DISCUSSION - Was Chris Jericho really "put over" the proper way and is CM Punk following suit?

**Heyman** · 10-13-2012, 04:16 PM

DISCUSSION - Was Chris Jericho really "put over" the proper way and is CM Punk following suit?

Let's face facts people. As great a career as Chris Jericho had, he was never the legend that he could have been....and should have been. Think back to 2000 onwards. Most times when he lost, he lost clean......whether it was to the likes of Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, Triple H, Edge, The Rock, John Cena, Batista, Goldberg, etc.

When he defeated a legit "top guy" however (I.e. The Rock, John Cena, Dave Batista, etc.), it was made to look like a flukey win at best. And yes - although he was heel for most his main event victories, you just never got the impression that he was on that level as a result.

Here's how you put someone over the correct way:
-Triple H defeating Mick Foley 3 times CLEANLY
-Batista defeating Triple H 3 times CLEANLY
-John Cena defeating Triple H CLEANLY

After defeating a top main-eventer legitimately cleanly (regardless of who is playing the face or the heel), the guy going over needs to be the main-eventer for PPV's. Period. He shouldn't be playing second fiddle.....otherwise the whole point of him going over gets wasted (think: Chris Benoit 2004).

This now leads me back to CM Punk.

CONCLUSION......and the point I'm trying to make.

If the WWE are truly serious about having CM Punk be the heir apparent to John Cena, then they need to have him start CLEANLY and CONVINCINGLY defeating wrestlers. Remember when Mark Henry defeated Kane, Big Show, Sheamus, and Randy Orton in CLEAN succession?

THAT is how you get a guy over.

Back in 2004-2005 when the WWE were getting Batista over, he was CLEANLY defeating guys like Benoit, Triple H, and Randy Orton.

If there is one thing you can take away from this thread, it's this:

Fluke victories ultimately do nothing for a wrestler in terms of solidfying his stature. Clean victories, followed by playing second fiddle in storylines, also achieves nothing.

Clean victories over top guys (Cena, Undertaker, Triple H.........possibly Big Show) + being in the most important storyline and main-eventing PPV's = is what leads to long term credibility and potential legacy.

If the WWE aren't careful with CM Punk, he'll basically be like Chris Jericho at best.

10-13-2012, 04:16 PM	#1
Heyman Father of Hinduship Posts: 21,083	DISCUSSION - Was Chris Jericho really "put over" the proper way and is CM Punk following suit? DISCUSSION - Was Chris Jericho really "put over" the proper way and is CM Punk following suit? Let's face facts people. As great a career as Chris Jericho had, he was never the legend that he could have been....and should have been. Think back to 2000 onwards. Most times when he lost, he lost clean......whether it was to the likes of Chris Benoit, Kurt Angle, Triple H, Edge, The Rock, John Cena, Batista, Goldberg, etc. When he defeated a legit "top guy" however (I.e. The Rock, John Cena, Dave Batista, etc.), it was made to look like a flukey win at best. And yes - although he was heel for most his main event victories, you just never got the impression that he was on that level as a result. Here's how you put someone over the correct way: -Triple H defeating Mick Foley 3 times CLEANLY -Batista defeating Triple H 3 times CLEANLY -John Cena defeating Triple H CLEANLY After defeating a top main-eventer legitimately cleanly (regardless of who is playing the face or the heel), the guy going over needs to be the main-eventer for PPV's. Period. He shouldn't be playing second fiddle.....otherwise the whole point of him going over gets wasted (think: Chris Benoit 2004). This now leads me back to CM Punk. CONCLUSION......and the point I'm trying to make. If the WWE are truly serious about having CM Punk be the heir apparent to John Cena, then they need to have him start CLEANLY and CONVINCINGLY defeating wrestlers. Remember when Mark Henry defeated Kane, Big Show, Sheamus, and Randy Orton in CLEAN succession? THAT is how you get a guy over. Back in 2004-2005 when the WWE were getting Batista over, he was CLEANLY defeating guys like Benoit, Triple H, and Randy Orton. If there is one thing you can take away from this thread, it's this: Fluke victories ultimately do nothing for a wrestler in terms of solidfying his stature. Clean victories, followed by playing second fiddle in storylines, also achieves nothing. Clean victories over top guys (Cena, Undertaker, Triple H.........possibly Big Show) + being in the most important storyline and main-eventing PPV's = is what leads to long term credibility and potential legacy. If the WWE aren't careful with CM Punk, he'll basically be like Chris Jericho at best.