy. Now here's Chael Sonnen on eight days notice and he's a f***ing 185 pounder, coming in with no camp whatsoever. And you heard what they said: he's a southpaw. Vitor Belfort's a f***ing southpaw. And hits f***ing harder, and is faster and more explosive. So you're gonna f***ing say no to him on eight days notice but fight [Vitor]. It's so stupid that it gets me angry."
He could just be in promotion mode to promote the fight.
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As an aside, the Jones family might have one badass weekend if everything goes right. Jones fights Saturday in Canada then he can fly down to Baltimore and watch both of his brothers start in the primetime game on NBC. Not a bad family tree if you ask me.
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The Jones family has some sick genetics.
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Have a bad feeling Belfort is going to get injured before saturday.
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Who cares about the Jones family and their traits.
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They should have a 6-man tag match, Jones and his bros vs Dana, Sonnen, Belfort.
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I'm really excited about this card. I couldn't care less about Matt Hamill, but every other fight should be good. Jon Jones against Belfort isn't intriguing because Vitor has an ice cube's chance in hell, it's more like the anatomy of an execution. I want to see how Jones finishes him.
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Rashad has been helping Vitor train but I still see a 2nd Round KO coming.
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Surprised they didn't stop the fight there.....even though those punches weren't to hard.
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