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Old 03-05-2013, 01:57 AM   #1
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Could he actually do it? *RAW SPOILER*

Could CM Punk actually be the one to end Undertaker's streak? I, like many others don't believe it should ever end, but this is the first year I've actually felt like it could happen. With Punks historic title run, a win over Taker could push him to a place very few have been able to reach and could potentially cement him as one of the all time greats when his career is over, and I don't know if Vince or Taker himself would be against giving him 'the rub'.

As a fan, I hope Taker is able to bring it as I think the two of the could pull of an awesome match. Thoughts? Discuss



*DISCLAIMER* Gertner, I know you dislike CM Punk, because he's a vanilla midget and worst drawing champion of yada yada yada and all the rest. So now we've got that out of the way, can we please be civil. Cheers.






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Old 03-05-2013, 02:02 AM   #2
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Punk ending Taker's streak would bankrupt the company. He's done enough damage drawing 2.7 ratings as World Champion. The people who would be happy are his fat pig fans who stream PPV's instead of paying for them so they can spend more money on ice cream and chicken.
Catering to FBDV is a horrible business move. Heck, ROH can't even do a proper iPPV
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:03 AM   #3
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Ok, now Gertner has officially had his say, what does everyone else think?
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:03 AM   #4
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They should have Ryback do it. You know, someone who doesn't look like a homeless crackhead and can actually wrestle Taker and make it look believable.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:04 AM   #5
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BTW, pretty sad that they had to book Punk in a 4-way this week because 1 wrestler wasn't enough to carry him through an entertaining match.
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I don't know if Vince or Taker himself would be against giving him 'the rub'.
Conversely, I could see them being all for it, but CM Punk being the one to say that the streak should be kept intact.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:05 AM   #7
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Heath Slater really showed this week that it's now time for the 3MB to break through the glass ceiling and defeat Taker.
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No, I don't think he will and he shouldn't. Let Taker retire with the streak.
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Conversely, I could see them being all for it, but CM Punk being the one to say that the streak should be kept intact.
That is also a very good point.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:07 AM   #10
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No, I don't think he will and he shouldn't. Let Taker retire with the streak.
This isn't about whether he should or shouldn't. Although I do agree that he should remain undefeated now. The question is COULD he?
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:09 AM   #11
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Punk couldn't because despite having honour, integrity and respect, he does not possess the fighting spirit necessary.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:10 AM   #12
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It's gonna be amazing watching CM Punk lose 3 straight PPV matches. Guy should be a JTTS tagging with Ryder against Clay and Sweet T in a losing effort.
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This isn't about whether he should or shouldn't. Although I do agree that he should remain undefeated now. The question is COULD he?
It's a possibility. One I don't want to see.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:20 AM   #14
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Punk shouldn't win because Graveler is a black.
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The question is COULD he?
Anything COULD happen.

3MB could team-up and injure Punk so Heath Slater takes his place, and then Heath beats Undertaker at Wrestlemania and Gertner has heart attack, but dies a happy man.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:26 AM   #16
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Slater hit Taker with the Smash Hit despite Mahal and Drew turning on Heath midway through the match. Bam, monster heel created.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:37 AM   #17
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Heath Slater is fucking incredible.

Also, I could see CM Punk doing it and rubbing it in everyone's faces. If The Undertaker were feeling this is his last match, I could see him giving Punk that honour (he wouldn't be working with him if he didn't think he was good enough). I personally see The Undertaker going over, but in a hell of a match that continues to reluctantly force respect upon Punk, even though he hates the fans.
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Old 03-05-2013, 02:45 AM   #18
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I think he could.
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I'd love to see the streak end just for the novelty of it, but it never will, and I certainly don't think it'll be CM Punk that does it.

However, for the added "threat factor" of CM Punk, since nothing could really be bigger than Triple H in Hell in a Cell with Shawn Michaels as a referee, I really hope the Shield get involved in this match somehow, so that it really looks once-and-for-all that The Undertaker has met his match.
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Old 03-05-2013, 05:33 AM   #20
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He could, but I'm not really seeing things the way you are. Honestly the whole fatal 4 way thing sorta killed the momentum that the whole thing could have had. Now it just seems forced you know? Best thing they could have done would have been for Punk to complain about his loss to Cena only to have the GONG hit and Taker be the one to challenge Punk not the other way around. But meh, I digress.

I also totally agree that the streak should stay intact and that Punk would probably be the first person in WWE to agree with that.
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I saw Goldberg's streak end..I'm gonna see taker's streak end...or not
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I agree with Wishbone. Kind of a shitty way to start what should be an epic build up.
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The streak shouldn't and won't end. I'm just concerned after 2 matches with HBK and 2 with HHH, this match can't really be in the same league
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I don't think it should ever end, don't think it makes any sense to really, but if it were to end I think it would have to be someone younger, Punks said himself he doesn't think he'll be around all that much longer and if you're giving someone the rub of ending the streak it has to be somebody who can build on it for the long term, somebody with another decade or so left.

That man's Bo Dallas
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I see zero chance this is Taker's last match. Not at WM 29. I think he'll stick it out for one more year to retire at WrestleMania 30. Hopefully we'd finally get Taker/Cena next year.
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Punk should go train for a month with the greatest rassler ever, Bret Hart, he'll win for sure.
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There's really no reason for Punk to end it. He already has the longest title reign of the modern era. Plus, Punk has been pretty forthcoming that he's going to retire within the next 5 years. IF the streak ever ends, it needs to be someone who can actually benefit from it, and who won't drop the ball with it either.
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There's really no reason for Punk to end it. He already has the longest title reign of the modern era. Plus, Punk has been pretty forthcoming that he's going to retire within the next 5 years. IF the streak ever ends, it needs to be someone who can actually benefit from it, and who won't drop the ball with it either.
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love Punk, but no one should end the streak.....
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Triple H had a better shot at ending it last year than Punk does. And Triple H had virtually no shot. So no...

Cena next year on the other hand...
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He could, but I'm not really seeing things the way you are. Honestly the whole fatal 4 way thing sorta killed the momentum that the whole thing could have had.
Yeah. It did give it a crazy generic feel.
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I'd love to see the streak end just for the novelty of it, but it never will, and I certainly don't think it'll be CM Punk that does it.
This is why I think the streak HAS to end. Taker's always gonna have his legacy and the legacy of the streak regardless. Even if it ends at 21-0, that stretch will be a huge legacy he'll carry with him forever. It isn't really that big of a deal for it to never end in the long run.

The moment of someone beating The Undertaker at WrestleMania though would automatically be one of the most monumental moments in the history of pro wrestling. To just forgo that instant, easy HUGE event would be insane.
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Which is also why I'm well over "The streak should be used to put someone over". At this point, it is just about a "WrestleMania moment". Maybe THE WrestleMania moment. Let a guy like Cena have it. He may never be looked at as the same level as Austin or Rock but he'll have a feat in his career that pretty much dwarfs any single moment in their career.
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Hall of Famers HBK & Edge couldn't do it, HHH couldn't do it x3, 16 TIME world champ Ric Flair couldn't do it, big steroid monster huge guy Batista couldn't do it, what sense would it make to give it to some scrawny indy guy nobody cares about?
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. As a huge CM Punk fan I would love to say yes but the damage it would cause WWE would outweigh the positive mainly because Punk has already stated he is retiring/leaving in the next couple years.

To be honest, last time Punk/Taker feuded in 2010 (i think) I wasn't that impressed.....but that wasn't Mania..It was a throwaway Hell In A Cell and like 1 actually decent match.

I assume both men will bring it and it will be considered a good match but I cannot see it reaching heights that HBK and HHH did.


Taker wins and takes another year off......
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He should lose the streak so people will stop hounding him to do WrestleMania every year everywhere he goes.

It might as well be the Best in The World who ends the streak.
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Exactly, so Ryback should end the streak.
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I'm on the fence, because the kick start to the whole thing is garbage, would've been easy just to have Punk start it on the mic without the 3 other guys in a mediocre match. As for the streak, I think if he is coming back next year it stays intact. However, that's what the outcome of THIS match depends on and we can't know if he's coming back so UT probably takes it but I expect a good match probably somewhere between the last 2 UT-HHH matches.
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The question is COULD he?
Could one man beat another man in a fake sport?

Absolutely.

The reality is, he's probably not going to, just like the last few guys people thought would break the streak.

The bigger reality is it'd be damn foolish for the streak to end in the current hole WWE's in in terms of viewers. Not that they'd never do that for someone they like as much as Punk, but it doesn't mean it wouldn't be a bad idea. End the streak to literally the smallest audience in decades.

Now, I know Wrestlemania is going to be huge, and probably exceed prior mania's. But that will happen regardless of whether Punk wins the title, breaks the streak, our outpops DX. The next week, however, it's back to business as usual, and we're back to normal viewers and bragging about that streak-ending will seem awful....Small.

(This also applies to everyone else in the company)
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Could CM Punk actually be the one to end Undertaker's streak? I, like many others don't believe it should ever end, but this is the first year I've actually felt like it could happen. With Punks historic title run, a win over Taker could push him to a place very few have been able to reach and could potentially cement him as one of the all time greats when his career is over, and I don't know if Vince or Taker himself would be against giving him 'the rub'.

As a fan, I hope Taker is able to bring it as I think the two of the could pull of an awesome match. Thoughts? Discuss
I think it depends on the build, but I can definitely see myself watching WM and having my belief suspended, because Punk is THAT good in the ring.

I remain convinced that no one should end the streak. Ever. It's a rub that no one deserves and it entirely too risky to give someone for a number of reasons. But if there are two guys that it would make sense, Cena is #1 and Punk is #2. They're both going to be around for a long time and will be at the top of the card, and beating Taker suddenly vaults them among the all-time greats, next to the likes of Austin, Hogan, Michaels, Hitman, etc.

On a side note, Punk defeating Taker would NOT bankrupt the company. that's ridiculous and hyperbolic. While I can agree with some things Gertner says (particularly that Punk doesn't have much mainstream appeal, which is ABSOLUTELY true), to suggest that Punk is trash is ridiculous. Punk reminds me a lot of Shawn Michaels in 1996 - he's the top guy at a time when wrestling wasn't the "in" thing that it once was, and Punk was tearing the house down every night to ensure the house shows drew and to keep the die hards in the seats. Will Punk ever have mainstream appeal? Probably not, because the guys that do (Hogan, Austin, Cena, and now The Rock) have storylines that go outside the scope of wrestling or simply are larger than life cartoon characters. Punk will never be either of these things. But that doesn't preclude the fact that he's laying the foundation to be this generation's HBK - the best in-ring performer of this generation. If he can stay healthy, he's got a shot to be the closest thing to HBK in terms of in-ring prowess and productivity that we've seen since HBK himself.

Lastly, depending on how productive they think Punk can be in his career moving forward, having him end the streak could be acceptable. He is the only consistent top draw they have other than Cena (I think Orton has worn off a bit, and Sheamus and Del Rio have yet to arrive on the top tier as far as drawing fans out), and establishing him this way as a true #1 guy would be risky, but would certainly give them a stage on which to place the guy.

The Streak should NEVER end. But if it does, it's Punk or Cena. End of story. For that reason alone, I'll be very conflicted watching WM, because I would be excited for either outcome (although we all know Taker will win).
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